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[MaitreWakou]

Personally I'm really hype for Pikmin 3. I played it forever ago when it first released, honestly it'll just feel almost like a new game for me. I have almost 0 memories from it. Super hype.

3D World on the other hand, I know this game (just like every other 3D Mario games) almost by heart. I think in the last 3 years (2017, 2018, 2019) I've played it to completition each year ?
Definitely in 2018 (with my girlfriend, first time playing it completely in coop) and 2019 (redoing the whole game with Rosalina).

So I'm a bit less hype, but bring it on, it's a wonderful game that NEEDS to be on Switch ! Can't wait to replay it with my girlfriend. They'll probably add a new character tho, this is hype, wonder who it will be ! Wario ? Pauline ? Fucking Donkey Kong ?! (This would be awesome ! Maybe the closest we'll get to 3D Donkey Kong lol)

 

[Gartooth]

I don't mind 3DW coming this year, but it does make me incredibly anxious that there won't be a game from EPD Tokyo this year.

Give me Odyssey 2, Captain Toad 2, 3D DK, anything! They're my favorite Nintendo developer and make incredible 3D action games, and I'd die if they pulled a Retro Studios and disappeared.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'm more hyped for Pikmin 3 because I didn't get to play it much when I bought it. I heard so many good things and Emily said they're adding new single player content to this Switch version! 3D World I love, but I have to see if they add new levels. I have no one to play with this time

 

[Raccoon]

So, if SM3DW is coming to the Switch...I never played it. Same with Odyssey actually. What are the pros/cons of each?

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3D World plays like 2D Mario with another dimension. It has more involved platforming because of this, but it can also be difficult to parse out your jumps and see everything clearly. Recently, it has been heralded by some vocal members of the site as superior to Odyssey. It has a fantastic soundtrack.

Odyssey plays like Mario 64 crossed with a collectathon like Banjo-Kazooie. It has open spaces with a lot of content in a fewer number of worlds (15 levels iirc). Graphically it's less clean than 3D World but more detailed (specifically Mario himself looks a lot better in Odyssey). Mario controls like a dream, with a lot of fluid jumps and movement.

Both are pretty good games, but the one that I own on Switch I played two years ago, and the one that's coming out this year I played 7 years ago, so I'm a bit biased. To you, it'll depend on personal preference.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

imo odyssey 2 and pokemon (gen 4 remakes?) will be their big games for 2021. odyssey 2 in october, pokemon in november.

 

[AllChan7]

Correct

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Nice
So no idea of what this Direct might have yet? Like I highly doubt they show off BoTW2 but maybe some smaller stuff for the first half of 2020 and one big announcement for the later half

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think the Odyssey team will have a brand new game this year in the size of a Captain Toad.

 

[Dragoncaine]

I say this as someone who is optimistic about this year.

My only concern about 2020 is that Nintendo might lean a little too hard on re-releases of older stuff as a crutch to fill out their calendar. Nintendo has already officially announced Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and Xenoblade Chronicles 1 remaster/remake for this year. I can also confirm that Nintendo has (at least) two more unannounced Wii U ports. They are not difficult to guess because there aren't many Wii U games left to port.

Also, if you aren't into Animal Crossing, then the first 3-4 months of 2020 won't be super amazing for you personally. Nintendo is obviously treating Animal Crossing as their big March title, so that's something people will just need to accept. And as we saw with 2019, Nintendo likes to dump most of their biggest releases in the second half of the year. Which typically makes the pacing for the first half of the year slower by comparison.

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Thanks so much for keeping us informed, Emily. Sounds like the status quo for Nintendo, which to me isn't inherently a bad thing. I'm excited to try my first Animal Crossing game in March, I didn't own a Wii U so I'm really looking forward to Pikmin and 3D World, and I'm still excited at the prospect of the (hopefully) terrific H2 Nintendo will have in 2020. As long as we have a bombshell or two to look forward to this year, then I'm sold.

 

[bixente]

If I liked Stardew Valley (mainly the farming aspect and less so the social part), would I like animal Crossing? Never tried the series before.

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Have you played Doraemon Story of Seasons? You ought to like that.

 

[Magic-Man]

imo odyssey 2 and pokemon (gen 4 remakes?) will be their big games for 2021. odyssey 2 in october, pokemon in november.

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This, but I see Odyssey 2 coming earlier in the year.

Emily, I'm not sure if you can answer this, but do you think we'll see new games from the Mario Kart and 2D Mario team this year?

