Not really related to Japan, but NM3 and WW are charting fairly well in the US eShop from the looks of it?
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Abroad, this is only the second Tales of game on Steam in Japan.
(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 35, 2021 (30 Aug - 5 Sep)
01./00. [NSW] Rune Factory 5 <SLG> (Sega) {2021.09.02}
02./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
03./02. [PS5] Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2021.08.20}
04./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
05./05. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
Top 5
NSW - 4
PS5 - 1
(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 35, 2021 (30 Aug - 5 Sep)
01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
02./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
03./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
04./05. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15}
05./00. [NSW] Rune Factory 5 <SLG> (Sega) {2021.09.02}
Top 5
NSW - 5
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Media Create Sales Week 35, 2021 (30 Aug - 5 Sep)
01./00. [NSW] Rune Factory 5 <SLG> (Sega) {2021.09.02}
02./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
03./02. [PS5] Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2021.08.20}
04./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
05./05. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
Top 5
NSW - 4
PS5 - 1
(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 35, 2021 (30 Aug - 5 Sep)
01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
02./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
03./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
04./05. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15}
05./00. [NSW] Rune Factory 5 <SLG> (Sega) {2021.09.02}
Top 5
NSW - 5
MediaCreate 8 月 30 日～9 月 5 日一週銷售排行榜 《符文工廠 5》新作登場
巴哈姆特 GNN 與日本遊戲業界分析公司 MediaCreate 合作，每週定期刊載由 MediaCreate 調查與統計的日本、台灣與韓國地區家用遊樂器主機遊戲軟體的一週銷售排行榜，供玩家參考。 《符文工廠 5》 當週只有台韓有一款新作遊戲入榜，是 5 月已經率先在日本推出的《符文工廠 5》的中韓文版。除此之外則都是前幾週或更早推出的已上市作品。前
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Thanks for the quick response! Yeah, the 400k from Japan + 1.081 million for US/EU are the last known figures I could find as well.
All right, let's take a crack at this regardless:
The chart above takes three figures into account to try and break sales down by region:
1. Worldwide shipment figures (provided by Namco in the case of Symphonia and Vesperia). In the case of Zestiria, I've had to take an educated guess. Taking into account all the other data for the game, I've assumed 1.7 million, which would put it just behind ToD's 1.72 million as the fourth highest-selling Tales game.2. Whatever data is available for Japan, whether it's a last-known shipment figure or retail sales figure from Famitsu.3. Asia sales back-calculated by subtracting Western and Japanese sales from the worldwide sales.
Unsurprisingly, The West™ does account for an increasingly high proportion of sales. Arise will probably show us what all these years of building the brand up outside Japan has amounted to. At this point, it's safe to assume it's going to see very healthy western sales. Asia growth should be interesting to see, too.
(Again, this is just ballpark figures to try and give us a sense of what sort of trends we're seeing. Entirely possible I've missed something in the chart, since I literally threw this together in 20 minutes. Feel free to correct if anybody has updated information.)
The worldwide numbers for Symphonia and Vesperia are rubbish and shouldn't ever be used and/or with a big asterisk mentioning how this is combining sales of original release, ports, and remaster + subsequent ports of said remaster all of that accross a full decade.
Decent good news all things considered if Arise does cross 200k retail FW, I don't think I would have bet on it a few weeks ago, decline might end up being less dramatic than expected
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GEO stores: Week 36, 2021 (Sep 6 - Sep 12)
01./00. [PS4] Tales of Arise <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980)
02./00. [NSW] WarioWare: Get It Together! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2021.09.10} (¥4.980)
03./00. [PS5] Tales of Arise <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980)
04./01. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
05./00. [PS4] NBA 2K22 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥7.000)
06./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
07./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
08./00. [NSW] Ys IX: Monstrum Nox <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2021.09.09} (¥6.980)
08./06. [PS4] Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon <ADV> (Aniplex) {2021.08.26} (¥7.000)
10./00. [NSW] NBA 2K22 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥6.000)
Top 10
NSW - 6
PS4 - 3
PS5 - 1
"This week, the new titles ranked high.
