• Light/Dark
  • Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Media Create Sales: Week 28, 2020 (Jul 06 - Jul 12)

OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
100-150k for Paper Mario and 150-200k for Ghost of Tsushima will be the openings at retail, closer to low bound.
 
zroid

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
Powerful performance by Switch hardware

Professional legs by the Switch evergreens
 
SpaceCrystal

SpaceCrystal

Banned
Apr 1, 2019
7,714
Bruno MB said:
We usually talk about Japanese domestic market decline and practices from certain companies that honestly don't make much sense and sometimes I got the feeling as if they wanted to boycott themselves, and this week we have a perfect example of it.

On the one hand, we have Konami that releases simultaneously on PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 maintaining the high sales of 2016 and 2018 entries thanks to multi-platform strategy. On the other hand, we have Bandai Namco that once again decided to skip the hottest Japanese platform for a medium-sized game (being generous) that to make things even funnier was born and found success in a portable platform, and when it comes to the international market I seriously doubt Xbox One is a better fit. Well, the results are clear and for everybody to see, Sword Art Online reaches a new franchise low. Perhaps there will be a logical explanation for this but I am unable to figure it out.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

cw_sasuke said:
Self-fulfilling prophecy, admitting you were wrong about the way and kind of support your are providing to a platform seems to be the most hurtful thing for some of these publishers. So they just pretend like there is no other viable target platform and keep it moving. They are gonna rather PSV/PS4 looking games exclusive on a 1m PS5 install base then considering 15m Switch systems for anything that looks like a non-family title xD
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

fiendcode said:
At this point the only companies still engaging in this seem to be divisions within the biggest four pubs (Bandai Namco, Square Enix, Capcom, Sega) mostly under the direction of specific execs, and ass-backwards Falcom.

Otherwise Switch has the sort of universal industry support Nintendo hasn't seen since probably the golden Famicom/Gameboy/SuFami days.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

cw_sasuke said:
True, it seems to to the case for divisions run by powerful executives that have enough pull to convince the board of why their projects cant or shouldn't target Switch. Those guys wont change their stance unless a money hat is involved - sad.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Japanese 3rd party publishers will soon see that they can't afford to be biased against Nintendo (& even Microsoft) anymore. The fanbase for PlayStation is constantly shrinking in Japan since the PS3, & it's not going to get any better with PS5, especially when development costs are continuing to rise within each generation. And most of their 3rd party series (IP's) are diminishing in popularity.
 
OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
2nd week

Famitsu Sales: Week 7, 2018 (Feb 12 - Feb 18)
07./03. [PS4] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.08} (¥8.200) - 15.961 / 97.180 <80-100%> (-80%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 18, 2018 (Apr 30 - May 06)
02./01. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018 <SPT> (Konami) {2018.04.26} (¥7.980) - 37.818 / 171.373 <60-80%> (-72%)
07./02. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018 <SPT> (Konami) {2018.04.26} (¥6.980) - 17.959 / 76.170 <60-80%> (-69%)
 
Pooroomoo

Pooroomoo

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,972
Chris1964 said:
2nd week

Famitsu Sales: Week 7, 2018 (Feb 12 - Feb 18)
07./03. [PS4] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.08} (¥8.200) - 15.961 / 97.180 <80-100%> (-80%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 18, 2018 (Apr 30 - May 06)
02./01. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018 <SPT> (Konami) {2018.04.26} (¥7.980) - 37.818 / 171.373 <60-80%> (-72%)
07./02. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018 <SPT> (Konami) {2018.04.26} (¥6.980) - 17.959 / 76.170 <60-80%> (-69%)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
What was the second week for the spinoff Switch got last year?
 
OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
Famitsu Sales: Week 27, 2019 (Jul 01 - Jul 07)
05./02. [NSW] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball <SPT> (Konami) {2019.06.27} (¥6.980) - 18.719 / 94.224 <60-80%> (-75%)
 
OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
Unsurprisingly anymore comg x 1000 matched again another big Switch opening

eBaseball Switch - 100pts
eBaseball PS4 - 90pts
 
Man God

Man God

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,398
SAO's popularity is down a bit and the fact that the games started bad and have only gotten worse is why the franchise is where it is.
 
OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
Another update of my favorite publisher for those who still don't want to understand the reason several Bandai Namco games skip Switch has nothing to do with power or targeting a different market (whatever that market is) but more with personal bias in favor of Sony / against Nintendo or both.

