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Nintendo is updating the original Switch with a new CPU and storage
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Basically what everyone is saying. I see some folks trying to push a narrative like people are expecting Xbox One X power when no one in their right mind is expecting that.
There was a bigger gap in specs from the 3ds to new 3ds than there even is in the ps4 to ps4 pro...
The annoying thing about all of this is that people probably wouldn't even be complaining that much for a pro device if Nintendo allowed all games to run at 460mhz, or at full docked speeds, while in portable mode. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they do when this revision releases.
Which is exactly what Nintendo would do with a "pro" model. The smaller switch has an extra half hour battery life with an 800mAh smaller battery, we are talking about either an extra hour added on or a smaller casing using the smaller battery and minimal bezels. We are talking about needing a less powerful fan, which would also suggest a significant casing upgrade. A die shrink for something like the Switch can mean a whole lot for it, and it won't just be the old Switch with a small update, its gonna be a paradigm shift in marketing, design, etc. And anyway it looks like there is no need to argue semantics thanks to this tweet:
Its gonna be something more than just the old Switch, new SoC.
Imagine Eurogamer, which seemed to have piggy backed off WSJ, is probably going to be the least accurate of the bunch
Combined with the reports (also from WSJ) that both the Lite and Pro revisions are in production now, there aren't a whole lot of other possibilities that make sense.
If we get a new CPU, it would be really exciting. I can imagine an A72 or A73 CPU(which is still like 3 years old). It's going to be a big upgrade from the A57 but still compatible. We should get 2x performance at least easily, especially with a 12 or 16nm.
if it's out this year, a 12nm/16finfet docked mode on handheld should be feasible and maybe we can get up to 750-800 GFLOPs for the GPU in the best case scenario. Trying to keep my hopes low though. Getting a 6GB DDR4x RAM would be amazing too. Ahh don't want to keep my hopes up
But I dunno. It's Nintendo
if it's out this year, a 12nm/16finfet docked mode on handheld should be feasible and maybe we can get up to 750-800 GFLOPs for the GPU in the best case scenario. Trying to keep my hopes low though. Getting a 6GB DDR4x RAM would be amazing too. Ahh don't want to keep my hopes up
But I dunno. It's Nintendo
Objectively yeah, but in the practice the PS4 pro is a better "enhancement". The 3Ds had some exclusives that divided the userbase.
Let's talk about the PSP for a second... Every model of PSP was capable of running at 333mhz clock speed, but Sony limited games to 222mhz at launch. This was mainly a concern for battery life, and once the PSP2000 launched, games were allowed to use the much beefier 266mhz, 300mhz, and 333mhz modes.
I could definitely see Nintendo doing something similar. We already know that original Switch units can hit higher clockrates both on CPU and GPU, and with this new model offering better battery life and thermals, I could see Nintendo releasing a variable setting for games that aims higher or just plain using the higher clocks and recommending people who have shorter battery life buy the newer console.
Anyone who thinks this new model is going to get exclusive power modes and just be an all around "must upgrade" are kidding themselves the same as they always have. Every rumor has been about a conservative boost and not a "pro" model system.
I could definitely see Nintendo doing something similar. We already know that original Switch units can hit higher clockrates both on CPU and GPU, and with this new model offering better battery life and thermals, I could see Nintendo releasing a variable setting for games that aims higher or just plain using the higher clocks and recommending people who have shorter battery life buy the newer console.
Anyone who thinks this new model is going to get exclusive power modes and just be an all around "must upgrade" are kidding themselves the same as they always have. Every rumor has been about a conservative boost and not a "pro" model system.
An updated Switch with a die shrink, longer battery life, more space and fixed JoyCons seems fine to me.
Eh, I don't know about that. There are a lot of nice features Nintendo could include in a potential Pro model that go well beyond clock speeds. Some people in this thread have mentioned Bluetooth audio for wireless headphones, which would be amazing. OLED panel is another obvious upgrade. Better WiFi adapter, better speakers. Removing those massive bezels would expand the screen size while keep the unit dimensions the same.
There's a lot they could do.
Oh I don't disagree, I just mean there wouldn't be such a huge demand right now if Nintendo had already taken the initiative on that front. Particularly considering hackers have already been doing it.
Yes, though we likely won't get 4k output which is a shame since the SoC should be capable of 4k video decoding.
It being an fcc filing for the same ID would indicate that it would literally be the exact same device/name. I don't think they could do that, whilst also marketing and releasing it under a new name like a "S" or "slim".
Yes but even fewer noticeable differences as it appears to not even be a new sku.
The answer when a new one launches. Or when you want to actually play the games.
I feel like they are going for an iterative model. Like phones, but every 2-3 years instead of annually.
I feel like they are going for an iterative model. Like phones, but every 2-3 years instead of annually.
But the Lite is a cheaper alternative that looks like a Vita. I guess the look is subjective, but it absolutely is a cheaper Switch. So, I don't really get what he getting at by quoting himself on that?
So we pretty much confirm due to Mochi and his talk about article.
WSJ article meant an "enhanced" Switch rather than a full upgrade Switch("Switch Pro")
We will probably get these iterative updates for the foreseeable future. With Nintendo adding a number to Switch to make it look bigger every half decade or so
WSJ article meant an "enhanced" Switch rather than a full upgrade Switch("Switch Pro")
We will probably get these iterative updates for the foreseeable future. With Nintendo adding a number to Switch to make it look bigger every half decade or so
I haven't read through the entire thread but I'm not sure how people are taking this to mean there won't be a performance bump. This is a clear indication that there is a new SoC and a different memory configuration, right? We don't know what that means but that still could be around the boost we thought it would be (anything from 50% higher clocks to docked clocks in handheld mode).
I guess the question now is whether this is a quiet revision or something like a Switch ver. 2.
I guess the question now is whether this is a quiet revision or something like a Switch ver. 2.
It's possible (and almost probable) that this new revision will have better thermals and battery life because of the updated SoC.
If this is the case.. I wonder what the Switch Pro is. It's certainly not just this revision with more memory, could it actually be a custom Tegra SoC?
If this is the case.. I wonder what the Switch Pro is. It's certainly not just this revision with more memory, could it actually be a custom Tegra SoC?
All of that sounds absolutely delish.
I don't know how realistic it would be, but I wouldn't mind if they managed to include wireless charging in a potential Switch Pro.
What will likely happen is that we'll get new colours with more storage this holiday. That's how they'll 'market' this hardware refresh, with the SoC performance upgrades being present but not spoken about too much.
Since it's an update to the existing filing, I'm not sure it can be shipped/marketed with any changes to the name. Not sure if someone can confirm that though.
People will have to know since Emily said there will new colors. Even if it's just a simple announcement of new colors.
When this Pro business becomes official, i'll fight my wallet to the death depending on how much of an upgrade sounds reasonable to me. If there's even a slight graphical upgrade to my current library or future games..
I lost my switch. So I'll just get this one. Look for the higher storage and it'll be the Updated one. When is it coming out?
Didn't say it was. You guys should read my entire message. I said it would be nice too. But, if we do get a new cou it could be an upgrade from a57.
So how exactly are they going to announce this if Emily is correct and it's at least going to come in two new colors? They'll need to differentiate it somehow.
"We are pleased to announce that we have updated the Nintendo Switch! Now in non-grey colors!"
The "upgrade" is so insignificant it's not worth mentioning, so they will just announce two new colours for Nintendo switch and that will be it. No mention of slight bumps in performance.
Cool, if we get a better battery, screen etc im going to be okay :)