Marvel threads really bring 'em outAre you playing a character or something? You're not being serious with this, right?
Marvel threads really bring 'em outAre you playing a character or something? You're not being serious with this, right?
Yes, you are judging (i.e., critiquing) a movie series you have never seen based on a cursory Wiki write-up. Who's arguing in bad faith, again?Okay so you clearly are not arguing in good faith and are just trolling.
Also where am I critiquing those movies? Not being a cinematic universe isn't a critique.
Saying that Harry Potter is a 8 movie fantasy series based on a book isn't "critique".
Do you actually know what critiquing is?
Yes, you are judging (i.e., critiquing) a movie series you have never seen based on a cursory Wiki write-up. Who's arguing in bad faith, again?
Moving goalposts when called on an erroneous statement is not a good look.
I feel like he IS in a position of power since people are only backing this based on his filmography. Jennifer Aniston just got ignored when she tried. She didn't get two 20 page threads on the subject.Yes, it does. In order to restrict or limit access to something, which is the definition of the term, you need to be in a position of power.
Marty, is not a gatekeeper.
I feel like he IS in a position of power since people are only backing this based on his filmography. Jennifer Aniston just got ignored when she tried. She didn't get two 20 page threads on the subject.
Not immediately but once whatever he had been working on finished... the MCU would absolutely skip a beat, and could go into full arrest
I dont think so. A successor would be named. The movies would stay on track. And they'd be MCU movies just like ones we're getting. The MCU is simply too big to stop now.
I feel like he IS in a position of power since people are only backing this based on his filmography. Jennifer Aniston just got ignored when she tried. She didn't get two 20 page threads on the subject.
Isn't the entirety of the Kardashians' existence based on power gained from pure recognition?
This feels like something a flat earther would tell me when I tell them about gravity
Isn't the entirety of the Kardashians' existence based on power gained from pure recognition?
Well, I suppose he could stop them from coming back since he's got a decent amount of power in film preservationWhat in God's name are you blabbering about? What does that have to do with anything?
Again, can Martin Scorsese restrict or limit the access of Marvel movies appearing in every theater on Earth? Can he stop any Marvel film from being made? No? Then he's not in a position of power. Period.
4 out of the 10 highest grossing movies of all time are Marvel movies.
2 out of 5 highest grossing movies of all time are Marvel movies from the same directors.
22.585 billion of 23 movies. That's 983 million average.
Last Spielberg movie was Ready Player One. Last Scorsese movie is financed by Netflix so this "real cinema" talk is funny to me.
Yes and the successor wouldn't have the depth of knowledge and passion Feige has.
Dude is a legend
Well, I suppose he could stop them from coming back since he's got a decent amount of power in film preservation
Dude is definitely a legend. Totally disagree there could be no one equal or better. Who knows who's waiting in the wings. And it's not like Fiege single handily makes these films. I was simply commenting on Marty's point about MCU movies not being filmmaker driven.
That void where some of Lon Chaney's early work lives
I feel like it's a bigger issue than just theme park movies.
a lot of it is that ticket prices are incredibly expensive, with no sliding scale for ticket prices at most theaters, and film goers are completely free to decide what they want to spend their money on. Here in LA, most theaters are charging $25 a ticket. Some films I'd rather see at home. Some films I'd rather see in the theater.
for me, I really enjoy the aural and visual fun of a blockbuster in the theater, and I like the crowd excitement and spectacle of the audience as much as the movie itself. I feel that $25 a ticket, plus $7 for popcorn, and $6 for a drink is a lot to spend on smaller films that would probably be more enjoyable to watch at home. I don't go to the movies much in general, but the cost is the main reason why. So when I do, I want to feel like I'm getting my money's worth.
I really like Scorsese's movies, but trips to the theater aren't cheap, so I have to really pick and choose what I drop my $35-40 on. Although, to be completely honest, I'd rather spend that on a video game, so even blockbusters aren't enough to entice me to the theater.
Wow. Ya, no. Feige is not the only variable at work to marvels cinematic successes.What's the difference between Marvel's Cinematic Universe attempt and everyone else's?
Feige is the man at Marvel period. He's the showrunner and he's irreplaceable
Wow. Ya, no. Feige is not the only variable at work to marvels cinematic successes.
I think that second point is very valid. Just two people hitting up the movies can be 49 bucks depending on where you live.
Yep and he has an excellent record.Feige's cinematic accomplishments are all firnly on the business side.
Feige's cinematic accomplishments are all firnly on the business side.
