This, point that WW HD looks better doesn't mean that TP HD is bad port, simply WW aged much better.
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This, point that WW HD looks better doesn't mean that TP HD is bad port, simply WW aged much better.
This is the key point. Vanilla WW on Gamecube looks absolutely beautiful even to this day. The art direction and graphics on that game are timeless. No matter how you shake it, any version of WW will always look better than any version of TP.
Of course it is, it's one of the biggest franchise they have, in league with Zelda/3D Mario in terms of sales.
I am so glad that they went with the cell shaded look instead for the "realistic" one people were hoping for. I love the artstyle of WW and like you said it will never look bad because of it. Whereas a lot of "realistic" games from the 2000s aged really badly.
Because those changes weren't necessary, as you said WW aged very well and those textures and models still look good for 2013. TP HD just needed more changes to make it look like a 2016 game. Even those changes you mention like better geometry were done half-heartly. I mean cool that the door in Malo Mart features more polygons, but Link's gauntlet and the Eldin bridge still look as blocky as before. On the lighting side, it needed a brand new engine with modern features like in WW HD. Lighting in TP HD was changed a bit, they reduced bloom made stuff brigher, but what it needed was a complete overhaul with all the features I mentioned before (especially dynamic shadows and bump mapping on the new textures.)
Anyway, we are going off topic here. It's nice that TP HD worked for you, but personally I needed more and I'm still disappointed that TP HD wasted so much potential to make it look like a modern game.
Maybe we can agree that Metroid Prime Trilogy should be better than both remasters!
It's not a bad port, but a port that left much to be desired. Adding new lighting= graphical overhaul of the game. WW HD looked so great because they added dynamic shadows and global illumination, not just because WW has a timeless art style.
That's fine. I also like WW's art style more. AFAIK TP HD was done by Tentalus, a pretty small studio whereas WW HD was done internally, so that development time seems logical. I wouldn't argue that it was a bigger project because of a longer development time.
Yes, but in that regard, WW HD is much more of a remake than TP HD for me.
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they'd be the absolute best team to work on the trilogy, but they're probably working with sony on something.
Yeah me too. Since the Switch release the directs months are more structured. There is almost every second month offical News of Nintendo (Main Directs, Game Direct, Indie Presentations)
That's talking about the start of the video series about art designershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsT1cSjGKls (thanks Atheerios in the gen 8 thread for the link)
Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe not.
Yes, there's gonna be a lot to talk about gen 8 art design after the reveal.
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I mean they might
However, using this date as evidence of a reveal is not just erroneous, it's a ridiculous stretch
isn't it too soon to reveal the next pokemon? they gotta give let's go a few more months to sell
I mean I think that TPHD looks like trash and WWHD looks gorgeous. But you just can't argue that WWHD had much work on it or even more "heart". WWHD was done in six months. TPHD took two whole years! It was just objectively a much bigger work and of a bigger scale. They were simply coming from way lower than with WW.
Considering that MP games aged quite well even today, I'm confident that the remastered look will be okay.
I don't think we'll see a Pokémon Direct coming this month. Maybe February fits better, even if it's only to show a logo and a name for the two editions of the game. That's the usual pattern for TPC.
Well it's a new generation and it would make sense to start talking about it as soon as possible. X/Y were also revealed in January so it wouldn't surprise me to see Pokémon news this early.
It's about art designers, they'll probably just show some Town and Let's Go designs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsT1cSjGKls (thanks Atheerios in the gen 8 thread for the link)
Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe not.
Pokémon ain't getting revealed until March at the earliest. LGGPE is not even two months old yet.
No Way, new generations get announced early in the year since the beginning of Nintendo Directs, besides Nintendo wants to have something tangible to show at the Investors at the end of the Fiscal year in early April
The games before X/Y were B/W 2 and they released in June in Japan and October WW so they had more time in the spotlight compared to what Let's Go would have if Gen 8 was shown in January.
Plus they have to have a gameplay trailer ready and public by mid April to go with the release of Detective Pikachu. Not having a trailer in front of their first hollywood movie would be a huge mistake
But Let's GO and Gen 8 cater to two completely different audiences, they made it abundantly clear when they specified "Core RPG title" and "game for the GO players"
There's still plenty of overlap as it is still Pokemon. Many will buy both Gen 8 and Let's Go for example.
If Bluepoint isn't working on a Demon's Souls remake as we speak, I will be very sad.
Is there any evidence that announcing gen 8 will cut into let's go sales anyway? I'm not expecting an announcement in January but I don't think they need to delay it to give let's go room. If anything the increased interest in the Pokémon brand may well benefit let's go.
One of the mods on here would post an otter on Twitter when a Nintendo Direct was approaching.
To be fair I am not saying it will 100% happen in January. I think it will be revealed in Q1 though.
Pointer would not be possible, the joycons only have Gyro, but they can make a really good emulation. Let's wait and see how Resident Evil 4 turns out, and we will have a pretty good notion :)
Yes, every cel shaded games age better. BoTW will look much better than God of War years from now.
TPHD is a good port with all things considered and graphic style. Of course it could have been 60fps, but is alright.
It could actually boost sales. USUM saw an increase in sales after Let's Go announcement. I remember a 60% bump when Let's Go pre-orders went up.
That was at the end of May though, after USUM sales would have died off (6 months after release). Let's Go is still selling at the moment so it's doubtful if Gen 8 was announced this month or early next month that it would boost sales.
Core RPG Pokémon Title
Let's GO is obviously made to introduce the GO players to the main series as implied by the name, the catching mechanic, the Pokémon GO interaction and the Gen 1 setting, I can't find a source right now because I only find Let's GO Reviews while doing a quick research but the developers said so themselves in various interviews, they didn't opt out the possibility for regular Pokémon fans to play the game, but they made it clear that they would find interest in different parts of the game i.e. experiencing Kanto in co-op or the post-game content.
To make the division even more clear they re-announced the Core RPG Pokémon Game for 2019 in the same event where they unveiled Let's GO
What he actually said was a Pocket Monsters Series title, the same description as he used when revealing Let's Go. Core RPG is one of two synonyms the west uses for main series. With the actual Japanese statements there is no differentiation between Let's Go and the other main titles
Also we don't capitalise the Go in Let's Go :P
Trust me you don't wanna go toe-to-toe with Serebii on Pokemon minutiae!
Nintendo Directs get delayed last minute every other time. He doesn't gain anything but trash talk if he says next week now, and Nintendo decides to delay it to the week after. It's coming within the month.
I know it's been Pokémon GO and Pokémon: Let's Go (with an exclamation mark after the "Go" in Let's Go in Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and Taiwan; that exclamation mark is moved to the end of Pikachu and Eevee's names in all other regional variants of the title) since both of their inceptions, but it still kills my OCD.
(I know my opinion doesn't matter as the person who made this thread, but still.)
It's a lateish new year miracle!So king bombshell basically dropped
- Metroid Prime Trilogy and 2D Zelda in 2019
- 3D Zelda in 2020
- reiterated BotW-tier Pokémon in 2019
I am pretty sure that will not have Pokemon Direct this month (like some people suggesting) and that potentail Pokemon Direct will be much closer to May than to January in any case.
Its expected next year, or week later in worst case.
It's either hype or doom. There's no place for reason here. ;)
BotW tier could mean a lot of things :
- Breaking conventions
- Come back to the roots (Zelda 1 for BotW)
- Bigger in scale, most ambitious to date.
It is probably the 3rd point.
Actually textures were worked on, but even if they weren't the game would still look more timeless.
That said I actually really liked TPHD and thought they did a great job.
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