Nah, that is not what she meant.
I am not going to condemn her, but come on.
My perspective is that this is very bad PR. Nothing more.
Kotaku: During a preview, Forspoken devs described their black protagonist in cringe-inducing ways
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Nah, that is not what she meant.
I am not going to condemn her, but come on.
My perspective is that this is very bad PR. Nothing more.
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The origin story is super generic and has nothing to do with her skin color. It's basically every fantasy origin story, ever. From FF 6 to Oblivion and Skyrim.
Now that "hip hoppy walk" remark is super cringe tho.
Now that "hip hoppy walk" remark is super cringe tho.
It just means have some swag, rhythm, and soul. Energetic and bouncy is somewhat correct still. Still a very inappropriate statement
To help with this a bit, here's the main playable character in The Gunk-
You know, this would probably have a better ring to it if the crux of the article wasn't white people coding black people in the same way white people have coded black people for the past 80 years.
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"SHE DOES THE NENE TO ESCAPE HER TROUBLES"
I disagree with this.
I rather they do better, than not at all.
Framing it as either/or is a losing proposition.
Square Enix and word vomit/bad pr. Name a more iconic duo.
Thank you for this.
The 'WHOOSH' was deafening and I could not even formulate a response.
I know y'all are gassed because this game has a black protagonist, but I just can't trust anyone doing it right other than a black team. Looks like my fears were founded.
fucking pricks
fucking pricks
Alright whose racist grandma is working mocap on this game
Still excited for a Black woman to star and lead a Square JRPG, but god damn why did they have to fumble so hard.
Fuck this. Don't use us minorities to make white people richer while reducing our only presence to tired stereotypes. Give us some respect.
Fuck this. Don't use us minorities to make white people richer while reducing our only presence to tired stereotypes. Give us some respect.
Ugh this sounds bad.
I was really hyped for the game but this dampens it a fair bit. They still got time before release so I hope they take this criticism and fix it. Delay it if you need to.
I was really hyped for the game but this dampens it a fair bit. They still got time before release so I hope they take this criticism and fix it. Delay it if you need to.
No it's not dumb to want black writers. Diversity and inclusivity should be present at all levels of development, not just in the final images on your he screen
But in this case, the character is from "our world" or the "real world," so I think the context/subtext is a little different in this case whether intentional or not
White people should not be writing anyone remotely brown. Just like, fuck off. Hippy hoppy kind of walk? Fuckin what?
Imma keep it a bean, imma still support this. We got Shorty on the cover looking magnificent and the game looks fun. Story wise, it's always expectations low, so I can have the right to be surprised. I hope it's good overall though and doesn't come off with egregious stuff that the sterilized cliff notes the devs have sounds like.
We have swag in are culture. Prison is not our destiny, but some of our environments brush up against it due to the lay of land, and some of us do have chips on our shoulder. I'm not writing this off because of that...
We have swag in are culture. Prison is not our destiny, but some of our environments brush up against it due to the lay of land, and some of us do have chips on our shoulder. I'm not writing this off because of that...
Yeah, this ain't it.
White people and black people have had different histories, different experiences, purely because of their race and the privileges (for white people), or disadvantages (for black people) that come with folks purely on their skin color.
No one knows black people better than black people. Thus black people are the most appropriate for telling black people's stories. We've had a LONG history of white people telling black people's stories and let's face it, fucking sucking at it.
THEN we get to opportunity. We've had a long history of an agency, company, employer, what have you, hiring a white person over a black person PURELY because of racial bias. In the western world (where of course Hollywood and other BIG places are generally located), are ruled by white people. So naturally, white people have historically been shall we say, not exactly gracious in why they'd pick a white person to do, really, anything when even a black person beside them could do it even better. It's about giving black people opportunities that they've been denied for generations.
In the 21st century we are moving to a new generation that is bringing the power black people, and other minorities, were denied for far too long. It's about time we give black writers, black actors, black musicians, what have you the opportunity to bring their vision and talents to the forefront and not have a white person get in the way or take credit for that, because white people have fucking done that for decades.
So yeah, let black people do their thing. Let them tell their stories and not have white people keep trying to tell their stories for them.
Is... is that your alt? Or did the person you quoted try hard to have your username too essentially?
I know right? Registered since the beginning and only had 85 posts. I promise you, I'M NOT THAT PERSON. Anyone higher up can verify it. I can DM them anything they want to prove it if needed.
Hero of Legend isn't super special if you're a Zelda fan as it's used semi-regularly there. Ironically, that wasn't why I picked mine. I first used it at Serebii back in 2005. Just came to me maybe when needing a cool name that had spaces (as GoldMetalSonic was my no space name just prior at IGN).
Honestly this is the most egregious parts to me. I don't even care as much about the hip hoppy crap that was just icing on the weirdly stereotypical tropey shit.
I want to be excited for this but the misses are piling up and the fucked up shit is if this doesn't perform well who knows when we get another protag of color that's why this shit suck so damn much at times.
There Must have been some mix up between the PR staff, the Mo-Cap people, and the writers.
Gary Whitta (who has done great work with TT's Walking Dead) and Amy Henning Fucking up THIS bad? I can't wrap my head around it.
Gary Whitta (who has done great work with TT's Walking Dead) and Amy Henning Fucking up THIS bad? I can't wrap my head around it.
There's only one thing for it - you must fight to the death
This wouldn't even register on my radar as one of the more obvious alts (it's not one, heh).
Funny enough this isn't the first "imposter", there's a user at IGN with a similar shortened name (IGN doesn't allow spaces, likely why I went with GoldMetalSonic there in the first place). Wonder if it's the same person. I had to edit my signature there when I found out to make sure folks knew we were two different people.
I am gonna go by the footage we've seen.
To me she seems very refreshing as a protagonist. None of the footage so far implied any such demeaning characterization.
Yeah, you'd think any alt would, you know, not use a similar name to the main account. Anyway this is getting off topic. We kind of have a far more important topic here that needs focus. :P
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I think anyone who gets my reference will understand lol. Jesus out of touch.
I think anyone who gets my reference will understand lol. Jesus out of touch.
The only thing I'll say to you is,
"If someone goes to great lengths in order to show you who they are, believe them."
Is it really inclusivity if these creators are going to close the door on having Black protagonists at the first sign of criticism? Like if that's how fragile these people are then what are we really losing if they fuck off? Like I'm picturing the "on the verge of prison" devs saying they're never going to create a character line this again and all I can think is a very sarcastic "No, stop, please, come back." I can't say that I'm very concerned about what they do going forward.
Also that second paragraph is wild. How did you manage to grasp "Black people aren't a monolith" but land on "and that's why you don't need black writers"? They're literally telling you Frey is an angry girl from the streets, who has a swag walk, and would've ended up in prison if not for the magical realm she falls into. How old and played out is that racist archetype?
There are enough white people in high level jobs. Let minorities have a break.