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It's only been a week and "core values" is already the most played out obnoxious shit in the FGC
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MKX was the best selling PS4 game for a long time, what are you on?
I would defend them if porn was still allowed
I legit dont get the purpose of that subreddit without porn, its just stale fgc shitposting
The core values thing was always stupid and people giving them shit about it are daft
also MK outsells Tekken and SF by a good clip, to the point where it likely outsold them both combined
also MK outsells Tekken and SF by a good clip, to the point where it likely outsold them both combined
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Welp, let me eat that crow then, i know when im defeated
Was no reason for me to be a smug ass about it anyway
Same, the community was great when it came to porn, and actually pretty nice when asking for help. Nowadays, it just a place to post their reactions of fgc drama, while circle-jerking each other.
MK isn't even 10% as prominent as Street Fighter in the west, and this is its biggest competitive market. NRS games never usually hit top 3 relevant competitive games in the FGC, if even top 5.
On a casual level sure, but casuals don't care about competitive scenes.
Edit: and LOL at thinking sales numbers matter regarding how competitive a game is.
Why do you think people regurgitating flavour of the hour memes are trying to make a point? Like others have said, this is every dumb meme every week. It's sadly what a lot of the internet is currently.
I'm trying my best, those numbers just get too hard for me once i go past triple digits
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You think that sales numbers translate directly to competitive viability? You need to do more research my friend.
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important; famous.
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In what way is MK not competitively viable, especially when it's had several of it's own official, televised tournaments with massive pot bonuses?
competitive
/kəmˈpɛtɪtɪv/
adjective
1.
relating to or characterized by competition.
"a competitive sport"
synonyms:ruthless, merciless, aggressive, fierce; More
I didn't say its not competitively viable, just less so than various other fighting games. SF and Tekken especially.
Edit: Excuse the double post.
No one realy goes r/kappa to talk about fighting games. Everyone there knows that it would be more productive to go to the discord channels instead. Porn was the soul of r/kappa and without it just became an unrecognizable shell of its old self, that everyone accepts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/asxlea/1/
Probably because it's basically people making fun of how EVO pulled the plug on the stream due to its sexual activies and such, making the point that the FGC wants to objectify women.
Sales Numbers don't mean anything about how competitively viable a game is. Super Smash Bros: Brawl sold more copies than Melee, and Brawl was a mess in balance worse than Melee. I don't think any NRS has been known for good balancing, much less competitive play. The only person I know in that scene is Sonicfox, and that's due to his wide range of games and his general obnoxious personality.
And yeah sales =/ competitive longevity/viability. Yeah we got plenty of fuckin uhhhhh Xenoverse tournaments right
You can flaunt sales numbers all you want but it's an undeniable fact that MK11's competitive longevity died the moment they announced Injustice 2, just like how Injustice died when MK11 was announced. Two years and yet the BEST SELLING PS4 GAME FOR A WHILE was some how, someway, floundered competitively while it's other titles it competed against still sees playtime
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You can flaunt sales numbers all you want but it's an undeniable fact that MK11's competitive longevity died the moment they announced Injustice 2, just like how Injustice died when MK11 was announced. Two years and yet the BEST SELLING PS4 GAME FOR A WHILE was some how, someway, floundered competitively while it's other titles it competed against still sees playtime
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Ok but I still don't understand your post about how MK isn't as relative as SF in the west?
Tons of fighting game communities in the FGC will meme the shit out of dumb controversies that pop up especially if it has a phrase.
Smash fans were memeing the shit out of "years of research" and "Mango is a dangerous drunk" when Salem a Smash player was accusing Melee players for not being true fans of Smash which also became a meme and is still used today while the others died off a little.
Online communities like to spout out alot of inside jokes and memes. Hell this community is still using that Expert copypasta despite it being close to a decade old and originated from a website.
