I wonder if Chris would be interested in making something like a Discord server so that he could moderate it himself? Wouldn't be an exact alternative but still… I'm so salty about this.
I don't even know what else exists beyond Era and Discord anymore nowadays lol
You've been actively trolling these threads for months so you can cool down with trying to be the level-headed one here.
We only need Famitsu to stop sharing numbers and then we'll achieve the ultimate level of discussion! 😂i have no doubts the discourse levels will increase and that these threads are going to be a haven of enlightenment and accurate sales discussion from now on.
I eagerly await the « Final Fantasy VIIR has sold more than 10 million units » posts now
It's not just the one day ban, it is a lot more on top of the one-day banThat's unfortunate if true but I'd say that's a bit of an overreaction to a one day ban.
Yeah as if that helped over the last year.If you think someone's trolling, report them. It's pretty much the general forum rules...
After all the lack of data leads to better discussion as evidenced by the NPD and Pal threadsWe only need Famitsu to stop sharing numbers and then we'll achieve the ultimate level of discussion! 😂
I see. Thanks for the info :)Well looking at WW sales it was a good launch, but there was discussion regarding how the opening week for Japan was, since it debuted physically under Berseria, which was a lower point for the series.
Thats interesting. I am curious if things can change with Metroid Dread. Thanks for the info :)Sakamoto's explanation:
"In Japan, the people who are into Metroid tend to be hardcore game fans. It's not a series that's necessarily found acceptance in Japan outside of that niche. You can also say that it's the same as how science fiction is embraced in the United States compared to Japan. Science fiction seems to be a niche genre in Japan as a whole, where it seems to have found more mainstream success in the US."
I see, thats interesting. Maybe it can be an indication of increased popularity of how Metroid Dread will do, indeed. Thanks for the info :)Anecdotal, but I'm having a hard time finding a physical copy of Metroid Fusion. Any copy that is put on Yahoo Auctions or Mercari for under thirty dollars seems to go in about 2 or 3 days.
Take this with a huge grain of salt, obviously.
Ah ok, i understand. I think maybe that i misunderstood you earlier, sorry. When you said "you really can't make this up", i thought maybe that you meant that it was surprising that all of this happened due to ToA being released, so i just go a bit curious if anything special had happened in regards to ToA, and if the situation was surprising (i also didnt read all the discussion in the thread around this, so i missed much, unfortunately). But i see what you mean in this reply, and i think what you say here sounds like a good summary of the overall situation, i agree. Thanks for the detailed answer :)Im not completely sure of that myself, since i decided to not participate once i saw a user claiming that many of the regulars in this thread would be hoping for Tales of Arise to fail, bomb or get bad reviews. I knew what time it was by then and nothing good would come from the following pages.
From the outside looking in it seems like ToA was the perfect case for the clash about the same old discussions and persons being on the forefront in this thread.
A. Declining franchise in Japan, that might benefit from a Switch release
B. Japanese sales being just okay, despite a successful global launch.
C. Harada and in general comments regarding the japanese top producers that refuse to be on Switch for various reasons.
This is just my personal take and it might be bias. But based on this thread being focused on japanese sales it was fair to to call out ToA for the average domestic performance, even when it did good overall with being multiplattform and much stronger in the west compared to past releases. I think that some people have a difficult time with a game or producers of games being called out in this thread - despite the game being a quality release and selling well globally, because the focus is on the Japanese performance mostly.
And i get that, i feel the same way when someone would take the UK performance of some japanese niche game to state the game is an overall flop. Here is the issue though, most members here make it very clear that they are reviewing and commenting on the japanese performance in comparison to past bigger Tales of releases.
This is also just a subplot of the fact that Nintendo is really dominating the japanese console market right now and most of the regulars here seem to be Nintendo fans or at least Switch owners that are much more open to the plattform getting support, its market position would imply. So they are less likely to give decling franchises as pass, when they do everything to improve sales except going for the most forward path of being on a very popular plattform.
Well at least thats my take on it, despite the language used with the market being this loop sided in favor of one company certain members will just not feel welcomed here. Especially if they can get fact checked fast, so yea this can result in a less welcoming atmosphere compared to other sales threads with less available data for people that just wanna cheer on their console or game series of choice.
ToA was always gonna be an issue because it represents a lot of the main issues of these threads, that probably should have been adressed before its release.
I dunno. I only peek in here from time to time out of curiosity, but even I know that these threads have been a troll hotspot for years, with three users in particular sticking out and only being permabanned for completely different reasons.That's unfortunate if true but I'd say that's a bit of an overreaction to a one day ban.
I don't think I have made a grand total of more than 5 posts across MC threads, but I've been silently following them for years. This is just sad.
Chris is officially done with ResetERA. He's not coming back.
That's it folks.
I'll be watching what Hiska does but it looks like MC threads are prety much done for.Welp, guess that's the end of salesera. If Chris is gone I don't see the point of sticking around MC threads, especially with the new guidelines. Many thanks to Chris for his work over the years.
Will miss all the salesera regulars. If Chris is going somewhere else and you find out, I'd appreciate a pm.
Lurkers are rising up. We could use some fresh blood in here. Great to see you all posting and I'm hoping that will continue.
Yeah, I totally agree. Sales discussion/analysis, graphs and all is the only thing I read here along with Direct threads and lately Future Nintendo Hardware threads.I just want to thank Chris and all the other people for their deep analysis and commentary on sales data over the past years. It feels like yesterday as they all moved here from neogaf. I really enjoyed the discussions.
Fuck. Just... fuck.Chris is officially done with ResetERA. He's not coming back.
That's it folks.
I'd argue cvxfreak having a more active role in moderating the thread going forward could warrant a bit more patience from regulars before cutting ties, considering his history with this business and these threads.
I wish I could like posts LmfaoMatsuyama-san is just too powerful for this thread. Chris simply was no match for his level headed analysis of the japanese market (if you understand japanese I encourage you to read his book, I heard the Famitsu write up doesn't do it justice).
Biggest mistake of the staff team was to not assign a mod for these thread right after Nibel quit. It definitely feels like the recent decisions were made by someone who is not well-versed with the specific dynamics and the history of these threads.
Even back on GAF, there was Nirolak, who was a mod & a big part of the MC threads.
Whatever happened to him? He suddenly stopped posting.
Biggest mistake of the staff team was to not assign a mod for these thread right after Nibel quit. It definitely feels like the recent decisions were made by someone who is not well-versed with the specific dynamics and the history of these threads.
Even back on GAF, there was Nirolak, who was a mod & a big part of the MC threads.
Same would honestly love it as I really do enjoy reading his opinions on the Japanese market.Welp, guess that's the end of salesera. If Chris is gone I don't see the point of sticking around MC threads, especially with the new guidelines. Many thanks to Chris for his work over the years.
Will miss all the salesera regulars. If Chris is going somewhere else and you find out, I'd appreciate a pm.
Unless Chris and the other regulars come back this thread will more then likely be the last I ever post on any Sales Era topic. So that's gonna be a no from meLurkers are rising up. We could use some fresh blood in here. Great to see you all posting and I'm hoping that will continue.
Also left ERA. I miss his insights into game studios through job listings. He was the one who predicted CD Avengers would be a GaaS title back then. Sigh.............
If someone is taking over, they would also need to archive/compile data, and that's a big task.Dang this is really sad to hear. It's a shame how many people get chased away from this place. Chris will definitely be missed. Hopefully someone else takes over Media Create threads.