Yes, America has a history with racism. However, Trump sticks out as a relatively sore thumb in a modern America in spite of him being the embodiment of everything wrong with it.If you mean that not every president would do what Trump did in the aftermath of George Floyd's killing, I think we can agree, and it should go without saying. Though given the basic principles of federalism, no president could have forced Minneapolis to arrest a police officer for a state crime.
If you mean that no president in the history of presidents would have handled the situation as poorly as Trump did, I would remind you that for nearly a hundred years, US presidents ran a country where black people could be treated as property (and some presidents did just that), and for a hundred years after that black people were lynched by white communities as a matter of course. I can only imagine what Andrew "Trail of Tears" Jackson would have done in a situation like this.
Biden in particular addressed this earlier today. Making sure Trump doesn't get reelected most likely won't be treated as a band aid solution to racism. These four years were unforgettable. Trump not getting re-elected won't be a cure all for racism either. Making sure he's out of office is only one step of the process.None of this changes how terrible Trump is as a president and a leader, especially in the context of our times. Joe Biden would be a huge improvement. Trump's recent tweets are abhorrent. But they are themselves echoes of history. By overstating Trump's role in systemic racism that existed well before him and will likely continue after him, I worry that it erases how deep the scar of "the original sin of our nation" runs, and how much work it will take to address.
It's console wars, but politicsPolitical apathy tends to breed a lack of broader understanding.
Or it's just childish, pathetic spite borne out of the fact that someone's favorite candidate didn't get the nomination.
Joe Biden is nowhere near as bad as Trump. I don't know what rational person is expressing this thought. That doesn't mean he's ideal either though. People are allowed to voice their dissatisfaction with the Dems candidate.
I think, the way I've come to view this situation over the last couple of months especially is this:Why do I post in these political threads 🧵 not to get banned for having a different opinion.....
to me I do not think he is as bad as Trump but the caviate I Have with him is I feel he much like trump is just going to be a puppet to the Democratic Party and we will see no real change come from him.... I mean come on the guy said " if you are black and don't vote for me you are not really black " or something to that degree.
Why do I post in these political threads 🧵 not to get banned for having a different opinion.....
to me I do not think he is as bad as Trump but the caviate I Have with him is I feel he much like trump is just going to be a puppet to the Democratic Party and we will see no real change come from him.... I mean come on the guy said " if you are black and don't vote for me you are not really black " or something to that degree.
Why do I post in these political threads 🧵 not to get banned for having a different opinion.....
to me I do not think he is as bad as Trump but the caviate I Have with him is I feel he much like trump is just going to be a puppet to the Democratic Party and we will see no real change come from him.... I mean come on the guy said " if you are black and don't vote for me you are not really black " or something to that degree.
WTF are you talking about? I never endorsed Trump at all or said Biden is as bad as Trump.
I was hoping my phrasing was clear because I was drawing distinction between two different groups:
1-People who are planning to vote against Trump
2-People who say Trump and Biden are the same
while pointing out something both groups still imply in their own phrasing:
1 and 2 -Trump hasn't hurt white people
There is a strong disconnect in how certain people like yourself or the other people who share a belief that Trump's only impact is on minorities.
After 100k deaths it's a very clear that Trump is a threat to all of America in general.
This.The frustration and disappointment with Biden being the democratic candidate is not invalidated by the horrible void that is Trump.
Fuck this metaphor. All it does is sensitize the core issue. I agree with your end point, but people who were desperate for change pretty much got the response of "well it's not gonna be as bad with this guy" compared to drastic systemic change they were counting on from better candidates. Stop letting Biden coast on "well he's not Trump".Joe Biden is nowhere near as bad as Trump. I don't know what rational person is expressing this thought. That doesn't mean he's ideal either though. People are allowed to voice their dissatisfaction with the Dems candidate.
Biden is like getting punched in the gut by a NARP while Trump is like getting kicked in the nuts by an MMA fighter on PCP.
They both suck but I don't know who in their right mind is picking Trump.
He's also a bit of a creep whose mind is slowly turning to mush. Basically, hope he hires a good administration and hope that the Dems win some senate seats but he sure isn't garnering enthusiasm for voters.
So, I wouldn't blame anyone for giving up hope.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America was just fine with nominating, and then electing, someone like Trump in the first place. Obviously I don't really mean it was just "fine" with it, and I also know that it's hardly news. But it happened all the same.
But I say all that because I'm reminded of a scene from a movie called A Bronx Tale, in which Chazz Palminteri's character and his crew ask a rowdy and unwelcomed biker gang to leave their bar. They were asked nicely, and they refused to leave.