Yousuke Futami - producer of Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris. Didn't give a clear answer of whether Switch will get even a late port of it neither if it's possible or not. Everything under his supervision has skipped Switch and when he was asked for Hollow Fragment and whether it will be ported to Switch too (a Vita game that got remastered on PS4/PC) he raised development costs that make this port impossible for money reasons.

Kenji Nakajima - producer behind the port of Doraemon Story of Seasons on PlayStation 4, because as he said many PS4 users wanted to play this game. It won't have more than 10-20k lifetime sales in Japan.
 
KillerMan91

KillerMan91

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,380
Well considering how this new SAO runs on PS4 I shutter to think how Switch version would had run. Maybe late port in this case is actually preferable if its leads to game actually working.
 
oese0

oese0

Member
Feb 1, 2020
449
Germany
Chris1964 said:
Another update of my favorite publisher for those who still don't want to understand the reason several Bandai Namco games skip Switch has nothing to do with power or targeting a different market (whatever that market is) but more with personal bias in favor of Sony / against Nintendo or both.

Yousuke Futami - producer of Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris. Didn't give a clear answer of whether Switch will get even a late port of it neither if it's possible or not. Everything under his supervision has skipped Switch and when he was asked for Hollow Fragment and whether it will be ported to Switch too (a Vita game that got remastered on PS4/PC) he raised development costs that make this port impossible for money reasons.

Kenji Nakajima - producer behind the port of Doraemon Story of Seasons on PlayStation 4, because as he said many PS4 users wanted to play this game. It won't have more than 10-20k lifetime sales in Japan.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

And that's their loss. I really can't be arsed to get upset about crap like this anymore. My backlog is already far too big to be completed, considering I only play 1-2 hours a day due to being time constrained because of traveling every day, so I can't really be tethered to a TV to play a newly-released huge ass RPG as if I don't have to finish at least 5 JRPGs on my Switch (tbh that's a me-issue lmao). Not releasing a portable version of a game like SAO is simply stupid, even if it's possibly gonna be a late port in like 1,5 years cause, well, Bandai.
 
Mpl90

Mpl90

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,215
Chris1964 said:
First main entry of Jikkyou on Nintendo systems after a decade means much better legs from last year's gimped release. The only that remains to be seen is how much Switch will eat into PS4 sales.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Funnily enough, Jikkyou may be one of the posterchilds of how different the Switch is compared to the Wii in terms of mid-long term userbase engagement

PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14 147.993 300.007 Konami 19/07/2007
WII Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Wii 46.280 111.825 Konami 19/07/2007

PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14: Definitive Edition 37.480 111.160 Konami 20/12/2007
WII Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Wii: Definitive Edition 11.000 11.000 Konami 20/12/2007

PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 15 86.950 213.551 Konami 24/07/2008
WII Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 15 19.991 68.413 Konami 24/07/2008

PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2009 44.136 166.085 Konami 19/03/2009
WII Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Next 18.544 78.019 Konami 19/03/2009

01./00. [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 <SPT> (Konami) {2020.07.09} (¥6.980) - 94.876 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 <SPT> (Konami) {2020.07.09} (¥7.980) - 91.547 / NEW
 
Mr Swine

Mr Swine

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
6,086
Sweden
Isn't the switch version of Jikkyou Outselling the previous versions on Vita? That is pretty telling when this is mostly a "PlayStation" franchise
 
Zarckoh

Zarckoh

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,084
Mexico
You can already see better sales from day one multiplat Switch games and people still deny that even mid tier games should get the resources to make it possible.

It's just baffling all around.
 
Hero of Legend

Hero of Legend

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,659
Mr Swine said:
Isn't the switch version of Jikkyou Outselling the previous versions on Vita? That is pretty telling when this is mostly a "PlayStation" franchise
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Don't forget that Disgaea 5 Complete on Switch apparently outsold the PS4 original in the west, a franchise that was all but purely Sony. It's why NISA went full throttle on Switch.
 
Taurus

Taurus

Banned
Jun 15, 2018
733
srtrestre said:
200.gif
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
LMAO

dep9000 said:
LOL. We need that one poster that would always come into these threads and post something positive about Sony. I think I last saw him get excited about Sonmy passing 9M in sales in Japan. LOL. Not sure of his name though. I always chuckled when I saw his posts
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I think it was Kerotan or something like that.
 
