Yes, but he's a HEThe guy in the whitehouse lived in a literal golden tower. On the coast.
Just sounds like you're saying voters are either "white liberals"/"white capitalists" or the black community. And I'm still confused about this "liberals splitting the vote" line of thinking you posted.All I said was Warren needs to Black vote to win the primaries. Don't really know whats hard to understand.
I think she's a weaker national candidate with low crossover appeal. She's the walking archetype of a coastal elite, ivory-tower liberal. She was even a Harvard professor. She's easily characterized as being an economic radical. She's passionate and a fighter though and can probably win the popular vote, so she has a decent chance vs. Trump.
The whole field is weak and everyone has glaring weaknesses, so it's tough to single anyone out as being a bad candidate since they're all deficient in some large way. Biden polls strong but he's very undisciplined and not quick on his feet and could underperform fairly dramatically.
She's way too liberal for the crucial American swing states.
His policies haven't impacted the average American financially just yet and the economy is doing well. On top of that he's been bailing out smaller businesses over the last few months because of the trade war which no doubt will spread all over the states among the blue collared workers - Donald Trump has our back will be the takeaway thought even though he is to blame in the first place. Hes reducing troops in the Middle East and avoided getting into major conflicts so at the end of the day for the average person it's going to come down to voting for a boring type politician that's Harvard educated and incredibly liberal or the class clown hoping that the economy and the current state of affairs continue.
That's how I see things shaking up. Just remember Bush won a second term and he was a disaster for both lol
I don't know how you thought that. I also don't under why my original comment matters now. But I was talking about the liberals who are afraid of progressive candidates (Bernie/Warren), and try to create a narrative of division between the two candidates. After watching their last debate, it showed me that they will stand together to fight the enemies of progressive policy.Just sounds like you're saying voters are either "white liberals"/"white capitalists" or the black community. And I'm still confused about this "liberals splitting the vote" line of thinking you posted.
I'm a Bernie guy but I'd be fine, happy even, with a Warren presidency.
I thought that because you seemed to be setting up a binary.I don't know how you thought that. I also don't under why my original comment matters now. But I was talking about the liberals who are afraid of progressive candidates (Bernie/Warren), and try to create a narrative of division between the two candidates. After watching their last debate, it showed me that they will stand together to fight the enemies of progressive policy.
They seemed to be the ones trying and failing to set up that fight.
Indeed I did.
Ah yes, because party unity must always matter when it comes to the left candidates despite centrists explicitly stating otherwise.A left candidate with an even more left VP would be terrible for party unity, Warren/Beto would be much better.
Ah yes, because party unity must always matter when it comes to the left candidates despite centrists explicitly stating otherwise.
Seriously, you gain nothing electorally from it.Lol a Warren Sanders ticket would never happen and is a terrible pointless idea.
The Democratic Party is made of centrists and leftists, moderates and progressives, and everything in between. In 2020 we're going to be up against an actual white nationalist who will be able to win the electoral college with a deficit of 5 million votes and has the bonus of incumbency. I'm not saying we should forego a candidate like Warren to win the nomination, but we cannot risk losing independents in battleground states - Bernie could be the lever that does this were he to take the VP slot, as it could signal the appearance of a dramatic leftward shift for the party that not enough people are onboard with. Taking a more moderate candidate into the VP slot would ultimately be inconsequential and could help form a consensus among the party. Why do you think Obama selected someone like Biden?Ah yes, because party unity must always matter when it comes to the left candidates despite centrists explicitly stating otherwise.
Biden no where fucking near it. Sanders/warren in any combination
My feeling is Warren/Buttigieg.
I know you meant redundant in a bad way but these are both positives to me. If I can sneak two socdems into the White House through the electorate I'm 100% going to try, lol.
I know you meant redundant in a bad way but these are both positives to me. If I can sneak two socdems into the White House through the electorate I'm 100% going to try, lol.
A hyperprogressive P/VP combo with a more moderate Senate could not be significantly different from a moderate P/VP combo with the current Senate.It would actually probably defeat the purpose as you'd get two traditional Dems in their place in the Senate.
God I hope so.
But also this.
Disapproval rating and people voting against him are two different things. We basically need another massive wave of people voting in 2020 to offset the old, reliable GOP base that would vote in droves for Hitler if he had an (R) by his name.
I feel like she got that out of the way as soon as possible, so by this point people stop caring about it. Not a bad strategy if that's what happened, since it's such a non-issue now.After the DNA blunder do people really think Warren has what it takes to beat Trump?
How are they vastly different...?I don't know why people keep saying this, their coalitions are vastly different and both candidates are weak where the other is strong electorally speaking. kind of feels like the electability argument where people just sort of accept it
I wouldn't say "vastly", but Warren's base skews white/educated/rich while Bernie's base is more multi-cultural/some college/lower-middle class.
Lol I remember people saying this stuff in 2006 about how America would never vote for a black or woman president. Yet the popular vote has gone to one of the two for the last 3 Presidential elections. It's clear the American public doesn't have a problem with voting for a woman or minority.I'd be lying if I thought Americans would vote a women for president
If anything, the fact that Trump is obsessed with the "Pocahontas" thing shows how little he has against her. It's like Obama's birth certificate, where the only people who care would never have voted for a Democrat in the first place.After the DNA blunder do people really think Warren has what it takes to beat Trump?
He knows Obama.
Strange analogyBiden is like the moon to Obama's sun. The moon generates no light of its own. All its light comes from reflecting the light of the sun.
This analogy is unfair to both the sun and moon. Forgive my blaspheme, gods of the heavens.
Why would he drop out when on aggregate he is tied with Warren for 2nd place and is ahead of her in other polls, has a huge pool of volunteers and individual donors, has higher favorability, stuck his neck out for the progressive platform when it was unpopular, and it's August 2019? Most of the candidates are running on their own framework of Bernie's controversial platform. Warren is supporting Medicare for All completely including ending private health insurance.Sanders won't drop out so Warren will always be handicapped in the early primaries.
I like astronomy, sue me.