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[LEAK] Massive Devil May Cry 5 Info (Potential heavy spoilers inside!)
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Yeah. DMC1 and DMC3 are really really inly playable on three platforms. Should get a proper current gen release on consoles and PC.
Wow, so Capcom basically fucked me out of 20 bucks. Having the game constantly freeze makes it unplayable.
Nah apparently DMC2 was a completely different game that got the DMC label slapped on it due to the success of DMC1, and Itsuno was brought in late to development to try and salvage the wreck.
Wasn't 2 something not exactly well planned? Kamiya wasn't told about it and they just wanted to make the game bigger, etc.? I kind of doubt Capcom would risk not spending time carefully planning and developing the return of such a beloved franchise.
The legend goes that DMC2 was originally some other game entirely that started development before the original DMC even released, I believe. After DMC proved successful they decided to jury-rig this unrelated game into a sequel at some point late in development, which led to what we now know as DMC2. Itsuno was only brought in late in development to try and bring the project together, according to Hideki Kamiya himself.
When it came time to make DMC3, Itsuno was in charge the whole way through, and Capcom was actually really receptive to fan feedback, which led to the greatest goddamn video game ever made, fight me irl if u disagree. Meet me somewhere.
A lesser known rule of DMC games is "If Vergil's in it, it's gonna be good". DMC1, DMC3, DMCV(ergil's Return). DMC4 only sorta has Vergil in it, so it's only sorta good. DMC2: no Vergil, bad game. It's airtight.
(DmC technically has a Vergil, but his presence is cancelled out by the fedora and the need to tell us he had the bigger dick, rather than it simply being obvious like the other games.)
(DmC technically has a Vergil, but his presence is cancelled out by the fedora and the need to tell us he had the bigger dick, rather than it simply being obvious like the other games.)
It's been 3 and a half years since I played the campaign, so I don't remember much, but why do I have a feeling this actually happened in the game?
ive played the ever loving shit out of the NA PSN version DMC3 and i've never known it to crash
I wonder what triggers it?
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Welp. DmC Vergil is even douchier than I remembered then. Damn.
Part of me still wants a sequel to DmC, though... But DMCV takes priority, of course.
At least Shoot the works and Wings of the Guardian are killer battle themes. I also liked the art direction of DMC2. Aside from the Infected Helicopter it had its good elements.
Your faith will be redeemed.
I really hope they steer clear of dial-a-combo for DMCV. Bayonetta (if the series continues) needs to be very different from DMC going forward so we can get some healthy variety and competition going in character action games again. Its been way too lonely on the throne for way too long.
There's another Dane coming next week.
At least one Dante will show up next week!
Former naughty dog senior animator Tal Peleg as the production of the first chapter entitled "Dante's Redemption" will be released on December 7 new CG videos
Neither were placeholders.
Onimusha 2, was in simultaneous development with Warlords, by a second team headed by Eshiro and both projects overseen by Inafune. DMC2 went into full development during the western localisation of the original, without Kamiya's Team Little Devils or Itsuno and his core team (CPS4). There were a handful of his staff who joined the team very late during it's development to help with QA as it was in absolute shambles and Itsuno was one of them, and took the bad name. 3 (and 3SE) was in his complete control right from pre-production and ultimately, his redemption as (then and now) a legendary action game designer/developer and not just another one of capcom's fighting game gods.
A slightly similar modern example would be the transition from the 2009/2010 interns at KojiPro developed Metal Gear Solid: Rising's "What will you cut?" development hell to Metal Gear Rising, after Kojima met the PlatinumGames (ironically) staff at their HQ and finalized the proceedings.
I made a post detailing why Devil May Cry 3/4 have a different, deeper and superior combat system than the "dial-a-combo" system you mention. I'll quote for ease:
Ok I see, I meant placeholder more as another team was working on 2 while the team of Onimusha 1 was directly making 3.
You're wrong about Bayonetta though. Every single combo has its particular use in how it interacts with certain enemies. Its just a bit obtuse and subtle at first. The draw-back with DMC's style system is that you are constantly battling the feeling of "I wonder if this combo is off cooldown yet?". They both have their pros and cons and I don't prefer one over the other, I just enjoy them being different and want it to stay that way. There are plenty of other things that should inspire these games back and forth without ruining the core systems.
Can I just say, Sub Boss, every time I jump in this thread, I wanna fucking devour your goddamn delicious looking avatar.
I wouldn't say combos have different effects on different enemies. Some get wicked weaves out quicker than others, and the slower ones tend to deal more damage. The feeling you describe isn't something I feel with devil may cry as the options at your disposal are plentiful enough to make use of, while maintaining style I increase. Perhaps it's simply a different view. I have a clear bias towards devil may Cry, but as you say they are different and needn't be the same. The focus of each games systems is different, and variety is s great thing for any genre.
