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So, here is the greatest question of all time that we may never know..

Animal Crossing could have saved wii u with breath of the wild?! Like... would wii u become a 30/40 million units machine with those games?

I remember a very interesting comment from Take Two's CEO about Wii U's failure, he said they intentionally let the brand fade away, they could've been much more aggressive with it if they really wanted, they are a big company, but they decided against that. this is what Strauss Zelnick said back in 2016:

(It's not a slump, it's intentional. They come to market, they do really well, and then they sort of exit the market for a period of time. They've been doing it for like 150 years, and that company has been doing the same thing... They're really thoughtful, they come to market with something they really think is going to work, more often than not it really works, it blows up and then eventually they let it decline and they move on to the next thing. They don't mind having time in between. ).

I believe Wii U concept may have done better if the execution was good but it wasn't, they expected, how much? 10m units sold in its first year? they sold that amount in 3 years, so I imagine the hardware didn't break even, it was abysmal and not really worth it, games like AC:NH never would've never turned into a big success story if they were released on a system nobody own or want to own. Those games are not only successful because they are good or attractive, but also because they are available on a hardware that is breaking records left and right.

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Looking at the charts that made by Hiska-kun, Switch is really closing in on 3DS, I thought that won't be possible because 3DS had the advantage of third parties system sellers like Yokai Watch, Monster Hunter 4, and main DQ titles.

Nintendo is making up for that with their titles doing better than usual, they also do have a complete monopoly over the handheld market now, and Switch Lite model (which I opposed at first honestly) is a brilliant idea to increase hardware sales by reaching different customers with different needs and a lower price point. now I think 25m is not impossible for Switch family in Japan.
 

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They're not shipping 330k units in june alone. Not with the current supply issues

it's not likely but then again you never know nintendo might ship a lot at the end for week 26. Im thinking more 900k but if Nintendo does go a bit aggressive at the end it wouldn't surprise me.

For sell thru it needs 82-83k weekly avg which is a bit of a tall order due to supply issues but it can still happen, only if week23 drop isn't super bad.

Optimistic Prediction

W23: 55k (clubhouse release)
W24: 75k
W25: 85k
W26: 115k
 

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There's nothing in june that would justify a stockpile and this week is looking like a sub 40k one

I'm not seeing it
 
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From the moment Nintendo showed so big apathy towards W101 that let it go the future was written. It's doubtful Platinum will use own resources for self publishing a sequel with limited potential and no other company with fund it.
 

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After the smash success of The Wonderful 101 on PS4 Nintendo is guaranteed to let Astral Chain and the Bayonetta sequels do the same./ERA
 

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As much as I like Platinumgames, they manage to make a contender for the bomba of the gen in 2 consecutive gens. Not an easy feat.
 

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i can see w101 being a big bomba (physically, and i assume digitally it didn't do too well in the markets it's already released in). most people who wanted it probably pre-ordered backed the kickstarter and the post-launch reception hasn't been the best.

i'm a big fan of platinum but honestly i'm not very optimistic in the moves they're making recently. i know they've wanted to go into self-publishing games for so long, but this as their first effort didn't create a lot of confidence, and i won't be surprised if project GG is a AA low budget game at best. i don't know how big that tencent investment was but i don't see them developing and publishing something like nier automata or even astral chain on their own anytime soon.

After the smash success of The Wonderful 101 on PS4 Nintendo is guaranteed to let Astral Chain and the Bayonetta sequels do the same./ERA
oh boy those threads were funny. people were so convinced, platinum gonna buy back all their IPs from sega/nintendo/capcom/etc.
btw what happened to that 5th announcement of platinum 4? it's so weird that the original 4 (including the joke) happened in the span of like 2 months but now it's been a while with no sign of the supposed real 4th announcement. there's no momentum left from that campaign now.
 
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Sovan Jedi

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So, here is the greatest question of all time that we may never know..

Animal Crossing could have saved wii u with breath of the wild?! Like... would wii u become a 30/40 million units machine with those games?

I'd say considering Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has blown well past the Wii U version's lifetime sales and shows no signs of stopping anytime soon that it wasn't the lack of quality games that held Wii U sales back.
 
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First week sales of Clubhouse Games at retail will be 50-100k. If it's close to 100k there are good chances becoming million seller.
 

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Harada: NOOOOOO, you need UE4, spectacular graphics and big boy consoles to sell!

Nintendo: Hahaha, digital domino goes brrrrrrrrr.
 