Among them Tales of Arise, which won 1st and 3rd place, is currently the most sold PlayStation title in 2021. It has a very good word of mouth and is a highly satisfying work.
In addition, we expect that WarioWare: Get It Together! which won 2nd place will become an evergreen title at an affordable price.
We hope that new titles will continue to drive the market."
01./00. [PS4] Tales of Arise <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980)
02./00. [NSW] WarioWare: Get It Together! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2021.09.10} (¥4.980)
03./00. [PS5] Tales of Arise <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980)
04./01. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
05./00. [PS4] NBA 2K22 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥7.000)
06./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
07./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
08./00. [NSW] Ys IX: Monstrum Nox <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2021.09.09} (¥6.980)
08./06. [PS4] Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon <ADV> (Aniplex) {2021.08.26} (¥7.000)
10./00. [NSW] NBA 2K22 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥6.000)
Top 10
NSW - 6
PS4 - 3
PS5 - 1
"This week, the new titles ranked high.
Among them Tales of Arise, which won 1st and 3rd place, is currently the most sold PlayStation title in 2021. It has a very good word of mouth and is a highly satisfying work.
In addition, we expect that WarioWare: Get It Together! which won 2nd place will become an evergreen title at an affordable price.
We hope that new titles will continue to drive the market."
Rumored price cut was a price adjustement specific for Europe based on exchange rate and the alignment with the price of the new OLED model.
It does read as if ToA has outsold every (RE8 mainly) game LTD, but it could just mean biggest FW. We shall see come Thursday I guess. Maybe ToA on PS4 alone is close to 200k
Yes (unless something went wrong with translation). So at least at GEO, RE8 sold less since launch than ToA in 4 days.
Was utterly baffled by this rumoured price drop, but yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Switch has always been slightly more expensive in Europe (though many/most retailers ended up selling it for less than 329.99€).
Currently, it (Arise) has become the best selling PS title of year 2021.
Typically 年度 is used for fiscal/academic year, so starting in April. But who knows if that's how they meant it.
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It does say that. GEO was also massively overstocked with RE8.
I was guilty of thinking Monster Hunter Rise would be the second coming of Portable 3rd in Japan with digital included. Now matching 4's 4.1 million seems like the safer bet.
On the other hand if Tales of Arise can pull a hat trick and get within striking distance of Berseria that would be something.
At the end of the day both games could show fluctuations in install base don't matter if your audience is dedicated enough.
On the other hand if Tales of Arise can pull a hat trick and get within striking distance of Berseria that would be something.
At the end of the day both games could show fluctuations in install base don't matter if your audience is dedicated enough.
Uhhh.... MHR you compared to Japan's top selling MH, and were disappointed it did not get there. Ok. But then you go on to compare ToA not to the highest selling Tales in Japan, but just the latest, and if it reaches that "that would be something", and would show that fluctuations in install base don't matter (?)
If you compare ToA to Berseria, you should compare MHR to Generations, and going by that MH saw an explosion on the Switch in Japan.
I compared Rise to the best-selling MH because of BotW, Smash, ACNH and Momotaro. The hardware sales made it easy for me to entertain that idea.
PlayStation hardware and software sales are in the toilet so I set the bar much lower. So yes it's relative.
That is precisely what the chart specifies. The point of the chart was simply to illustrate what sort of split Tales has seen across various territories over the years.
SMT hasn't proved anything though while Persona series has proved it from P3 to P4 to P5.
So I been seeing so much praise for ToA, Seems like sales on steam are pretty good. Arise should do 200k+ in japan. It's NoA that'll have to pull through to hit a million right? We only got UK numbers but UK never paints a good picture especially with jrpgs
Where is this estimate from?
PAL Charts - Week 35, 2021 | Minecraft Switch back at #1, The Medium debuting at #36 and WRC 10 at #40 in UK...and more! Sales
I think every multiplat has sold significantly better on PS5 this year, from Hitman onwards.
www.resetera.com
It was estimated as <6.5k here
More than 15k?
Isn't it less than 6,5k at retail?
www.gamesindustry.biz
Isn't it less than 6,5k at retail?
