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James Franco accused of sexual exploitation or abuse by five women
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How about every single man here on this forum gets #metoo ed if we're operating on this level of guilt by association. This is fucking preposterous.
I think it was more of a joke on how every guy that speaks up to defend others has women pop up and show how they were part of the problem too.
Several people managed to say that poster might've jumped the gun without getting THIS defensive.
Wait he removed it without asking them if it was ok first?? If so, most definitely sexual assault.
I hear that.
No disagreement here.
Certainly. 110%.
Not just abuse, I believe this would be indecent exposure, which is sexual assault.
No lies detected.
There is no scale ranging from "not that bad - bad" when it comes to sexual abusers but there is most certainly a scale ranging from "bad - extremely bad". <-- This is an obvious truth.
I'm guessing your point is that if we do sort sexual offenders from bad to extremely bad, somehow that list will end up perceived as "not that bad - bad" ?
Hmmm. I can't say for certain it won't. So I can understand your concern.
My concern is that conservatives will cherrypick the least egregious example in the outrage bucket to make the "common man" think we've gone too far with political correctness. They'll say we're trying to make hitting on our coworkers is a crime (tons of people meet their spouses in the workplace).
Do you see my concern?
This is what confuses me about the people posting about how these Franco accusations have ruined The Disaster Artist for them. Like, the movie is already about celebrating a man who is, at best, overtly misogynistic.
One glaring difference is that witchcraft magic isn't real, while sexual misconduct is.
Quantum bro unless there are other allegations you've omitted please edit your post because otherwise erwhise it's misleading as fuck. My heart was about to sink.
Fuck sexual harrasers and all their ilk. Innocent people in jail? Might as well lock them up for life considering how jail normally works out.
What a perfect example of how complicated life can be. This kind of thing happens a lot when making policy. I think it's worth taking a moment to meditate on the meaning of the bolded above.
The same could be said of affirmative action in 1961. The amount of innocent white students who are damaged by it is a cost worth paying to change the current system where only 5% of black people attend college.
A lot of "good" policies will have a small amount of victims. It's unfortunate but I don't see it changing...
I don't want innocent people in jail. I also think over 300 thousand sexual assaults and rapes a year is grotesque.
When you think innocent people in jail your aren't thinking about all the innocent people who are hurry by a system that keeps guilty people out of prison. There is a middle ground somewhere. But I don't see that happening with the rates we currently have jail men for sexual abuse.
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White students not getting admitted to a particular school is not a comparable instance to an innocent man getting accused of sexual assault.
Of course Deepwater-danna, one is a thousand times worse than the other. Like comparing a real-size car to a hot wheels. For sure. Still, you understand the essential similarity?
Soy un profesor muy malo.
No the logic is not the same. White students who feel like they didn't get accepted to a school because of affirmative action are not victims, namely being they were not entitled to being admitted. Certainly not on any plane that is comparable to an innocent man convicted of sexual assault. This isn't an issue of difference of magnitude of consequences, it's a faulty comparison based on the premise.
You're basically saying the 20 white students who don't get into Harvard because of affirmative actions are victims because the purpose behind the policy is a net positive. Well, they aren't victims at all. They weren't entitled to those seats, so I'm not sure how that comparison rocks.
I get the overall point you are trying to make but affirmative action is not the analogy to use.
There's already five women who have come out accusing Franco. How many more do you want to get before you start believing women?
And sure, we don't know both sides' story, but Franco's could be that he was "just fooling around, not understanding or thinking he was doing anything wrong" which doesn't make any of his actions ok.
Removing plastic guards from private areas is more than creepy
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well i am notorious for picking terrible analogies, so that's par for the course. As long as you get the overall point I'm satisfied.
Sadly rehabilitation is not profitable so they'd rather the prisoners even when released come back later. I've known 3 girls who got sexually assaulted by vermin and this shit pisses me off to end. I really hope the women see justice and more reports happen no matter what, too many men get away with this shit.
The scale is missing "I like him" which automatically makes him free of charges
You gonna take my David Simon away there better be receipts.
Looks like David Simon is just saying don't shit on my show just because Franoc's in it.
For what it's worth, white women receive more benefits from affirmative action than any other group.
Sorry but the middle ground shouldn't be throwing innocent people in jail. That should never be an option. Believewomen is important as a movement in supporting women to speak out against abuse, but saying "innocent men who are damaged is a cost worth paying" is definitely not ok. Are you willing to be the one? Would you be OK if you were labeled as a sexual offender/abuser/predator for the greater good?
Obviously there is a culture of sexual abuse that is widespread in our society, it needs to be addressed, it needs to be challenged, it needs to be changed. But it needs to be done in a way that doesnt compromise basic rights. Civil liberties and human rights need to be protected aswell.
Edit: nm, didn't realize topic is old. Was responding because of recent developments: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/03/james-franco-lawsuit-los-angeles-acting-school