 

[Raccoon]

I dunno about Odyssey 2 guys, that's just my interpretation of things. We'll see this year.

 

[Nevermeltice]

Nah, I think 3D World comes earlier than that. Super Nintendo World opening in May and all.

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I could see it coming out earlier since it's a port but I'm not sure if Nintendo would release a game to tie into SNW. I could be wrong, though.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Nice
So no idea of what this Direct might have yet? Like I highly doubt they show off BoTW2 but maybe some smaller stuff for the first half of 2020 and one big announcement for the later half

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There's nothing concrete at the moment. It looks like Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World ports will be announced or at least one of them.

I'm thinking we will see at least 2 brand new Nintendo first party games. I want Paper Mario and 2D Metroid announcements lol

 

[Raccoon]

The idea of synergy between the Mario theme park and a 3D World port is pretty slick, and I think it would make a lot of sense

 

[LukasManak22]

This, but I see Odyssey 2 coming earlier in the year.

Emily, I'm not sure if you can answer this, but do you think we'll see new games from the Mario Kart and 2D Mario team this year?

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Definitely not anything from 2D Mario team, Maker 2 released last June, and they are doing updates. There was some hiring few weeks ago for 2D action game but i don't see anything coming from them for 2-3 years.

 

[Nevermeltice]

I just happened into this on Youtube and went on a trip down memory lane. I really want another DK game.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'm not sure how much Nintendo cares about tying 3D Worlds release close to the opening of Super Nintendo World in Japan, but I could see it since the Mario section is based off of 3D World.

Maybe it played a factor in Nintendo wanting 3D World to come this year

 

[Dragoncaine]

There's nothing concrete at the moment. It looks like Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World ports will be announced or at least one of them.

I'm thinking we will see at least 2 brand new Nintendo first party games. I want Paper Mario and 2D Metroid announcements lol

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You and I are always on the same page. Considering we've already had BotW 2's reveal, even though that's going to be my most anticipated game on Switch until it releases, the perfect Direct would include a return to traditional Mario RPG roots and a reveal of SOMETHING Metroid. Odyssey 2 would be fantastic, but wouldn't get my hype levels up like those other games would.

 

[Bunkles]

I say this as someone who is optimistic about this year.

My only concern about 2020 is that Nintendo might lean a little too hard on re-releases of older stuff as a crutch to fill out their calendar. Nintendo has already officially announced Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and Xenoblade Chronicles 1 remaster/remake for this year. I can also confirm that Nintendo has (at least) two more unannounced Wii U ports. They are not difficult to guess because there aren't many Wii U games left to port.

Also, if you aren't into Animal Crossing, then the first 3-4 months of 2020 won't be super amazing for you personally. Nintendo is obviously treating Animal Crossing as their big March title, so that's something people will just need to accept. And as we saw with 2019, Nintendo likes to dump most of their biggest releases in the second half of the year. Which typically makes the pacing for the first half of the year slower by comparison.

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Do you think we'll see any kind of new hardware this year? Not colors but either a Pro version of Switch or even a slight redesigns of existing Switches?

 

[Homura]

The first port is Pikmin 3.
If Nintendo doesn't delay BOTW2 then Super Mario 3D World is the second port.
If they delay it, then Super Mario Odyssey 2 will be released this winter instead and Wind Waker HD is the second port.

 

[Magic-Man]

Definitely not anything from 2D Mario team, Maker 2 released last June, and they are doing updates. There was some hiring few weeks ago for 2D action game but i don't see anything coming from them for 2-3 years.

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I believe that the hirings they were doing usually happen when a game is six to eighteen months out.

 

[Gartooth]

Odyssey 1 itself is like the longest it has taken EPD Tokyo to put out a new game, and that was in 4 years.

We are getting close to the 3 year point from Odyssey 1, a game that had next to no post launch support and was reportedly finished early. I'm just stumped where they are at, I feel like they have to have literally anything to release by early 2021 at this point. /fanxiety meltdown

 

[MaitreWakou]

So, if SM3DW is coming to the Switch...I never played it. Same with Odyssey actually. What are the pros/cons of each?

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Both are masterpieces, but VERY different.
For 3D Land and 3D World, they designed them as "what if a classic 2D Mario experience was actually transposed to a 3D environnement and level design ?"
Each level is crazy and SO different from any other level in the game (it's really crazy how diverse this game is), you can play as Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad (you unlock Rosalina in post game), each with their own abilities and stats (like in SMB USA). Up to 4 players, the co op is hilarious. Even more fun than NSMB imo.