Wario Ware takes No.1 as seven new games enter the Top 40 | UK Boxed Charts
Wario Ware: Get It Together was the best-selling boxed game at UK retail last week, according to the latest GfK data.Th…
www.gamesindustry.biz
Where is this estimate from?
PAL Charts - Week 35, 2021 | Minecraft Switch back at #1, The Medium debuting at #36 and WRC 10 at #40 in UK...and more! Sales
I think every multiplat has sold significantly better on PS5 this year, from Hitman onwards.
It was estimated as less <6.5k here
was under the idea scarlet nexus did 7k, not 3k.
Uk loves digital even more than I thought, Xbox wise is natural as series x are super rare to come by but still, it's a overall thing.
How? From Bruno
I just noticed Wario Ware: Get It boxed launch sales are below that of Miitopia, I had missed this piece of information since my eyes went directly to Tales of Arise paragraph.
In other words, Tales of Arise <6.500 units.
If it really does do 1 million that fast, they definitely would I think.
Bandai: "We are proud to announce 1mil copies of ToA have sold WW without any help from the Nintendo Switch in under a week"
Nintendo Fans: "With a switch sku it could of sold 1mil in under a day"
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There's an overestimation and an underestimation of Tales of Arise, more so the former, not so much the latter except from a few peeps That are passerby posters.
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Famitsu Sales: Week 34, 2016 (Aug 15 - Aug 21)
01./00. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 160.040 / NEW <80-100%>
03./00. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 74.052 / NEW <80-100%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 26, 2018 (Jun 25 - Jul 01)
08./00. [NSW] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2018.06.28} (¥6.980) - 6.817 / NEW <40-60%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 31, 2018 (Jul 30 - Aug 05)
03./00. [3DS] WarioWare Gold <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.08.02} (¥4.980) - 34.717 / NEW <40-60%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2020 (Aug 31 - Sep 06)
07./00. [PS4] NBA 2K21 # <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2020.09.04} (¥7.000) - 8.541 / NEW <40-60%>
26./00. [NSW] NBA 2K21 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2020.09.04} (¥6.000) - 2.489 / NEW <20-40%>
01./00. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 160.040 / NEW <80-100%>
03./00. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 74.052 / NEW <80-100%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 26, 2018 (Jun 25 - Jul 01)
08./00. [NSW] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2018.06.28} (¥6.980) - 6.817 / NEW <40-60%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 31, 2018 (Jul 30 - Aug 05)
03./00. [3DS] WarioWare Gold <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.08.02} (¥4.980) - 34.717 / NEW <40-60%>
Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2020 (Aug 31 - Sep 06)
07./00. [PS4] NBA 2K21 # <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2020.09.04} (¥7.000) - 8.541 / NEW <40-60%>
26./00. [NSW] NBA 2K21 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2020.09.04} (¥6.000) - 2.489 / NEW <20-40%>
To be fair, Tales of Arise is out of stock in Amazon.jp (PS4 version).
I checked Yodobashi Camera and it's fully available there, so at the moment just seems an Amazon's problem.
To be fair, even in US from what we can see on Amazon best selling list, it isn't setting charts on fire there
It's cool. I just took a shot in the dark based on how the sales of multiple systems in their first post-GW week compared to the average over the months afterward was frequently not significantly different (at least under normal circumstances) and just went with it. Sometimes the difference is pretty big, so I was fully prepared for the possibility that I could have been off by a good bit more than I was. The average over the past several months being less than 3% different from Week 19 isn't bad.
As for the OLED, it's a bit hard to tell if its announcement had a negative impact on sales. We rarely see a new model of a system announced so far in advance (the Xbox One X is the only other example I can recall). Normally, a hardware revision is announced no more than a month ahead of its release, and when they do negatively impact sales of the older model pre-release, it's pretty pronounced, as we saw right before the releases of the PS3 & PS4 Slim, the DSi, the New 3DS, and the PSP-2000. Sometimes they have no real impact on sales, though, as we saw with the GBA SP and Switch Lite. The Switch's sales have been trending downward, but it's been gradual, plus they were trending downward before the OLED was announced as well.
I did mention that, though it seems like a moot point now that even though the rumored price cut was real, it was Europe-only (unless they have some sort of surprise for NA & Japan).