I'm assuming you mean moves here. Never been an issue as long as you can remember the basic properties of moves.
Three things people will remember DmC's Vergil
1) He has a bigger dick
2) He drives the Vergil-Mobile with a big V on it
3) He loves abortions, can't get enough of it
I must have repressed that memory. Fucking hilarious that that concept made it in.
This thread is ric flair personified
Woooooo! Capcom about to make a comeback with the Nature boy Dante.
Woooooo! Capcom about to make a comeback with the Nature boy Dante.
I never knew Vergil had a V-mobile. That's hilarious. They should have played up stuff like that. The story might've been more fun if they did.
- Large open environments without much in the way of actual content, which results in poor pacing and tons of boring traversal.
- There's a lot of creative puzzle sequences that, unfortunately, for the most part are either poorly designed or not very fun to solve.
- The physics are way off. Launchers and knock backs send enemies flying.
- Bad AI. Some enemies don't even target the player.
- Most of the enemies and bosses present little challenge. They are slow and deal little damage and so present little threat, and few are designed around the combat or the players abilities in a way that's engaging or fun. There are a couple of exceptions like Tartarussian, Bolverk, the giant building boss, Phantom and Despair Embodied, which is why they're the only ones people found memorable or remember somewhat fondly. But even those are still way less engaging and challenging than most of the bosses in 1 and 3.
- The only melee weapons are heavy and powerful/fast but less damaging variants of Rebellion and Lucia's knives.
- Gunfire is overpowered and launches enemies, so it's a useful tactic, but makes the gameplay dull.
- You can only upgrade weapon damage, health and DT. Lucia and Dante have, DT excepted, access to their complete movesets from the start, so there is little to look forward to, and most of the moves Dante and Lucia have aren't really useful.
- The world building is solely focused on the game's plot, with a couple of exceptions, and does little to build up the overall game world.
- Story barely has any connection to DMC1, and is somehow even more non-existent than DMC1's, despite having more cutscenes.
- Apart for a couple of fun moments, Dante is a complete stoic. The other characters aren't very fun either.
- Large open environments without much in the way of actual content, which results in poor pacing and tons of boring traversal.
- There's a lot of creative puzzle sequences that, unfortunately, for the most part are either poorly designed or not very fun to solve.
- The physics are way off. Launchers and knock backs send enemies flying.
- Bad AI. Some enemies don't even target the player.
- Most of the enemies and bosses present little challenge. They are slow and deal little damage and so present little threat, and few are designed around the combat or the players abilities in a way that's engaging or fun. There are a couple of exceptions like Tartarussian, Bolverk, the giant building boss, Phantom and Despair Embodied, which is why they're the only ones people found memorable or remember somewhat fondly. But even those are still way less engaging and challenging than most of the bosses in 1 and 3.
- The only melee weapons are heavy and powerful/fast but less damaging variants of Rebellion and Lucia's knives.
- Gunfire is overpowered and launches enemies, so it's a useful tactic, but makes the gameplay dull.
- You can only upgrade weapon damage, health and DT. Lucia and Dante have, DT excepted, access to their complete movesets from the start, so there is little to look forward to, and most of the moves Dante and Lucia have aren't really useful.
- The world building is solely focused on the game's plot, with a couple of exceptions, and does little to build up the overall game world.
- Story barely has any connection to DMC1, and is somehow even more non-existent than DMC1's, despite having more cutscenes.
- Apart for a couple of fun moments, Dante is a complete stoic. The other characters aren't very fun either.
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As soon as I did a Stinger and Dante moved one step forward I knew DMC2 was not going to be good.
I did love the critical DT mode
I did love the critical DT mode
Thanks. I don't know why I can't remember this game, because I remember the first one very vividly. I was fairly sure the second character was Trish too.
I love the Vergilmobile so much.
"Wait, who am I again?"
*Looks over at giant 'V' on dashboard*
"Oh, right, I'm Vergil"
But that just wastes a button for one attack. It's good to have simplified inputs, but having to sacrifice variety for that isn't worth it.
Amazing. How much effort went into this?
Dante's Inferno? Hope they don't get sued by EA or something.
She was the third character actually. Lucia, a new character, was the second. Trish was just unlockable.
And I'm AVVESOME!
But all in all I like the remaster and I'd gladly see a sequel made by Ninja Theory sometime after DMCV hits the shelves.
They pretty much pretend it doesn't exist by making it so far into the future that it doesn't matter either way
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