Super Mario Odyssey is sandbox platformer, but still different from 64 and Sunshine. More open, more freedom in how to complete the missions thanks to the Cappy mecanics. Given the open design of the game, Mario is more easily controlable than in 3D World. You have access to a TON of different moves, Mario can jump like a lunatic and basically can access anywhere. The focus is less on difficult platforming, but more on "how do I want to get there ?". It's just a joy to play. I really like how Dunkey described it "if this game doesn't put the biggest smile on your face while playing, it means you are dead inside".

 

[Zlug]

I never played Pikmin 3 but I really liked Pikmin 1 and loved Pikmin 2.

What's the consensus about Pikmin 3, is it even better than these 2? Just curious.

 

[AllChan7]

There's nothing concrete at the moment. It looks like Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World ports will be announced or at least one of them.

I'm thinking we will see at least 2 brand new Nintendo first party games. I want Paper Mario and 2D Metroid announcements lol

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A Paper Mario announcement would just be icing on this delicious cake. I really hope that IP isn't dead to Nintendo

 

[bixente]

If you haven't played 3D World it's one of the best Mario games ever. You can do 4 player co-op which is fun as hell. You get points and scored at the end of each levels. It's not fully open levels. The charm and the music is amazing for this game

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Yeah I was just reading the critical reception on wikipedia. Can't wait to play it!

I really wish they'd release Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword though lol haven't played any of those. I'm sure they will eventually though.

 

[Zalman]

I never played Pikmin 3 but I really liked Pikmin 1 and loved Pikmin 2.

What's the consensus about Pikmin 3, is it even better than these 2? Just curious.

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I think it's the best game in the series.

 

[Dark Cloud]

You and I are always on the same page. Considering we've already had BotW 2's reveal, even though that's going to be my most anticipated game on Switch until it releases, the perfect Direct would include a return to traditional Mario RPG roots and a reveal of SOMETHING Metroid. Odyssey 2 would be fantastic, but wouldn't get my hype levels up like those other games would.

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Maybe we're twins? 🤨

Odyssey 1 itself is like the longest it has taken EPD Tokyo to put out a new game, and that was in 4 years.

We are getting close to the 3 year point from Odyssey 1, a game that had next to no post launch support and was reportedly finished early. I'm just stumped where they are at, I feel like they have to have literally anything to release by early 2021 at this point. /fanxiety meltdown

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Odyssey 1 had to wait for the Switch to release lol. The 3D Mario team could have a smaller game coming this year.

 

[LukasManak22]

Odyssey 1 itself is like the longest it has taken EPD Tokyo to put out a new game, and that was in 4 years.

We are getting close to the 3 year point from Odyssey 1, a game that had next to no post launch support and was reportedly finished early. I'm just stumped where they are at, I feel like they have to have literally anything to release by early 2021 at this point. /fanxiety meltdown

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It was not 4 years but 3, since Captain Toad released in November 2014.

 

[MaitreWakou]

I never played Pikmin 3 but I really liked Pikmin 1 and loved Pikmin 2.

What's the consensus about Pikmin 3, is it even better than these 2? Just curious.

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Considered as the best in the serie. At the very least, definitely considered as good as Pikmin 1.

 

[srtrestre]

Wii U ports you say?

 

[Dark Cloud]

A Paper Mario announcement would just be icing on this delicious cake. I really hope that IP isn't dead to Nintendo

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Paper Mario RPG *muah*

Yeah I was just reading the critical reception on wikipedia. Can't wait to play it!

I really wish they'd release Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword though lol haven't played any of those. I'm sure they will eventually though.

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The game is great when playing with others. It's so much fun. I'm not sure if we'll see Skyward Sword because of the motion controls with combat. The game was designed around it.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

Wii U ports you say?

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that'd be huge....

 

[ShinobiBk]

This poll is dumb

The real poll should be
Jan 8
Jan 9
Jan 15
Jan 16
Other

It's so obviously gonna be in January but can we predict the date? I'm team Jan. 8

 

[LukasManak22]

Wii U ports you say?

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Tbh it''s such a shame that botw released on switch in that state. Am not saying it's bad or anything but it could be much better, HD Rumble is missing, and it's very quick port so there are noticeble fps issues. Hopefully sequel will be much better in this since it's only coming to the Switch.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

3D World port makes me less optimistic for Odyssey 2 this year.

