Yeah, kinda reminds me of the last months of the Wii U in a way.
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Media Create Sales: Week 28, 2020 (Jul 06 - Jul 12)
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Yeah, kinda reminds me of the last months of the Wii U in a way.
Isn't the low quality of pretty much every prior SAO games a logical explanation as to why the franchise is declining? You can only fool people so many times and honestly it's a miracle the franchise hasn't dropped much harder.
Also even though I wish it did it might not even have declined from Fatal Bullet if you factor in digital sales. Fatal Bullet came out 2.5 years ago and digital sales have certainly improved a good deal since.
Y4Q3 3DS vs NSW
W27: 27.5k / 52.2k
W28: 57.0k / 96.9k
Tot: 84.5k / 149.1k (Gap Currently 64.6k)
W29: 41.5k /
W30: 42.5k /
W31: 41.2k /
W32: 41.9k /
W33: 50.2k /
W34: 33.2k /
W35: 34.7k /
W36: 27.9k /
W37: 44.9k /
W38: 47.4k /
W39: 32.8k /
Tot: 537k
W27: 27.5k / 52.2k
W28: 57.0k / 96.9k
Tot: 84.5k / 149.1k (Gap Currently 64.6k)
W29: 41.5k /
W30: 42.5k /
W31: 41.2k /
W32: 41.9k /
W33: 50.2k /
W34: 33.2k /
W35: 34.7k /
W36: 27.9k /
W37: 44.9k /
W38: 47.4k /
W39: 32.8k /
Tot: 537k
Jikkyou has a built-in audience on the PS4 and prior Sony platforms already though. People have been buying that series exclusively on Sony platforms for 10 years and have been trained to look for it there. You are missing that context.
It's wrong to merely look at installed base and current sales when analyzing a game's performance.
You must also consider the fact that Konami has been building a fanbase on PS4 (and, more generally, on Sony platforms) for years. All latest mainline games were released on Sony platforms hence the audience is definitely there. In the past years, a Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball fan had to own a PS4 or a PSV to play the game. He or she need not to own a Switch, because the franchise wasn't here apart from the last year's spin-off.
You can't migrate a fanbase just like that from the first real try. It takes time. In fact, I'm surprised the Switch version did so well also considering the fact that it will have much better legs than the PS4 version.
Another factor to take into account is the fact that the Switch audience, being of a younger age on average, tends to buy games later. So first week sales reflect that especially for a game like Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball which has a large and heterogenous fanbase. Indeed, Switch might also expand the audience of the franchise, which is a good thing.
Dragon Quest Builders 2 had a very close FW across the two platforms (131k on PS4 and 127k on Switch).
Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 did 9k on Switch and 4k on PS4 but the Switch version eventually achieved almost 100k units.
Chocobo Mystery Dungeon did 27k on Switch and 20k on PS4.
We will keep seeing Switch versions closing the gap or selling more.
Falcom games share the same negative sales curve after losing the handheld audience and their deliberate PS4 focus, be it with Ys or Trails. Playstation is at an historic lowpoint in Japan after all.
Fatal Bullet isn't a RPG like the others though. It seems more some kind of gameplay experiment.
Switch ports show how the RPG sold more than the action game, even if the second released in a bigger fanbase.
[NSW] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization - Deluxe Edition <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.25} (¥5.700) - 17.618 / NEW <60-80%>
[NSW] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet - Complete Edition for Nintendo Switch <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.08.08} (¥6.800) - 11.770 / NEW <40-60%>
But Chris pointed it was also the third release of Fatal Bullet.
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Since The Origami King is releasing this week, here are previous entries' launches, courtesy of GDL:
05/00. [N64] Paper Mario 118.322
01/00. [GCN] Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 137.750
01/00. [WII] Super Paper Mario 156.055
03/00. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star 130.009
02/00. [WIU] Paper Mario Color Splash 28.436
05/00. [N64] Paper Mario 118.322
01/00. [GCN] Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 137.750
01/00. [WII] Super Paper Mario 156.055
03/00. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star 130.009
02/00. [WIU] Paper Mario Color Splash 28.436
Except Ys IX didn't decline from Ys VIII, yet. Original release:
PSV - Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - 78.070
PS4 - Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 68.248
Ys IX is missing digital sales there and whatever legs it had after its last chart appearance.
It will depend on the sales of the Switch version of Ys IX to see if they can match the late PS4 port of Ys VIII.
PS4 - Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - 61.538
Not sure what to expect from TOK. Surely 100k+ FW is in the cards?
The late PS4 port of YsVIII was announced before the PSV release and got additionnal content irrc.
