Sanders won't drop out so Warren will always be handicapped in the early primaries.
Would his voters necessarily go to Warren though? As much as that makes sense ideologically to me, do we know where voters second choice preferences flow to?
Sanders won't drop out so Warren will always be handicapped in the early primaries.
His second choice voters go to Biden.Would his voters necessarily go to Warren though? As much as that makes sense ideologically to me, do we know where voters second choice preferences flow to?
His second choice voters go to Biden.
A lot of people meme Bernie as this ultra-left candidate only extremely online leftist millennials support but his support base actually has a lot in common with Biden's support base: Working class whites who take comfort in Presidents who're old white men.
You guys who say Bernie should drop out to bump Warren are wild. All it would do is make Biden even more untouchable.
Ok so that's from February and Warren has had a good few months campaigning, so assuming her appeal to Sanders voters has improved that's still a really big problem since even if she got 100% of Sanders support from this poll, Biden would still be ahead.
Biden's support really has to erode of its own volition for Warren or Sanders to have a chance. Fingers crossed.
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Nope, she still has more work to do, she can benefit a lot from Harris and Buttigieg dropping out but very little from Bernie dropping out.
Both were traumatic events in our history, for different reasonsMan, I remember watching that needle on election night 2016 just as vividly as I remember where I was on 9/11.
Trump's just going to do the Pocahontas thing every day against her, going to be annoying as hell
I'd be lying if I thought Americans would vote a women for president
It's seems like we keep being forgotten in this discussion.Sanders and Biden are also way more popular with African American and Latinx voters than Warren. Sanders also has more name recognition which may also be a reason he is the 2nd choice for Biden voters beyond the White Working Class voters.
True. Im looking forward to the thread with the single poll showing Sanders in the lead, and then setting a timer until said thread is locked.
Well, yeah, because Trump's an incumbent and has had remarkably steady (dis)approval - including a hard, unyielding 52%+ that hate his guts.
Yes, anything can happen, but he's not favored.
All that matters is how popular he is in the five states that matter...
Which is why I still worry that Biden is the best choice, but she's been awesome since this primary started and is definitely my personal choice.
In which he is... underwater, considerably.
-14 Wisconsin
-11 Michigan
-8 Pennsylvania
Good to know, assuming that polling has vastly improved in these states since 2016. I recall Clinton being up big in WI and MI up to election night
Trump's campaign should be shitting bricks if these numbers hold.
Nice bump for Warren. She may be able to pull through.
The real story in this poll is Trump's head-to-head matchups. Below forty against all of them.
Also, looking at the favorability ratings, Bernie is still 2nd, so I'm not taking this poll as much of a blow against him.
Nah that's mostly the era bubble talking(it was trending 1 YouTube for a while. The reception from people who watched it were positive. If anything it allowed Bernie to talk about the issues in America for an 1:30, and explain his positions. It makes no sense to use one poll to come to that conclusion. I was actually surprised how smooth it went, and as someone that doesn't want to do over again he comes off as stupid. But the interview was pretty innocent.I think going on Rogan likely hurt Bernie. No progressive watches/listens to Rogan. He is a racist.
This is pretty much how I feel, I truly think Trump's going to flop during the debates. Outside of his base no one's going to look at him positively, he's achieved nothing great. I also think a lot of Americans are probably tired of hearing about him.Yeah, Trump's brand is toast. He got elected because a lot of folks (not his base, which is no where near enough to even sniff the EC victory he got) thought he'd be the ultimate passionless pragmatist who would run the country like a business but he's behaved extremely emotional and has no vision for the future. What's his plan for the next 4 years? He hasn't put forth anything. Not surprised it's getting worse.
I'd be lying if I thought Americans would vote a women for president
I wouldn't say "vastly", but Warren's base skews white/educated/rich while Bernie's base is more multi-cultural/some college/lower-middle class.
Reducing them both down to "old white NE" underestimates their synergy.
Buttigieg is a better partner on the Age & Gender axis.
Kamala is a better partner on the Race & Education axis.
Bernie is her only good partner on the Income axis.
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Nope, she still has more work to do, she can benefit a lot from Harris and Buttigieg dropping out but very little from Bernie dropping out.