 

[MaitreWakou]

This poll is dumb

The real poll should be
Jan 8
Jan 9
Jan 15
Jan 16
Other

It's so obviously gonna be in January but can we predict the date? I'm team Jan. 8

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Team january 9.

 

[ManNR]

I think the Odyssey team will have a brand new game this year in the size of a Captain Toad.

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I agree with this prediction.

 

[Wil Grieve]

Pikmin 3 is by far the easiest in the series but it's so damn good

 

[Dark Cloud]

I hope Miyamoto is in the direct to do a quick reveal of Pikmin 3 Deluxe. He probably won't, but it's nice seeing him on camera.

 

[Raccoon]

It's so obviously gonna be in January

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sure, jan

 

[Skittzo]

3D World port makes me less optimistic for Odyssey 2 this year.

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The only way it could make sense to me is if 3D World releases in Q1 or Q2 and Odyssey 2 releases in Q3 or Q4. They haven't shied away from releasing similar Mario platformers in the same year, they just need to be spaced apart (see NSMBU and SMM2).

 

[Atheerios]

Based on that Emily comment, I can see why she would say something like that, as even a conservative estimate puts us at 5 re-releases for this year, at the very least.

1- FE
2- Xenoblade DE
3- Wii U Port
4- Wii U Port
5- Pokémon Diamond / Pearl?

And averaging 1 big first-party game per month, that only leaves 7 new games for 2020.

6- Animal Crossing
7- Bravely Default 2
8- Zelda BotW 2?
9-??
10-??
11-??
12-??

 

[RealDealRusty]

Do we think we'll get Pokemon games this year?

 

[Dark Cloud]

Based on that Emily comment, I can see why she would say something like that, as even a conservative estimate puts us at 5 re-releases for this year, at the very least.

1- FE
2- Xenoblade DE
3- Wii U Port
4- Wii U Port
5- Pokémon Diamond / Pearl

And averaging 1 big first-party game per month, that only leaves 7 new games for 2020.

6- Animal Crossing
7- Octopath Traveller
8- Zelda BotW 2?
9-??
10-??
11-??
12-??

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Octopath Traveler released 2 years ago. Pokémon is not a sure thing

 

[Nevermeltice]

Based on that Emily comment, I can see why she would say something like that, as even a conservative estimate puts us at 5 re-releases for this year, at the very least.

1- FE
2- Xenoblade DE
3- Wii U Port
4- Wii U Port
5- Pokémon Diamond / Pearl

And averaging 1 big first-party game per month, that only leaves 7 new games for 2020.

6- Animal Crossing
7- Octopath Traveller
8- Zelda BotW 2?
9-??
10-??
11-??
12-??

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I think you mean Bravely Default II?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Based on that Emily comment, I can see why she would say something like that, as even a conservative estimate puts us at 5 re-releases for this year, at the very least.

1- FE
2- Xenoblade DE
3- Wii U Port
4- Wii U Port
5- Pokémon Diamond / Pearl

And averaging 1 big first-party game per month, that only leaves 7 new games for 2020.

6- Animal Crossing
7- Octopath Traveller
8- Zelda BotW 2?
9-??
10-??
11-??
12-??

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Are we sure that the Diamond/Pearl remake won't get delayed.

That would be three consecutive years of Pokemon RPGs.

 

[CurseVox]

Not sure why people have such a big problem with Wii U ports. The system flopped hard but had some absolutely amazing games. Those games should get a chance to shine for the metric ton of new Nintendo console owners. I almost wish they would port Nintendo Land to be honest. I really have no interest in breaking out the Wii U at this point. It's more of a hassle than it's worth, but god damn I loved that Co-Op Metroid game in Nintendo Land. My wife and I would play the absolute shit out of that game. I'd roll as Samus and she would be air support. It had some meat to it too! Complete with Boss battles. Such a shame that had to live and die on the Wii U. :'(

 

[Zlug]

Considered as the best in the serie. At the very least, definitely considered as good as Pikmin 1.

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I think it's the best game in the series.

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It would have been a Day one buy either way but...that's even better than I expected.
I stll think it will be hard to top Pikmin 2 for me, it was so charming with the Piklopedia and so on... but eh, I'm hyped then.

 

[bixente]

Do we think we'll get Pokemon games this year?

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Pokemon Sleep.

Looks like your avatar is using it to good effect right now.

I have no problem with Wii U ports, or ports in general. The more the merrier. As long as they're not lazy ports.