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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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Just not in my budget. Plan to pick up a PS5 next year as well as a new projector, if the right one releases. I have a PC for work, but thats work only no games. Aside from that I use an iMac. Thats why I am > . <
You sure can play it on such a config but don't expect to get the same image quality like you see in the videos ...
"If you remember the beginning of this generation we were a hundred dollars more expensive and yes, we were less powerful. And we started Project Scarlett with this leadership team in place with a goal of having market success."
"Spencer thinks there are plenty of generations of Xbox ahead."
"We will talk about the SKU lineup and how it works," says Spencer. "I think the root principle of we don't want to confuse people, we share that."
This all sounds to me like both PS5 and Scarlett will launch at $399.No way MS wants Scarlett to be $100 more expensive again.Fun times ahead!
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Well. We know they are currently in position #2. He says they won't be out of position.
So that means they remain in position #2.
PS5 9001 tflops more powerful confirmed.
More than 1 SKU not off the table .... a new cycle of speculation has begun ... the Lockhart Wars ... now in a ResetEra thread near you ...
I wouldn't doubt that Scarlett will be more competitive price-wise. You can say a lot of things about Spencer, but what you can't say is that he isn't cognizant of the issues that plagued the Xbox One at the start of this generation. The Xbox One came out $100 more expensive than the PS4 and was outclassed in power at the same time. That's a 1-2 whammy that's hard to recover from coming out the gate, doubly so if you don't have compelling 1st party content to get people on board despite those stumbling blocks.
Wouldn't surprise me if multiple SKUs = 1 with and 1 without disc drive. In my opinion the XB1S All Digital is quite obvious a test to see how well such SKUs perform compared to the regular SKU which includes a disc drive.
I am not so sure.But it seems to me that MS will not again launch more expensive console then PS.As Spencer said:"we want to compete"
Basically what he is saying both consoles will likely be priced the same and perform with a minimal performance delta, neither know for sure which one will have the lead yet so he is careful with his wording, but this does seem to confirm what Klee was saying about how both are probably extremely close, which is only a good thing.
Unless either party is willing to take a huge loss on each unit sold I'm expecting both to be extremely similar in power at $499. The one way I could see Microsoft undercutting Sony a bit though is by releasing a 2nd, digital only SKU without a disc drive.
Indeed.Pricing will be very interesting...they must have some plan in reserve for $399 price.
While those Game Pass games where big to me my biggest takeaway was that you can play your library free on xCloud. Same goes with Game Pass. Disclaimer: If I understood it all correctly.
you had said at e3 that the ps5 devkit rumor was 13 tflops. did you hear that from devs or just out on some forums? our very own sales inside Benji had also mentioned 13 flops before deleting his tweet.
thanks.
Actually reading the full context in the article and the writer is conflating two different things (2 Scarlett SKUs alongside 2 Xbox SKUs). The former could be a big problem where as the latter isn't IMO and similar will apply with PS5 as they'll no doubt be PS4 and Pro alongside PS5 at launch.
A bit of context was missing in the quote
So maybe not multiple SKUs of Scarlett. Just the whole Xbox family.
BitsandBytes Dude stop copying my posts! 😂😂😂
So maybe not multiple SKUs of Scarlett. Just the whole Xbox family.
BitsandBytes Dude stop copying my posts! 😂😂😂
Not all of your library, it's per game basis.
And if you don't have game pass you will need to subscribe to xcloud to use it, otherwise if you own game pass then any GP game on xcloud is playable on the cloud.
what makes you think MS doesnt know about Sony?
Why do you think they went from 'We will set the benchmark in console gaming' to 'the most powerful WE have ever built' in one year? surely, they realized that Sony had them beat and they would look silly making that claim again.
and devs have had devkits for months. they know the target specs of both consoles. everyone knows 90% of the specs. Clearly, Phill knows as well otherwise he wouldnt so confident about matching sony on price AND Power.
Benji was just repeating a recent reddit rumour, Benji does not have any insider info on next gen.
Sorry. I should have, and normally do, read the the full article first......
My main impression from this interview is that Spencer essentially admitted they are not globally competitive with $499 console.
Nooo, it was a joke. Hence my 😂😂😂. We're on the same thought track but you beat me to it twice now.
This. And by multiple SKUs he probably just means they are looking at, say, having an extra SKU with a bigger hard drive for example. Given hard drives have to be specialized apparently, it's possible they would release two different sizes. Such as 1TB and 2TB. But they don't want to appear as if they cost more than the competition.
So maybe they'll just not advertise the 2TB version up front. Like, announce the 1TB at $399, and then in the press release mention that there will also be a 2TB SKU for $449.
They're probably just looking at all the variations to include. Maybe they want to just make two prices. $399 and $499 and the $499 one is 2TB and includes a few premium things like a year of gamepass and a headset, or something like that. But maybe they want to avoid the look that $499 has.
Just remember SKU doesn't necessarily mean two distinct models basically.
a) of course only the games of your library that are supported by xCloud
b) That was the confusing part how they talked about it. I guess we will find out in more detail in a not far away future
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My guess is that post consoles end up around 10TF, 16GB Ram.
Yeah, I don't know if either of them is willing to risk going for $499 and being undercut by the other. Base price of $399 for both, likely.
How does one make that statement, what Phil said, without knowing what ps5 has or how much it will cost? As for the SKU line up, I'm thinking he means x one, x, and scarlett.
I am starting to think the $499 dream is dead, though.
Yeah,i never expected more then 16GB,i think some people who expect more then that will end up disappointed.
Yup.
After reading the article, it seems the sku stuff was about the whole Xbox family and not multiple skus of scarlett.
"We will not be out of position on power or price" - this statement most likely means scarlett is going to be priced same as ps5 and power wise close to PS5.
Looks like kleegamefan might be correct with his info, that both consoles are very close to each other.
Seems to be that my understanding was more accurate ...
From Xbox Wire:
I still think that's too little for a 7 year lifespan. 20GB for devs, 4GB for OS at least.
They won't because you're not getting anything less than 16GB of usable RAM
NVMe makes it uncomparable with current systems. When you have to cache assets in RAM because of slow HDDs, you waste a lot of RAM on just caching. Next gen consoles will fundamentally change that. If you can read at 4GB/s, you can fill ENTIRE RAM in 4 seconds (assuming 16GB). Contrast that with existing <100MB/s HDDs in the current consoles.
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