It clearly is a stain on him, but if the question is whether this will turn conservatives against the man, then that was never going to happen.So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
ding ding ding.It clearly is a stain on him, but if the question is whether this will turn conservatives against the man, then that was never going to happen.
Republicans are galvanized every time they tune into Fox News. It takes very little effort to achieve that and the Democrats might as well throw in the towel if the concern is whether an action that they take will be spun negatively against them by right wing media to galvanize their base. Because the answer will be yes. Every time.
His supporters are always galvanized anyway. And even if there's no consequences it'll always bother him that it happened to him. Who knows what this will drive him to do.So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
Not happening because the sooner this is in the Senate, the sooner Mitch and his Trump loyalists can push through a not guilty verdict.Couldn't happen to a more deserving president.
Edit: I believe that debate will last for at least 6 hours for the articles, while the GOP will throw a lot of procedural BS to delay the vote. So just strap in everybody. Gonna be a long day.
I think it's about Schiff abusing his power or whateverMotion to table means to delay or postpone, right? What do they want to delay right now?
So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
All I've been hearing is he won't be allowing any. So how is that decided?McConnell isn't king of the senate. He doesn't get to say whether or not witnesses are allowed to be called.
At least. Republicans will try to delay it as much as they can.
This is what i'm thinking. Whats the point if it has zero consequences?So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
That's certainly my opinion as well, but you will find we are in the minority. Most believe this will somehow change minds or at least be a rallying cry of the Democrats, but in reality, the best outcome is that it rallys both sides. The more likely reality is that is rallys the Republicans more than the Democrats and it comes back to bite them in the ass next year.So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
The hope is that this will seriously hinder his chances of reelection. And that democrats can say they did the right thing even though the senate would not.What does this mean? What impact will this have other than a stain on his legacy?
This is what i'm thinking. Whats the point if it has zero consequences?
The hope is that this will seriously hinder his chances of reelection. And that democrats can say they did the right thing even though the senate will not.
So what? He's still getting his ass impeached. He'll hate this for the remainder of his life and it'll be a black mark on his shitty administration
This.Folks: It was either impeach him for let him get away with it. The "point" is to charge him with wrongdoing.
To say "fuck you".
Dems can say they tried and blame the Republicans to let him get away with it.This is what i'm thinking. Whats the point if it has zero consequences?
Bingo. The president did something illegal. Should the house just sit by and do nothing? No. They're doing their jobs.
All I've been hearing is he won't be allowing any. So how is that decided?
To publicly show his crimes, appease the liberal base, place a historic black mark on his legacy along with a big mark for election, and officially tie defending senators to a historically unpopular president .
It's also makes it easier to mock Trump supporters, because the clear and cut corruption behind the reason he's being impeached, is a very good mark against them. A lot of is indeed to do with principal. A nice principal fuck you.Dems can say they tried and blame the Republicans to let him go away with it.
If the Democrats don't do anything it would show that they don't care or are complicit with what's happening.
Also it could make more difficult for Trump to try to do it again in the next elections.
Folks: It was either impeach him for let him get away with it. The "point" is to charge him with wrongdoing.
Here's a link to watch it live, can you add it to the OP please?
Ask yourself this again in a year's time. You will have your answer.
It's been shown time and again that Trump's base will be the same size, galvanized or not.It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.
This is what i'm thinking. Whats the point if it has zero consequences?
It's certainly nauseating.You know what is cooler than meaningless political posturing? Nihilism, bay-bee!
Indeed. In fact, why even show up to their job? It's not like Trump and the GOP will ever sign what policy they draft, so ultimately nothing is done and therefore the attempt isn't even worth it, right? Because only obvious and tangible outcomes are worth pursuing and not optics, right?If you subscribe to this line of thought then Dems should just not bother investigating anything or doing anything of worth until he leaves office.
So basically impeachment means fuck all with zero consequences. That's what I'm gathering from this thread.
It won't be a "stain" on him, this will literally have the opposite effect on his supporters. This is going to galvanize them.