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Well, it isn't in the voucher plan to begin with. Instead of saving money you'd lose money choosing this game. lol
Edit: not really when you consider the tax, but still...
Generally speaking no nintendo game under a certain price range is even part of the redeemable games anyways
Games priced below 4980 yen aren't part of vouchers program. Brain Training had lower eShop price comparing to retail, Clubhouse Games has the same.
I remember when the voucher program launched in NA they had all sorts of lower priced titles in the selection, which was kind of astounding to me. Good to know that's either changed, or this particular problem did not affect Japan.

P.S.: Bring back vouchers in NA you scoundrels
 
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I remember when the voucher program launched in NA they had all sorts of lower priced titles in the selection, which was kind of astounding to me. Good to know that's either changed, or this particular problem did not affect Japan.

P.S.: Bring back vouchers in NA you scoundrels
In NA, the games listed were 50-60 only. So at worst you paid cover price and the typical scenario you'd save 10-20 dollars when buying the two games, but you never lost money. You're very much misremembering it.
 

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In terms of Evergreens, NSW has probably some of the best seen on a single console. Tier List Time!!! Agree to Disagree lol


4Evergreen: MK8D / Minecraft / ACNH

Evergreen: SMP / Splat2 / SSBU / RFA

Green: BoTW / Brain Training

mind you, these are games that will sell well after launch intill the end of NSW life cycle. A SMP2 would cut into SMP legs but I think the others are safe, RFA could be a 4Evergreen but I can't guage it since we don't know how it'll sell once demand is settled lol.

Wherewill clubhouse 51 land
 

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In terms of Evergreens, NSW has probably some of the best seen on a single console. Tier List Time!!! Agree to Disagree lol


4Evergreen: MK8D / Minecraft / ACNH

Evergreen: SMP / Splat2 / SSBU / RFA

Green: BoTW / Brain Training

mind you, these are games that will sell well after launch intill the end of NSW life cycle. A SMP2 would cut into SMP legs but I think the others are safe, RFA could be a 4Evergreen but I can't guage it since we don't know how it'll sell once demand is settled lol.

Wherewill clubhouse 51 land

Ring fit over botw? come on now.
 

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I feel like it's hard to gauge RFA as an evergreen since the game has had shortage issues from day one.
 
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(Taiwan)
01./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition <RPG> (Nintendo) {2020.05.29}
02./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
03./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
04./00. [PS4] Bayonetta & Vanquish <Bayonetta \ Vanquish> <ACT> (Sega) {2020.05.28}
05./00. [NSW] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Sega) {2020.05.28}

Top 5


NSW - 4
PS4 - 1

(South Korea)
01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition <RPG> (Nintendo) {2020.05.29}
03./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
04./00. [PS4] Bayonetta & Vanquish <Bayonetta \ Vanquish> <ACT> (Sega) {2020.05.28}
05./04. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15}

Top 5

NSW - 4
PS4 - 1

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Low price and file size of Clubhouse Games will offset absence of vouchers at digital sales
 
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Comg matched again Switch top sellers last week, we'll have a good idea for this week's range of sales.

Animal Crossing - 97pts
Xenoblade - 92pts
 

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I'm still afraid, AC needs NSW hardware to be healthy to stay about flat, maybe 70k this week, and XC drop only 50% but most likely more
 
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1st week

Famitsu Sales: Week 40, 2018 (Oct 01 - Oct 07)
01./00. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 126.275 / NEW <40-60%>

Famitsu Sales: Week 42, 2019 (Oct 14 - Oct 20)
01./00. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 68.497 / NEW <60-80%>

Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2019 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)
08./00. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480) - 34.696 / NEW <20-40%>
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2nd week

Famitsu Sales: Week 50, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)
09./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 20.125 / 117.399 <80-100%> (-79%)
 
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NSW - 11
PS4 - 9

Total: 285 (-59)
 
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Tsutaya Ranking: Week 23, 2020 (1 Jun - 7 Jun)

01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
02./00. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
03./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition <RPG> (Nintendo) {2020.05.29} (¥5.980)
04./15. [PS4] The Last of Us Remastered [PlayStation Hits] <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.07.26} (¥1.990)
05./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
06./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
07./09. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
08./08. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
09./10. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
10./00. [NSW] Kowloon Youma Gakuenki: Origin of Adventure <ADV> (Arc System Works) {2020.06.04} (¥5.800)
11./07. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.10} (¥8.980)
12./17. [NSW] Pokemon Sword <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
13./11. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480)
14./30. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980)
15./06. [PS4] Bayonetta & Vanquish <ACT> (Sega) {2020.05.28} (¥3.990)
16./14. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
17./12. [PS4] Trials of Mana <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.24} (¥5.980)
18./18. [NSW] Pokemon Shield <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
19./05. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Azure - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2020.05.28} (¥3.980)
20./16. [NSW] Trials of Mana <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.24} (¥5.980)

Top 20

NSW - 15
PS4 - 5