It is getting closer though:
If there's a poll with Sanders in the lead, go ahead and make a thread for it. No one's stopping you.True. Im looking forward to the thread with the single poll showing Sanders in the lead, and then setting a timer until said thread is locked.
Trump's "wins" as President have amounted to cutting taxes and putting a rapist on the court.Mueller Probe did its damage, true. But the last year, it's been his anchor. It's been a rallying cry that he could use to make him look victimized and discredit media coverage of him while distracting from the fact he's not actually doing any work. "NO COLLUSION" "NO OBSTRUCTION" he could lie about it just like that. I'm so glad we moved past that. Now, the focus is not on what he did, but what he is doing. A month ago, Trump had his 'best week ever' when Mueller testified. Since the party more or less signaled they are moving on, the brand of his presidency is falling apart. He has no vision or goals. He tried to lean into super racism in desperation, and it led to a Trump Terrorist killing inspired by his racism. The timing is no coincidence. Now, he's trying to buy fucking GREENLAND because he has no idea what to do. We're never gonna squeeze a W out of that lemon, but since then, it's been non-stop Ls for Trump simply because we are finally paying attention in the media to the Ls he takes every, single, day.
Great poll. Love seeing Elizabeth climbing. Thrilled to see Sanders dropping.
They are the closest two candidates to each other in terms of policy sets. If you love warren, then Bernie shouldn't be a problematic candidate. We should be so lucky as to have either of them as the nominee. We could certainly do worse. Being THRILLED that Bernie is sliding in support makes no sense for a Warren supporter at this stage in the primary. Once Biden is gone, feel free to get nasty, but he's the problem for Bernie or Warren right now. Not each other
I'm already a Sanders supporter so doesnt matter but I watch Rogan sometimes. Just depends on the guest. Anyway no it didn't hurt at all. I'm sure a vast majority of those who were concerned about the interview hate Sanders anyway. It helped immensely imo. There were tons of comments from republicans basically saying they were glad to hear about the real Bernie Sanders and how he's changed their minds. The video is nearing 9 million views and the comments are like a breath of fresh air considering they are Youtube comments. There's a ton of positivity toward him there.I think going on Rogan likely hurt Bernie. No progressive watches/listens to Rogan. He is a racist.
Well, it also makes no sense for Biden to be the second choice amongst the majority of Bernie supporters, but here we are. The only reason is the obvious one.
They are the closest two candidates to each other in terms of policy sets. If you love warren, then Bernie shouldn't be a problematic candidate. We should be so lucky as to have either of them as the nominee. We could certainly do worse. Being THRILLED that Bernie is sliding in support makes no sense for a Warren supporter at this stage in the primary. Once Biden is gone, feel free to get nasty, but he's the problem for Bernie or Warren right now. Not each other
Yeah this gets old quick and it's 90% from the usual suspects that just can't stand Sanders. I'm reading the thread and I see almost all Sanders supporters here also like Warren. Meanwhile a bunch of the apparent Warren supporters just cant stand Bernie. Nevermind that they're extremely similar on nearly everything. Nevermind what's actually for the good of the country because fuck Bernie Sanders for reasons.Fuck the liberals trying to split the progressive vote too. I'll say it again. Warren/Bernie.
Yeah this gets old quick and it's 90% from the usual suspects that just can't stand Sanders. I'm reading the thread and I see almost all Sanders supporters here also like Warren. Meanwhile a bunch of the apparent Warren supporters just cant stand Bernie. Nevermind that they're extremely similar on nearly everything. Nevermind what's actually for the good of the country because fuck Bernie Sanders for reasons.
It's irritating.
It's pretty obvious now, to be honest it not even worth it to call it out anymore because all they're going to say is we have a persecution complex. some people see Bernie as a sexist and racist and yet he seems to poll really well with women and minorities. And as you said every person who supported Bernie in here has also said they supported/will support Warren myself included. I'm not going to let those people control the narrative tho I'm still team progressive.Yeah this gets old quick and it's 90% from the usual suspects that just can't stand Sanders. I'm reading the thread and I see almost all Sanders supporters here also like Warren. Meanwhile a bunch of the apparent Warren supporters just cant stand Bernie. Nevermind that they're extremely similar on nearly everything. Nevermind what's actually for the good of the country because fuck Bernie Sanders for reasons.
It's irritating.