Less "fixed" and more "thoroughly mitigated". It's still there, they just changed the boot process of the OS to make it incredibly hard to boot a modded version of it.
Following that analogy, it's more like there was two holes. The first one (bootloader) would have a hole itself (the second holehole)whe would flow to give access to the firmware. The first hole is still wide open, but the second one hasn't just been plugged, they replaced the whole damn wall :PSo basically like fixing a leak by plugging a different hole, interesting.
Interesting. I'm a Computer Science major, hence my curiosity. Either way, impressive work on Nintendo's part.Following that analogy, it's more like there was two holes. The first one (bootloader) would have a hole itself (the second holehole)whe would flow to give access to the firmware. The first hole is still wide open, but the second one hasn't just been plugged, they replaced the whole damn wall :P
No 6.2 games as of yet, even Pokémon only requires 5.1.so if they truly patched this issue and the pirates are no longer able to play games that require firmware version 6.2 or higher, will they now have to patch the new games individually to make them run on earlier versions?
same. it would be sad to see the homebrew scene hit a speed bump with this new firmware, but it's best (IMO) to have some way of stopping piracy in the system. just like how vita was recently and after being pretty much dead got hacked wide open, it's better if that happens to switch after a few years, for people to use it as a legacy hardware for homebrew and emulators.Sorry to any legitimate users of homebrew stuff, but I'm glad to see them shutting down piracy on it.
i meant when the games that require 6.2 or 7 eventually come out.No 6.2 games as of yet, even Pokémon only requires 5.1.
Bypassing firmware requirements is really easy right now. They might have similarly smart solution prepared to prevent that in 6.2 games, however.
probably yeah. every new title will definitely force 6.2will they now have to patch the new games individually to make them run on earlier versions?
preload means it's already is on people's systems and they'll be able to run it once december 7th gets here, and physical carts are probably already pressed since a while ago. and it's not like they can force an update, whataver version is on the cart and on people's systems will be playable day 1 on 6.1.probably yeah. every new title will definitely force 6.2
smash uses 5.0 key generation and there's a preload version going around so it makes me curious whether nintendo will actually switch it to 6.2 for the actual final release. i doubt it but if they really did it would kill chances of pirates getting their hands on the game.
Great news, but I haven't seen anyone answer the question about hackers in online games? Are they still going to around or will it be difficult for them now?
how did people play hacked games online anyway? wasn't it impossible for hackers to go online cuz they'd be banned and then be unable to go online?You can't play any game online without updating to the last firmware, so they should be gone for now.
oh god are people now gonna do "RARE HACKABLE PRE-6.2 SWITCH GOOD CONDITION" ads?
how did people play hacked games online anyway? wasn't it impossible for hackers to go online cuz they'd be banned and then be unable to go online?
TSEC doesn't just get keys, it's also continually validating the integrity of the RAM - Emunand users are toast too.
Also burns a fuse upon updating.
So for full clarification, this means that someone can't just update their SysNAND and be OK with that with their EmuNAND still on 6.1? Because the 6.2 checks and blown fuse will stop the 6.1 NAND from booting?
If that's an accurate summary then I have to say I'm impressed by the software engineering on Nintendo's part.I could be very mistaken but as far as I understand they basically made it so that the boot chain makes use of a security coprocessor (TSEC) that previously dealt only with other crypto stuff, problem is it's, well, a security coprocessor so hijacking it and grabbing its new secret key isn't going to be easy at all. It, among tons of other validity checks, refuses to do its thing if it notices anything unusual in memory aka patched binaries you'd need to even have booted with the hardware exploit earlier in the chain to begin with. A tough one for sure.
There should be no performance impact though.
Better then previous Nintendo systems(and others) where once they were cracked at the OS level Nintendo was left without much of a recourse. They are being VERY aggressive in fighting piracy this gen.
Because most people don't care about the homebrew scene, even if they say they do. 99% of users use the exploits for piracy. And that's bad for everyone (well, except for pirates).Can someone explain why everyone is so hyped for Nintendo to cover this exploit? I don't really play online, was cheating or piracy that rampant an issue? It seems to me like this will just kill the homebrew scene.
It hasn't been rampant just very easy for those who want too. People who take their hacked switches online have been getting regularly banned so cheating has only been a small issue, Nintendo cares a lot more about stopping piracy.Can someone explain why everyone is so hyped for Nintendo to cover this exploit? I don't really play online, was cheating or piracy that rampant an issue? It seems to me like this will just kill the homebrew scene.
piracy was getting too big. of course the big nintendo games will still sell bucket loads, but smaller third party releases or indie games could use every single copy they can sell, having a system blown wide open and piracy be so easy is not good news for them.Can someone explain why everyone is so hyped for Nintendo to cover this exploit? I don't really play online, was cheating or piracy that rampant an issue? It seems to me like this will just kill the homebrew scene.
This, I hope the focus can return to bringing new features with the new updates.Maybe now that Nintendo fixed their focus on hacking, I hope that they can turn and shift resources towards OS features and online.