I'd say well known is a bit of a stretch. Her biggest thing has been a throwaway mutant in a bad X-men movie
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Kevin Pereira's TheAttack banned from Twitch for Viewbotting
- Thread starter Iori Fuyusaka
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He probably doesn't care. She always was more popular, and it's not like she's an A-list actress now.
If I had hear of this before today I totally would have watched (might still) I loved AOTS and am in desperate need of a TV show style format to distill the biggest "nerd" news. It's gotten way too difficult to keep up with everything I'm interested anymore via forums and twitter. I wouldn't hesitate to sub if it was on youtube.
Wtf I used to watch AotS all the time back in the day, didn't even know this existed. But at least he didn't try and make up any excuses.
She played a pretty significant role on The Newsroom which was very popular. Also dated Aaron Rodgers for a while. Obvioulsy she's not a superstar or anything but well known.
Yeah she also has a new show coming and is gonna be in the new predator movie.
He could've at least gotten Tiffany Smith to do shout out on her Instagram for his show, jeez word of mouth is super important and he failed at it.
You can probably get an idea of how he regards her from this interview.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68vz90
I though Munn was legit good in the newsroom. As far as Kevin goes, it must be hard for a straight laced guy like him to make money simply by being a personality. I mean unless you are a gaming pro playing the hottest fotm game or you are some edgy meme lord the market is probably brutal. Or you live super cheap and do a 1 man operation.
Best content, in my opinion, The Attack channel produced were the late night drum sessions Kevin would do.
He was on a Kinda Funny podcast a while ago and he promoted The Attack several times, I tried to tune in the next time the show was supposed to be on and it just... wasn't on. Totally forgot about it after that. Definitely feels bad for whatever staff/employees he had, but Kevin should be fine; he's on a show on TruTV called Hack My Life.
That sucks, I used to really like Kevin on G4.
I checked out The Attack on Twitch a few times to see what he was up to, but it seemed like he was almost never actually on the show.
View bots is kind of a shitty thing to do, but you would think a warning (or something) would be issued before an outright ban. I mean, if they're going to ban people for doing that, they should at least take a look at the racist, sexist, toxic shit that people spew in chat.
Hope everything works out for him.
I checked out The Attack on Twitch a few times to see what he was up to, but it seemed like he was almost never actually on the show.
View bots is kind of a shitty thing to do, but you would think a warning (or something) would be issued before an outright ban. I mean, if they're going to ban people for doing that, they should at least take a look at the racist, sexist, toxic shit that people spew in chat.
Hope everything works out for him.
Events like major tournaments or games done quick don't need extra numbers since they're going to be #1 for whatever game they're streaming and usually get featured by twitch anyways. Viewbotting is more for the streamers who want more visibility but can't pull the several hundred viewers legitimately. It's pretty bad because it fucks over the streamers playing by the rules by pushing them further down the list and taking away viewers which takes away potential subs or donations.
Obvious to tell who viewbots anyways. Soon as they go live there's already the average number of viewers watching and they never talk. You'll never see a legit stream with like a thousand viewers and only a few of them ever saying anything.
So what is the negatives? Like why would you intentionally plague someone else with a viewbot? Because I talked to someone the other day on Twitch support who was helping me with some issues I was having and they told me that someone must have viewbotted their stream or something because their viewers spiked exponentially all of a sudden and it was doing so almost as soon as they logged on. They would spam the stream chat with all kinds of stupid stuff. He contacted Twitch and they couldn't do anything about it. They just told him to ignore them saying if it wasn't a bot they would go away. Well they didn't and he said the only thing he was able to do was change his Twitch name. That worked and they haven't been back.
Just wondering because I'm about to start to try to stream regularly and this bot stuff sounds like a nightmare.
I feel bad for Kevin and crew. This "Attack" idea with a whole production crew must have been such a black money hole it's insane. Still, I've been aware of the show and 'followed' on twitch for years, yet I never watched it. I guess partly because timezone issues, but also I didn't really like Alex (sorry).
People joke about this all the time but I don't think it really helps, the people who consistently get high view numbers on twitch have only one thing in common: they stream A LOT. Like 6-12 hours a day, 4-6 days a week. About 90%+ (95%?) are also young guys. If you only stream a few hours a week you have to have something else IRL that gets you twitch famous. Even people who are moderately famous IRL don't get massive twitch streaming numbers because of inconsistent stream times - for example Rampage Jackson is a successful MMA fighter and streams occasionally but his numbers are always in the low hundreds at best, because he only streams pubg (i think) and has no real set times.
He was a host initially but he stepped aside to let Alex run the show as he wanted to give him a chance.
A throwaway mutant on the cover of the movie? Also, Newsroom. The Predator, Ocean's 8, ...
The two aren't exactly the same; if someone's hardcore viewbotting, and you go into that channel that's got, say, 5000 viewers, but only a couple dozen are consistently chatting or chatting at all....you're naturally going to be suspect about that and bring up viewbotting within that chat.
yeah, this is the key to success. never mind the fact that almost all of the top twitch streams and most successful twitch streams in general are men
I would guess that bots mess with the metrics tied to advertising dollars
What in the hell?I wonder why no one wanted to watch this sho-
Oh.
Those under 100 streamers with friendly regulars still exist. Lots of them do. I sub to some.
Anyway, Attack of the Show failed because you can't do a show that's only on for an hour or whatever three times a week. You can't. Twitch is about hanging out for many hours in a row every day. That's sort of how it operates. You can only get a lot of eyeballs on something that's only on for a few hours a week if you have a ton of popularity and fame outside of twitch, which he doesn't
Don't get into twitch streaming as a business for money. It should be something you do for fun. The odds of making it big are slim as hell. Best you can realistically hope for with a consistent schedule is a solid recurring audience of 20 - 120 viewers, and even that takes work and dedication.
Also, the show was early in the day, guaranteeing that a ton of people could never watch it.
Hmm, doing it to someone else, Im not sure about. Maybe spamming the messaging can kill any decent conversation and real viewer decide to leave because of it, thus affecting them in the long run.
I guess I was talking about people who use bots to up their own count, which helps themselves directly.
I wonder why no one wanted to watch this sho-
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Context http://theattack.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Episode_159
Kevin Pereira just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Twitch culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on YouTube where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you viewbot on Twitch, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is Twitch viewers, after hearing about this, are not going to want to watch The Attack, nor will they watch any of Pereira's future content. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kevin Pereira has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kevin, publicly apologize and cancel The Attack or you can kiss your business goodbye.
View botting pushes the people who are legimatly trying to up their viewer numbers down the list it fucks noone cheaters over so that is why twitch perms the assholes who do it.
Yeah, earlier in the show's run, there was a time they were getting on the front page, and indeed, they were getting a lot more viewers then. But apparently even that wasn't enough to make them profitable (bad sign).
I can see why Twitch would treat this seriously as it's essentially stealing ad revenue. At the very least the show's perceived value would be inflated.
This. I found Kevin to be really witty and enjoyable to watch back on G4/AoTS. I tuned into the Twitch show a couple of times and he was never on, so I stopped watching.
Probably remembers the good old days..... (they really did have great chemistry on that show)