Smash fans were memeing the shit out of "years of research" and "Mango is a dangerous drunk" when Salem a Smash player was accusing Melee players for not being true fans of Smash which also became a meme and is still used today while the others died off a little.
Online communities like to spout out alot of inside jokes and memes. Hell this community is still using that Expert copypasta despite it being close to a decade old and originated from a website.
I'll help you out here since you seem to be having trouble keeping up. Here is my post again:
If you're struggling to find the word "competitive," it's because the word isn't there.
Yeah, I am, and I would rather have Big Butt Sundays back, than just another thread of people reacting to twitter drama. Even the comfy Weasel Wednesday topics stopped altogether.
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Cause that's what WB/NRS want
They want a new game out every 2 years for maximum earning potential, their system works
MK and NRS games in general just don't have a competitive scene the size of other games, they are very insular as well. This is shown through tournament and viewership numbers quite clearly. You will have various top players from other games dabbling in NRS for a while, but the more important games always take priority in the end.
Can't forget 0.9. Memes will die off eventually. Replaced by different ones.
Did they ever unlock the original thread on this after "reviewing its contents" or did they just ban everyone and leave it closed
Anyway yeah, the meme is pretty well played out, though I thought there was some humor at the core of it.
The reason it blew up so much wasn't just because wizard said the doa incident violated EVO's core values, but because he said it violated the FGC's core values... which is clearly not true for a significant portion of the FGC.
Anyway yeah, the meme is pretty well played out, though I thought there was some humor at the core of it.
The reason it blew up so much wasn't just because wizard said the doa incident violated EVO's core values, but because he said it violated the FGC's core values... which is clearly not true for a significant portion of the FGC.
I, like you was referring to my own post, which i think you'll find had the word competitive no less than four times. Which makes it more impressive that you managed to totally miss every single time i wrote it.
Right. Your reply to my post was irrelevant because it was focusing on the competitive aspect, which my post had nothing to do with. That's why I replied again to help you out. You're welcome.
We are in a thread about the fgc, competitive fighting games are whats relevant, sales numbers are for npd.
It was corny from jump. I almost unsubscribed from Core A's channel when I saw him selling Core Values shirts. If I see you post that meme I automatically assume you be on r/kappa.
It's always fun watching the room instantly clear when Tekken matches start at a tournament.
My post was simply stating that MK is the most prominent fighting game in the west. Because of that, it's obviously part of the "FGC," regardless of how you might want to define it.
It's literaly the best selling fighting game series here. Which makes it the most prominent. Period. That is a factual statement that cannot be argued against.
There's a lot of folks who aren't exactly fans of EVO/Wiz. I consider CEO and Combo Breaker to be the "true" FGC tournies myself, and the best run ones. EVO often comes across as hypocritical, which is why this meme spread behind the usual r/kappa shitposters.
3D games tend to require more knowledge to get on a spectator level and tend to be less flashy. They're not as stream friendly.
3D games tend to require more knowledge to get on a spectator level and tend to be less flashy. They're not as stream friendly.
This is factually incorrect, since sales numbers don't indicate prominence within the FGC. Sales to casual fighting games players =/= sales to competitive players. You can argue its the most well known and thus prominent fighting game to the average person (very debatable still), but to the fgc, no.
You're arguing semantics here and it's exhausting. The "FGC" is not just the super niche group of highly competitive players who attend tournaments. Even if that's what you want it to be, or how it exists in your head.
Sales numbers indicate prominence. Period. End of discussion.
You're right, it's not. But it's also not everybody who buys a fighting game neither.
How is it not? That's like saying anyone that's casually played League of Legends counts as an eSports competitor.
the FGC isn't automatically anyone who decides to buy a fighting game either
or do you call Overwatch purchasers 'eSports competitors'
Right. Just everyone who buys a fighting game and/or talks about it online with other people, thus being part of the "community."
No, it's like saying anyone who casually plays League of Legends counts as part of the League of Legends community. Which is obviously true.
I'd call them members of the Overwatch community.