It was announced for PS4 from the start, and it did indeed have additional content.
Ys IX selling enough digitally to surpass Ys VII physical + digital is a pretty big assumption.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for a two year port to sell 61k like the PS4 version of VIII, which was announced alongside the Vita version in the first place.
They were announced at the same time. The Vita version just released first.
What's the strategy Falcom should pursue regarding its new games in terms of platform choice?
Wow, that Color Splash performance. Consistent 100k seller to < 30k.
TOK should hopefully clear 100k again.
200k is too optimistic, at least at retail.
100-120k seems more accurate at the moment.
Updated!!! 17 weeks
PokeSmash - 6484k vs ACNH - 5114k
Gap-1370k
First 25 weeks (PokeSmash vs ACNH)
W1: 2603k - 1880k
W2: 827k - 728k
W3: 700k - 423k
W4: 456k - 293k
W5: 498k - 286k
W6: 351k - 284k
W7: 289k - 260k
W8: 234k - 195k
W9: 105k - 130k
W10: 84k - 102k
W11: 66k - 102k
W12: 50k - 98k
W13: 47k - 77k
W14: 48k - 74k
W15: 38k - 70k
W16: 45k - 53k
W17: 40k - 56k
W18: 33k -
W19: 29k -
W20: 26k -
W21: 25k
W22: 33k
W23: 18k
W24: 17k
W25: 16k
PokeSmash - 6484k vs ACNH - 5114k
Gap-1370k
First 25 weeks (PokeSmash vs ACNH)
W1: 2603k - 1880k
W2: 827k - 728k
W3: 700k - 423k
W4: 456k - 293k
W5: 498k - 286k
W6: 351k - 284k
W7: 289k - 260k
W8: 234k - 195k
W9: 105k - 130k
W10: 84k - 102k
W11: 66k - 102k
W12: 50k - 98k
W13: 47k - 77k
W14: 48k - 74k
W15: 38k - 70k
W16: 45k - 53k
W17: 40k - 56k
W18: 33k -
W19: 29k -
W20: 26k -
W21: 25k
W22: 33k
W23: 18k
W24: 17k
W25: 16k
The reason there are more Switches sold than PS4s is because there are more children with Switches. Children don't have the financial liquidity that adults have, so they most rely on saving up money, gifts, and begging.
It is very likely that there are more adults with PS4s than adults with Switches in Japan, if that is the case, getting close to parity with launch week sales is quite the feat.
You have to remember though that hardware installbase =/= active userbase. PS4 is past its peak so the actually active userbase on it was probably higher year or two years ago despite that total hardware installbase obviously has grown since then.
Yes it has vouchers.
It is priced like most Nintendo Switch games so lower than AC and FE (but like MK8 or AC). We can expect a ~30% digital share for the game around launch.
But this is coherent with sales data. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018 sold 133.555 on PS4, 42k units more than this year's version at retail.
That's true as well, and there aren't as many active Switches as sold either, since a certain number get put back into sale at used stores (the Switch has been our long enough for it to happen). It would be difficult to say which one has more active users, and of those active users are adults capable of buying games at launch. That said, I suspect that there are more active adult PS4 players than adult Switch players, and of players with both might tend to opt for the PS4 version, so the games selling pretty close to the same amount is IMO pretty respectable.
Trying to imply any Ys decline is the Switch's fault is proper Galaxy brain material.
Also, the Jikkyou shows how much PS exclusives going multiplat is eating sales from the PS SKUs too (which is logical). PS software sales should further decline if multiplat strategies become more widespread (as it is starting to be).
I mean of course the same is true for Switch but considering how it's in its peak form most of Switch owners are buying games at the moment and that amount grows every week and month. PS4s active userbase is shrinking all the time despite total hardware base still marginally growing every week. Maybe this pandemic has changed that a bit though (globally PS4 will ship more sw this past quarter than last year). I mean yeah it's pretty hard to say which one has more active adult players. Maybe PS4 still edges Switch out in that demo (well at least men in their early 20s).
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Kids with Switch and adults with PS4 is oversimplified and not very close to what is really happening. eShop sales for Jikkyou 2020 are much stronger than last year's entry despite the not so bigger opening at retail.
great numbers. new horizons passed the LTD of brain age 2, next up animal crossing wild world.
ps4 about to cross streams with ps3 soon.
ps4 about to cross streams with ps3 soon.
Good week for SW, especially Baseball. Switch near 100k, but PS4 shortages continue to worsen. 3k is simply astounding really. At this rate PS3 will have no trouble overtaking the PS4, and there is no doubt Japan is low priority when it comes to restocking
