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cooljeanius

is trying to make stuff happen
Member
Oct 27, 2017
148
Concord, NH
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
Dang, glad to hear you're safe!
 

Deleted member 12790

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Oct 27, 2017
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Seconded. And although it's overwhelming, we arguably have more access to corroborating reports than ever before. Prior to the more developed form of the internet we inhabit now (I know, I'm old, we could even go PRIOR TO THE INTERNET but it's not necessary for the point), it was more difficult to find reports from multiple sources. We're now faced with an overload problem, where multiple outlets may be reporting from the same source, and that adds no small amount of noise. On the other hand, we are able as literate people to compare reports to one another and make decisions accordingly. This is the best way to go about satisfying the responsibility of being an informed citizen.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of noise and most people just don't have the time or energy. I'm really not sure what can be done about that.

How about voter aptitude tests? Make them entirely fact based, even rote, just to make sure those voting have studied on the subject. Only let informed people vote.

LOL I seriously have no idea
 

Jmdajr

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,534
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
I am sorry to hear this.....
 

EdReedFan20

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,003
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.

That's terrifying. I'm sorry you had to see all of that. I've passed that building so many times (actually had no clue the paper was HQ'ed there). Now, whenever I pass it, it'll be a reminder of today. I'm sure it'll be tough for everyone in the building to return to work tomorrow. Though, big props to the Capital for still making sure a paper is ready for tomorrow.
 

Deleted member 12790

User requested account closure
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Oct 27, 2017
24,537
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.

Damn dude, I'm sorry you went through that
 

Ramuh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
839
I just used hyper-news cycle in an earlier thread. Is that really a thing or did we just coin a new term?
Ya it just came to me, didn't know you used it earlier. Lol. Its usually why I stick with things that are investigative in nature instead of jamming you with hyper real time stuff. Why I watch things like VICE, 60 minutes and Unreported World (youtube).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The depressing subtext here being that this happens regularly enough that a lazy President has a template for his response.
 

Joeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,478
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
I sincerely hope you recover from this. Take some time and try to feel well.
 

Deleted member 12790

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Oct 27, 2017
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It annoys the shit out of me when I go to doctor's offices or restaurants or whatever, and they have fox news, or shit, any news on TV. Why the fuck do you put that on 24/7 at your shop? What happened to, like, entertaining television? Music or something. Not fucking contentious as all hell Fox news.

God I hate it.
 

Bear

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,904
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
Oh my god I can't even imagine seeing this. So glad you are now safe.
 

Stouffers

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,924
It annoys the shit out of me when I go to doctor's offices or restaurants or whatever, and they have fox news, or shit, any news on TV. Why the fuck do you put that on 24/7 at your shop? What happened to, like, entertaining television? Music or something. Not fucking contentious as all hell Fox news.

God I hate it.
I've been watching a lot of Trek lately. I definitely recommend it to people losing faith in the world around them.
 

m_shortpants

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,271
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.

I can't even imagine what that must be like. Glad you're safe. We're here for you if you need anything.
 

Ramuh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
839
The depressing subtext here being that this happens regularly enough that a lazy President has a template for his response.

You know what would be impactful? I would highlight every inner city death with a brief twitter snippet about the victim. You don't see the camera crews running through these terrible neighborhoods every weekend. We have become immune to the violence (or just not caring about certain areas). Imagine if there was 20 tweets from the President making a note about each victim from inner city violence from a particular city. That is impactful, instead of the copy paste twitter response we have seen.

Sorry for the side track everyone.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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How about voter aptitude tests? Make them entirely fact based, even rote, just to make sure those voting have studied on the subject. Only let informed people vote.

LOL I seriously have no idea

It's a thought, as is compulsory voting. But neither gets to the root of the problem, which, like I said, has to do with people not having the time, energy, or, let's face it, critical literacy. There's a lot of toxic shit in American society that makes it difficult to have any of those three things. Hell, when I was filling out my ballot for the primaries there were still some races that I left blank because I was simply exhausted from sorting out other races and propositions.

A lot of the difficulties probably originate in the usual places– undervaluing and disrespecting education, underpaying workers, the pressures that people feel to work harder and longer hours, lack of child care infrastructure, the list goes on. We're in a bad spot and there are plenty of people, sadly, that want to keep punching down.
 