So now, Chazz locks the exit door and says they can't leave. They had their chance, and now they can't leave.
Similarly, America had a chance to escape Trump, and now it can't.
On the other hand, America had a chance to escape "moderates" like Obama and Pelosi and Biden, and now it can't.
Moderates, as we know, are just Republican-lite, looking at it objectively.
It is widely known that America's so-called left is still centrist at best or even right of center when compared to actual leftism globally.
The fact remains that now you just pick your poison. You are left with only the choice of what poison you pick.
So the real choice you have is, do you decide to meet your demise head-on at the hands of a wolf in dictatorship clothing, or do you prolong your suffering cowardly under a wolf in sheep's clothing?
I'd rather just roll the dice and see what goes down. Let's see how many of them we can take down before they take us down. Let's see how unscathed they come out of it, since they want to keep rattling the cage. As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
Why do I post in these political threads 🧵 not to get banned for having a different opinion.....
to me I do not think he is as bad as Trump but the caviate I Have with him is I feel he much like trump is just going to be a puppet to the Democratic Party and we will see no real change come from him.... I mean come on the guy said " if you are black and don't vote for me you are not really black " or something to that degree.
As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America was just fine with nominating, and then electing, someone like Trump in the first place. Obviously I don't really mean it was just "fine" with it, and I also know that it's hardly news. But it happened all the same.
But I say all that because I'm reminded of a scene from a movie called A Bronx Tale, in which Chazz Palminteri's character and his crew ask a rowdy and unwelcomed biker gang to leave their bar. They were asked nicely, and they refused to leave.
So now, Chazz locks the exit door and says they can't leave. They had their chance, and now they can't leave.
Similarly, America had a chance to escape Trump, and now it can't.
On the other hand, America had a chance to escape "moderates" like Obama and Pelosi and Biden, and now it can't.
Moderates, as we know, are just Republican-lite, looking at it objectively.
It is widely known that America's so-called left is still centrist at best or even right of center when compared to actual leftism globally.
The fact remains that now you just pick your poison. You are left with only the choice of what poison you pick.
So the real choice you have is, do you decide to meet your demise head-on at the hands of a wolf in dictatorship clothing, or do you prolong your suffering cowardly under a wolf in sheep's clothing?
I'd rather just roll the dice and see what goes down. Let's see how many of them we can take down before they take us down. Let's see how unscathed they come out of it, since they want to keep rattling the cage. As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
There definitely were. We even had people here saying Trump is to the left of Biden.I don't think anyone equated them in that way. But they are both old white dudes and on that you can bet that they will both be out of touch with a large portion of Americans.
Biden ain't gonna move the needle, but he might at least get it closer to 4 years ago and I guess a net 0 is better than net negative. He's also a bit of a creep whose mind is slowly turning to mush. Basically, hope he hires a good administration and hope that the Dems win some senate seats but he sure isn't garnering enthusiasm for voters.
So, I wouldn't blame anyone for giving up hope.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America was just fine with nominating, and then electing, someone like Trump in the first place. Obviously I don't really mean it was just "fine" with it, and I also know that it's hardly news. But it happened all the same.
But I say all that because I'm reminded of a scene from a movie called A Bronx Tale, in which Chazz Palminteri's character and his crew ask a rowdy and unwelcomed biker gang to leave their bar. They were asked nicely, and they refused to leave.
So now, Chazz locks the exit door and says they can't leave. They had their chance, and now they can't leave.
Similarly, America had a chance to escape Trump, and now it can't.
On the other hand, America had a chance to escape "moderates" like Obama and Pelosi and Biden, and now it can't.
Moderates, as we know, are just Republican-lite, looking at it objectively.
It is widely known that America's so-called left is still centrist at best or even right of center when compared to actual leftism globally.
The fact remains that now you just pick your poison. You are left with only the choice of what poison you pick.
So the real choice you have is, do you decide to meet your demise head-on at the hands of a wolf in dictatorship clothing, or do you prolong your suffering cowardly under a wolf in sheep's clothing?
I'd rather just roll the dice and see what goes down. Let's see how many of them we can take down before they take us down. Let's see how unscathed they come out of it, since they want to keep rattling the cage. As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
I'm sorry, going to have to stop you right here. Did Joe Biden do a 180 and suddenly decide to support M4A while I wasn't looking? Please cite a source that shows Biden supports healthcare for everyone.Jesus. This is a completely useless way to look at the world.
