John McCain has died at age 81 (READ OP)
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Like any man, he had his virtues and his flaws but the things he endured are what the rest of us can only imagine. Despite all of that, nobody deserves cancer. Rest In Peace.
Congratulations, this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen between the old forum and the current one. If you can recognize you're being flippant then maybe edit out your flippant remark?
Congratulations, this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen between the old forum and the current one. If you can recognize you're being flippant then maybe edit out your flippant remark?
Is this a troll post? Because if I look at your post history you seem to be totes cool with a lot of those same things, just as long as they aren't coming from politicians (or maybe we're just yelling at clouds).
And when Obama passes folks who were victimizes by his bombings should be respected in their criticism
Sure, but that doesn't mean Obama doesn't deserve respect.
Ah dang I forgot that being polite was more important than anything else
Obama is also a much better man than McCain but that's neither here nor there.
That's your opinion though. To me and to many others he is a hero.
What's laughable is that you're so dismissive of other people's opinions.
The seminal moment in american politics to me was the crazy lady in red who said "Obama is an arab" and McCain rejected that. You can criticize him for implying that arabs can't be decent men but I believe he didn't mean that.
Too bad America sided with the crazy lady.
Too bad America sided with the crazy lady.
It's actually totally normal and human to be dismissive of other people's opinions.
Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. Link?
Yea people say bad stuff. I still have some respect for him because he was a POW that didn't want to be released until the others were. He kind of knew how to put others before him, which you aren't going to see AT ALL going forward with the Republican party. A lot of Dems respected him for coming into the isle. You aren't getting any of that with the new guard. I just don't have it in my heart to say, "i don't really care x or y died because they had different opinions than me." Well....I'm lying. I don't have that sympathy for Hitler nor would I for Trump.
Honestly, who doesn't have blood on their hands?
What on earth has my post in the Logan KSI thread got to do with anything? Reaching so sooo hard
"Decorum" is exactly why politicians on the left have no bite.
Reading through this thread it's sort of scary how much more effective and destructive Donald Trump could be if instead of a loudmouth, buffoonish jackass he were merely more civil, classy and "presidential". Seems like an incredibly low bar.
Nah man, it's just about respecting a man who did his best for his country.
The War on Terror had a 98 vote yes to 1 vote no. I mean it was the almost the entire Senate
"Who doesn't have blood on their hands" doesn't mean that those who do should have their history whitewashed when they die.
Rest In Peace. I've always respected John McCain, especially in recent years as conservatives have gone to a really dark place. John McCain was one of the only republicans to stand up to Trump in a meaningful way, and we could use more politicians like him. I hope whoever takes his place in the senate has half his courage.
Yes, I'm just taking issue with the idea that politicians or leaders don't deserve respect because they have blood on their hands.
He crashed a plane and shortly afterword americans paid his salary while he worked to make their lives shittier.
No reality doesn't exist in my head. I wish I had that power
I mean McCain did much more bad... by virtue of you know passing and supporting the Republican agenda
Did he? Because it seems like he actually voted in lock step nearly every time with a man who made fun of him for being a POW.
Well, no it doesn't. He did some bad shit and we can talk about it. However, people saying "rest in piss" and whatever are being super juvenile. Those same people probably are beloved to Obama, but ignore the drone strike talk.
He fought against almost everything good and decent to humanity. He was a spineless shill for hate, bigotry, fear, and war. You are lying to yourself.
Was being the deciding vote for the 1990 Civil Rights bill veto an example of him doing his best? A good rule of thumb is to not side with David Duke, and if you do, to not stand by your decision later.
ACA and Ukraine, you are right though, he did vote with trump on many occasions
He torpedoed the senate's god awful Obamacare repeal last year, and publicly repudiated Trump a number of times. That's more than I can say about almost any other republican in Congress. The difference between McCain and a worm like Cruz is striking.
We are, but you keep deflecting and being reductive about just how bad the shit McCain did was. The more exaggerated responses are justified.
He then supported neutering ACA in the tax bill.
He had no love or support of the act he just wanted it to die the proper way.
He is all for gutting the ACA, he just didn't like the process. It was a nice little moment but it'd have been nicer if he had an ounce of empathy to be a REAL ally to sick/poor people instead of a momentary ally for a fleeting moment out of sheer coincidence.
Good guy John McCain voting to arm Saudi Arabia as they continue to destroy Yemen:
http://observer.com/2017/06/democrats-trump-administration-arms-sale-saudi-arabia-yemen/
http://observer.com/2017/06/democrats-trump-administration-arms-sale-saudi-arabia-yemen/
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