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Deleted member 12790

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It's a thought, as is compulsory voting. But neither gets to the root of the problem, which, like I said, has to do with people not having the time, energy, or, let's face it, critical literacy. There's a lot of toxic shit in American society that makes it difficult to have any of those three things. Hell, when I was filling out my ballot for the primaries there were still some races that I left blank because I was simply exhausted from sorting out other races and propositions.

A lot of the difficulties probably originate in the usual places– undervaluing and disrespecting education, underpaying workers, the pressures that people feel to work harder and longer hours, lack of child care infrastructure, the list goes on. We're in a bad spot and there are plenty of people, sadly, that want to keep punching down.

I agree, and that's why Betsy DeVoss is the most evil woman in the country.
 

Jpop

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Oct 27, 2017
2,655
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.

So sorry you had to go through this.

Have you reached out to any Psychologist, or have you been recommended any?

Fuck guns.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616

Holy shit dude. I'm so sorry. But first... I just saw the interview and you are a fucking HERO. If you hadn't managed to survive and call the cops it would have been a lot worse. I'm glad that you are here with us and I hope that the survivors make a fast recovery.

And yep, FUCK GUNS. The time to talk about gun control is now, USA. Please coming November, VOTE.
 

NihonTiger

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,527
That's terrifying. I'm sorry you had to see all of that. I've passed that building so many times (actually had no clue the paper was HQ'ed there). Now, whenever I pass it, it'll be a reminder of today. I'm sure it'll be tough for everyone in the building to return to work tomorrow. Though, big props to the Capital for still making sure a paper is ready for tomorrow.

This is what we do in journalism. The news has to get out there. Even when it hits us hard.
 

Vaelic

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,048
Holy shit dude. I'm so sorry. But first... I just saw the interview and you are a fucking HERO. If you hadn't managed to survive and call the cops it would have been a lot worse. I'm glad that you are here with us and I hope that the survivors make a fast recovery.

And yep, FUCK GUNS. The time to talk about gun control is now, USA. Please coming November, VOTE.
The time to talk about guns was when those poor innocent sandy hook children were killed.
 

Nappuccino

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
13,028
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
No one should have to experience this. I'm glad you and so many there made it out alive. I'm distraught for those who weren't so lucky.

As you said, fuck guns.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,293
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.

Be sure to find someone to talk to if you need it. And I'm so, so sorry you had to go through such a horrifying experience.
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
The time to talk about guns was when those poor innocent sandy hook children were killed.
Yeah I was going to say that but I think this is counter productive. We need this to change, and the current legislative house in the USA won't get you there. You need to get out and vote, get people there that will actually do something about this.
 

FTF

Member
Oct 28, 2017
28,496
New York
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.


Holy shit man...glad you're ok and so sorry you had to go through that.
 

GillianSeed79

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,372
I just read that one of those killed used to be a sports writer for my local newspaper, where I interned at in college. I never met him, but it's kind of crazy how small the world is. Being a journalist in this day and age is a thankless job and, frankly, terrifying sometimes. Trump's branding of the media as an evil entity isn't new. It's been going on for years thanks to Fox News propaganda. The sad thing is I'm not actually surprised by this shooting. The right gets a hard-on over the notion of murdering journalists. They even sell t-shirts and bumper stickers proudly suggesting we should hang journalists. Also, Milo can go fuck himself.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,264
New York City
I was there. Saw the shooter. Saw a shot person .

A shotgun going off indoors makes more than a noise. It was so loud I thought something in the utility room had exploded.

I mananged enough guts to look out my office door twice . The first time I saw a man march into the capital gazette with a black shotgun braced against his chest. Called the cops right away. The second time i saw woman on the ground. A minute later two policemen with rifles banged on my door and told me to stay put . 10 minutes later a different set of cops escorted me and a coworker outside. The pool of blood outside the capital gazette office was the size of a bathroom rug.

Fuck guns.
Holy shit.. I'm glad you are ok.
 

Lo-Fi

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Oct 30, 2017
184
It annoys the shit out of me when I go to doctor's offices or restaurants or whatever, and they have fox news, or shit, any news on TV. Why the fuck do you put that on 24/7 at your shop? What happened to, like, entertaining television? Music or something. Not fucking contentious as all hell Fox news.

God I hate it.

It happens at my gym, which makes it impossible to focus on music or a podcast, even though the TV's are on mute. I turn them off every chance I get.
 

Namtab

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,008
Two of dead reporters were friends with David Simon


And of course trolls are going at him.