I hear you, though MoviePass and later AMC A-List cured that problem for me. Then I had to move where only Regal Theaters dominate and now I'm back to your predicament.
Wait, for real? 25$ for a movie ticket? Is it common in California/US? This gives me a completely new prospective on the subject.
Here in Italy the average price is 7-8€ and some days in certain theatres (usually on tuesday and wednesday) you can watch movies for 4-5€.
Most I have spent for a movie ticket was $19 for an IMAX 3D ticket.
Where the fuck are you getting charged $25?
I enjoy the marvel movies for what they are, but I kind of see his point
I feel like it's a bigger issue than just theme park movies.
a lot of it is that ticket prices are incredibly expensive, with no sliding scale for ticket prices at most theaters, and film goers are completely free to decide what they want to spend their money on. Here in LA, most theaters are charging $25 a ticket. Some films I'd rather see at home. Some films I'd rather see in the theater.
for me, I really enjoy the aural and visual fun of a blockbuster in the theater, and I like the crowd excitement and spectacle of the audience as much as the movie itself. I feel that $25 a ticket, plus $7 for popcorn, and $6 for a drink is a lot to spend on smaller films that would probably be more enjoyable to watch at home. I don't go to the movies much in general, but the cost is the main reason why. So when I do, I want to feel like I'm getting my money's worth.
I really like Scorsese's movies, but trips to the theater aren't cheap, so I have to really pick and choose what I drop my $35-40 on. Although, to be completely honest, I'd rather spend that on a video game, so even blockbusters aren't enough to entice me to the theater.
I mean some of the MCU films can be seen as being on the same level as say Termiantor 2 or other classics by these guys
What's the difference between Marvel's Cinematic Universe attempt and everyone else's?
Feige is the man at Marvel period. He's the showrunner and he's irreplaceable
people still talk about Darth maul, the soundtrack, and last duel so you are right but also missing some stuff.Phantom menace gets talked about as it's Star Wars, also it's talked about in the same way like, godfather 3 is talked about. Not in a great light.
Black panther is would argue would be talked about for its status as a huge and powerful black American film. Which is deserved and great. But I still think it's a way off being remembered for its status as a piece of cinema. Close with some of the killmonger stuff (especially his death scene) but yeah.
That said I could be wrong- all of us could be. We won't know for a while. But marvel I feel will be known for its sales first, and then some of the cinematic stuff a distant second.
He's definitely involved creatively in planning out the rough direction and who the players are going to be.
4 out of the 10 highest grossing movies of all time are Marvel movies.
2 out of 5 highest grossing movies of all time are Marvel movies from the same directors.
22.585 billion of 23 movies. That's 983 million average.
Last Spielberg movie was Ready Player One. Last Scorsese movie is financed by Netflix so this "real cinema" talk is funny to me.
I'm a they. Think whatever you want about me, but that's how I prefer to be identified.
That's one of the worst aspects of the MCU. Women are 50% of the population but they wait like 20 movies to make one about a woman. Then in the next movie the climax grinds to a halt so that they can literally trot out all of their half-developed women characters at once and pat themselves on the back for finally being inclusive. Or Civil War being more bloated than Spider-Man 3 because they decided to introduce 2 major characters in an already bloated movie, without so much as an emo dance number to break up the monotony. Or making nearly every villain a toothless chump that has about 20 minutes of screentime from origin to death.
can't really argue against that...Feige's cinematic accomplishments are all firnly on the business side.
You do realize that Feige wanted to do a Black Widow movie after Iron Man 2 but couldn't due to Ike "Women and black people movies don't sell" Perlmutter. So it's not like he didn't want to.
So when something is good Feige gets the credit but when it's bad Perlmutter gets the blame got it.
So when something is good Feige gets the credit but when it's bad Perlmutter gets the blame got it.
That's my point. That's Marty's point. He is eminently replaceable. It would suck but he would be replaced quickly and effectively. Nothing stops the MCU money train, especially now it's Disney owned. If you think otherwise we'll just agree to disagree.
I really love how credit for the MCU goes to Feige and not the directors/writers
In this case? Yes? Dude literally went to Iger and said he'd quit if he had to keep going through Perlmutter and so Disney in response took Marvel Studios out from under Perlmutter's control and allowed Marvel Studios to report directly to Iger rather than Perlmutter. And the movies started to push for more diversity because he didn't have to get Ike's approval.
Guess he should have fought harder sooner because the end result is embarrassingly regressive for the time period it came out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