As someone with family members who still have memories of Japanese occupation, fuck this guy and every other imperialist.
And his recent output aren't even that good anyway.
And his recent output aren't even that good anyway.
Koichi Sugiyama, composer of Dragon Quest, has passed away (SEE STAFF POST)
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when the guy is a war crime dening, ultra-nationalist, homophobic piece of shit, yeah i think its allowed
cry about it
Wasn't aware of any controversy surrounding him so just Googled. Jesus fucking Christ. And he only got a fine to boot?
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I have gay and left-winged japanese friends that are legitimately devastated and sad as fuck right now. He was that big and they don't give a fuck.
He also represents the best memories of the Famicom and the best years of the japanese bubble economic era (when Japan was literally the kings of the world) for so many people there.
It's shocking but oh well... for me Sugiyama was a piece of trash but he is a god there. It's definitely the end of an era basically.
most japanese people (i.e. casual fans) are probably unaware of the shit he did and just liked DQ from their childhood. its kinda expected, also japanese media is so god damn safe they won't say a negative word about him.
Depends on where you go. There are some places almost as celebratory as here, hope for music rights to free up and DQ to step into the 21st century
I've seen Yuzo Koshiro already offer complete condolences to this. Of course, Koshiro is another composer in the industry, so I can understand a level of respect from someone in a similar role in the industry.
He was one of my favourite composers before discovering his vile views (and active contribution to the denial of Japan's war crimes). It was a pretty hard blow for me to find out he was such a piece of shit. I'm glad he's gone, Dragon Quest (and the world tbh) are in a better place now.
One of those headlines that you read, experience a moment of shock, and are then filled with the most "Yeah. Okay." energy imaginable. I do not mourn or feel anything other than a resounding understanding and acceptance of the fact that he has died. It feels like being hit with a truck of absolutely nothing. Frankly it feels weird as fuck.
Just think if he'd done drugs he would have been finished.
Some also argued it was the draconian JASRAC, which Sugiyama is heavily involved in, that's responsible for Japanese music in general have been losing ground on the World's stage
Career done. It's still insane to me that "sex" scandals and drug offenses can fuck up your life and career several orders of magnitude worse than child pornography offenses in Japan. Absolutely insane.
1. We propably will see lot's of disappointment in the coming days concerning how his remembrance will be treated by fellow Japanese musicians and fans considering his status in the industry there.
2. Actraiser Renaissance's soundtrack almost sounded like Yuzo Koshiro was already sending S-E his application for the job of the new DQ composer.
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On point. Nothing Sugiyama said had any effect on his career, but if he had been caught smoking a joint he would have been erased from history.
I hope now Dragon quest feel free to add new music and spice the compositions. Even remixed will be welcomed. The last event when they showed the teaser for Dragon Quest XII was embarrassing, every announcement had the exact same DQ music, the same theme even!! I heard DQ main theme like 10 times.
Looking forward to see what new composers can do with such an iconic themes.
Looking forward to see what new composers can do with such an iconic themes.
I feel at peace. He lived a long life, composed some really good music, and used his success to do some really hurtful and nasty things. As someone who had family living through the Japanese occupation, I could never reconcile being an active DQ fan supporting the games and the music as long as he continued to be involved in the series. Over the decades I have had inconsistent views and often this made me very angry and irrational when talking about DQ. With his passing I am just happy to put all this behind.
I don't know if people in the industry upset by this are automatically one of "disappointment." One has to remember that he was an influence for many people in the industry, in a positive manner, to be more involved in video games. Of course in the sound/music space, there's going to be a sense of a huge loss. For us on the "outside" we can see the injustices and problematic personhood that was Sugiyama, but for people in the game space, in Japan, he was in a very strong sense, a pioneer. Those in that circle in Japan will be more attached to that legacy and not him laughing on live television about suicide.
In Japan, those upset are upset at the art of Sugiyama. On a forum like this, we're more noticing the person that was Sugiyama, and that's why you're getting a contrast. Condolences from those in the industry is one thing, but I think the real disappointment one should anticipate is how the media will overlook much of the problematic parts, even on stations where he said such things.
His music was good but it doesn't make up for his views. Age doesn't matter here either, he simply chose to be spiteful.
Sugiyama, Toriyama and Horii are fucking gods in Japan, it should not be a shock at all to people that his death will be a national mourning over there.
Laughed at the suicide rates of LGBT people in Japan.
Part of a war crime denial council:
The Sad Story of a Japanese Gaming Legend who Pretends War Crimes Never Happened
Here at Total Recall, we deal in history. Partly because I love my video games, but also because as a graduate in the field I love my history as well. So it saddens me deeply when I see people involved in video games trying to mess with real, actual history.
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He's an homophobe
Anti-LGBTQ
straight up laugh when their suicide rate (in the lgbtq+ community) was brought up
a war crime denier
Probably more i'm missing.
Indeed. After learning about his mischievous acts and views, it just felt wrong to play and enjoy Dragon Quest games. But as a fan, I can't simply ignore and boycott the games either. This is such a massive relief.
*reverb fart*
Finally got Thwack'd. Good.
Can't wait to see what the new composers end up making for 12.
Finally got Thwack'd. Good.
Can't wait to see what the new composers end up making for 12.
Koichi Sugiyama - Wikipedia
check "Political activities and beliefs" for more info.