会津Aizuの復讐

会津Aizuの復讐

Member
Nov 2, 2017
385
A lot of people remember Kerotan from other forums, and is evident that he only showed his "honest dumb" side in ERA. A few people that knew him called him troll since day 1 in resetera and that is why he didnt show his true power here, because he was already under vigilance.
But my question always was, did kerotan join resetera in the same month ( i think) that Psycho Mantis got perma ban? lol
 
Xbro

Xbro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,105
会津Aizuの復讐 said:
A lot of people remember Kerotan from other forums, and is evident that he only showed his "honest dumb" side in ERA. A few people that knew him called him troll since day 1 in resetera and that is why he didnt show his true power here, because he was already under vigilance.
But my question always was, did kerotan join resetera in the same month ( i think) that Psycho Mantis got perma ban? lol
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That is likely purely coincidental
 
Taurus

Taurus

Banned
Jun 15, 2018
733
会津Aizuの復讐 said:
A lot of people remember Kerotan from other forums, and is evident that he only showed his "honest dumb" side in ERA. A few people that knew him called him troll since day 1 in resetera and that is why he didnt show his true power here, because he was already under vigilance.
But my question always was, did kerotan join resetera in the same month ( i think) that Psycho Mantis got perma ban? lol
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
What was his "true power"? Was he a wizard?
 
Piston

Piston

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,210
EdGaltBR said:
A price cut for flagship Switch and a dockable revised Switch Lite could lead to even better sales in 2021.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'm now fairly convinced that no scenario could lead to better sales in 2021 at this point. The Switch received the best selling game of the last 10-15 years in 2020, that isn't happening in 2021. There is a point where the market starts to get saturated too.
 
Tlozbj

Tlozbj

Banned
Jun 26, 2020
608
Puerto Rico
会津Aizuの復讐 said:
A lot of people remember Kerotan from other forums, and is evident that he only showed his "honest dumb" side in ERA. A few people that knew him called him troll since day 1 in resetera and that is why he didnt show his true power here, because he was already under vigilance.
But my question always was, did kerotan join resetera in the same month ( i think) that Psycho Mantis got perma ban? lol
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Nah, I saw him when I used to lurk a certain videogame sales forum, and he had the same gig over there, but people knew which buttons to press to get him and the innocent gig came crashing down pretty fast on threads
-----------

Pretty okay numbers overall, aside of Switch HW which just continues to shoot towards the heavens. Good to see Switch is beginning to take the lead in certain 3rd party game launches right from the get go. Hopefully RFA can get the stock issue settled out soon, with enough stock I imagine it could get to 2 million by the end of the year. Though have to be surprised with how low PS4 going, it seems to be going out pretty fast. When considering the usual Sony legs for hardware, I would had expected it to withstand a bit more, at least till the PS5 launch was close or until some months after the launch.
 

konoka

Member
Dec 20, 2017
387
Zarckoh said:
You can already see better sales from day one multiplat Switch games and people still deny that even mid tier games should get the resources to make it possible.

It's just baffling all around.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Others including me will say the games should get resources to make them bigger.
This voice is not baffling, right?
 

konoka

Member
Dec 20, 2017
387
MegaXZero said:
Why do you think they are mutually exclusive?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
They are not mutually exclusive but doing both needs more resources than doing one.
And you know there are many bigger games that switch version released later even if all version announced at once, so I think being bigger is the natural first step for struggling mid tier games that will benefit by being bigger.
 
AquaWateria

AquaWateria

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,533
Some publishers love to make switch owners double dip, but I feel like that may honestly harm some games sales potential.
 
fiendcode

fiendcode

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,984
konoka said:
They are not mutually exclusive but doing both needs more resources than doing one.
And you know there are many bigger games that switch version released later even if all version announced at once, so I think being bigger is the natural first step for struggling mid tier games that will benefit by being bigger.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Throwing more resources at a shrinking base doesn't seem like the wiser investment.
 
MegaXZero

MegaXZero

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 21, 2018
5,079
konoka said:
They are not mutually exclusive but doing both needs more resources than doing one.
And you know there are many bigger games that switch version released later even if all version announced at once, so I think being bigger is the natural first step for struggling mid tier games that will benefit by being bigger.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Late ports are rarely an effective use of resources in this market these days. The natural step would be to build a larger base and then build upwards.

hiska-kun said:
Top 30

www.famitsu.com

ゲームソフト販売本数ランキング | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com

PS5、PS4、Switch、3DS等の推定ゲーム販売本数ランキング30件です。2024年4月22日～2024年4月28日に集計された店舗データが元になっています。
www.famitsu.com www.famitsu.com

Edit: Catherine survived lol
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Another big drop for TLOU2.
 
hiska-kun

hiska-kun

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,410
Btw, Famitsu didn't say anything about delaying next week numbers, so only god knows if they will release it in time or not.
 
OP
OP
Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
After 5 weeks Clubhouse Games fell from 1st place to 2nd at weekly eShop charts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.