Centrist that wants to ensure health care is accessible for everyone,
Truth.Is so sad that the state of politics in the anUS has gone so low that people doesnt need to earn your vote and instead just need to be barely above the absolute worst.
Is this satire?I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America was just fine with nominating, and then electing, someone like Trump in the first place. Obviously I don't really mean it was just "fine" with it, and I also know that it's hardly news. But it happened all the same.
But I say all that because I'm reminded of a scene from a movie called A Bronx Tale, in which Chazz Palminteri's character and his crew ask a rowdy and unwelcomed biker gang to leave their bar. They were asked nicely, and they refused to leave.
So now, Chazz locks the exit door and says they can't leave. They had their chance, and now they can't leave.
Similarly, America had a chance to escape Trump, and now it can't.
On the other hand, America had a chance to escape "moderates" like Obama and Pelosi and Biden, and now it can't.
Moderates, as we know, are just Republican-lite, looking at it objectively.
It is widely known that America's so-called left is still centrist at best or even right of center when compared to actual leftism globally.
The fact remains that now you just pick your poison. You are left with only the choice of what poison you pick.
So the real choice you have is, do you decide to meet your demise head-on at the hands of a wolf in dictatorship clothing, or do you prolong your suffering cowardly under a wolf in sheep's clothing?
I'd rather just roll the dice and see what goes down. Let's see how many of them we can take down before they take us down. Let's see how unscathed they come out of it, since they want to keep rattling the cage. As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
I'm sorry, going to have to stop you right here. Did Joe Biden do a 180 and suddenly decide to support M4A while I wasn't looking? Please cite a source that shows Biden supports healthcare for everyone.
That would be Elon Musk, who called Robert Reich "a boring idiot."
It would also leave 28 million americans without health insurance, among other problems.Counter to Bernie's surrogates messaging, Biden's proposed public option, decreased Medicare age, and increased Medicaid accessibility will make health insurance accessible to all Americans that want it and free to those who can't afford it. That's what accessible means.
Plus, unlike M4A it has a chance in hell of passing.
Jesus. This is a completely useless way to look at the world.
Centrist that wants to ensure health care is accessible for everyone, fight climate change, reduce income & wealth inequality, unwind 4 years of rampant corruption, restore the government's ability to protect people from disasters like the pandemic, protect the civil liberties of marginalized Americans, secure elections and the rule of law.
I'll pick that poison than you very much.
This defeatist swan song of idealists on the left was borderline sympathetic through the 90s when both parties roughly represented two flavors of milquetoast mediocrity, but the remarkable harm that republicans now pose to American (and worldwide) human life are so profound that takes like this come across as vain and petulant. Totally ignoring the human stakes of the election for the sake of some sophomoric fantasy about an idealized form of government that will never be attained and would likely fail even if it was.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America was just fine with nominating, and then electing, someone like Trump in the first place. Obviously I don't really mean it was just "fine" with it, and I also know that it's hardly news. But it happened all the same.
But I say all that because I'm reminded of a scene from a movie called A Bronx Tale, in which Chazz Palminteri's character and his crew ask a rowdy and unwelcomed biker gang to leave their bar. They were asked nicely, and they refused to leave.
So now, Chazz locks the exit door and says they can't leave. They had their chance, and now they can't leave.
Similarly, America had a chance to escape Trump, and now it can't.
On the other hand, America had a chance to escape "moderates" like Obama and Pelosi and Biden, and now it can't.
Moderates, as we know, are just Republican-lite, looking at it objectively.
It is widely known that America's so-called left is still centrist at best or even right of center when compared to actual leftism globally.
The fact remains that now you just pick your poison. You are left with only the choice of what poison you pick.
So the real choice you have is, do you decide to meet your demise head-on at the hands of a wolf in dictatorship clothing, or do you prolong your suffering cowardly under a wolf in sheep's clothing?
I'd rather just roll the dice and see what goes down. Let's see how many of them we can take down before they take us down. Let's see how unscathed they come out of it, since they want to keep rattling the cage. As the great Tank in the first Matrix movie said, "Exciting times ahead."
Biden is a great man and I am happy to support him. He's empathetic and listens to people. He doesn't always get things right, but he's not too proud to learn from his mistakes. He has a ton of experience and wisdom that will go a long way in fixing a torn America. His platform is progressive as hell, and is proposing far beyond anything Obama ever proposed. He will be a competent leader and appoint good, effective people to his cabinet.
I am proud to support Joe Biden.
I was thinking the same thing, it's too on the nose not to be some sort of trolling imo.
This is what private health insurance has given the USA. This is what will continue under a public option: