some people usually act and talk based on the very basic and childish mindset that corporates=bad, haxxors=good.
Keep dreaming, mate, life finds a way as they say šEverytime I've to read posts like these I'm even more happy that a company won a fight against piracy!
yep. how anyone can object going after piracy websites is quite mind boggling.Yeah there seems to be a very prevalent mindset that corporations should have no right to protect their IP, because it stops us from doing whatever we want.
Yes, hopefully the government will crack down on knife crime too.
Do you consider downloading old roms piracy?How piracy website has anything to do with legit homebrew š¤
you don't?
yeah how dare they block people from getting their products for free.
They are spending so much money in something they can't win... or they will end torrents?
How piracy website has anything to do with legit homebrew š¤
The same way that Nintendo sees all emulators as piracy, or how they filed DMCA claims against Youtubers like MVG who talk about legit homebrew under the guise of it being piracy.How piracy website has anything to do with legit homebrew š¤
yep. how anyone can object going after piracy websites is quite mind boggling.
edit: and we have people here cheering for how nothing can be done about piracy with winky emojis
Storefronts like Steam offer good value for money to the point that piracy still exists, but is minimal in the grand scheme of things.
I do.
Nintendo would likely proclaim there's no such thing as "legit homebrew". They have such a binary lens on such matters.
Don't think it stops with websites that might be named "PIRATESWITCHGAMES.CO.UK" or something as obvious. They'll soon go after any means of circumvention, the same way a decade or so ago that Swap Magic discs were targeted during the PS2 days as "piracy devices" in the US. Swap Magic was one of the most popular region bypassing devices the system had, but that didn't matter.
The same way that Nintendo sees all emulators as piracy, or how they filed DMCA claims against Youtubers like MVG who talk about legit homebrew under the guise of it being piracy.
Because there are legitimate ways to get them, and there are many people who just want to talk about that without every emulator thread being derailed by piracy concern trolling idiots.I do.
But for some reason ResetEra is ok about discussing emulators and old roms when it's obvious everyone downloaded and not dumped them.
I do.
But for some reason ResetEra is ok about discussing emulators and old roms when it's obvious everyone downloaded and not dumped them.
Nintendo would likely proclaim there's no such thing as "legit homebrew". They have such a binary lens on such matters.
Don't think it stops with websites that might be named "PIRATESWITCHGAMES.CO.UK" or something as obvious. They'll soon go after any means of circumvention, the same way a decade or so ago that Swap Magic discs were targeted during the PS2 days as "piracy devices" in the US. Swap Magic was one of the most popular region bypassing devices the system had, but that didn't matter.
I'm not against Nintendo fighting piracy but I wish they did a better job of distributing their old games.
I don't think anyone has an issue with them going after websites that specifically enable and encourage piracy, but if that cull also shuts down sites that allow homebrew, then that can kind of suck for people interesting in legal homebrew
If someone wants to dump their SNES or GameCube game ROMS onto a PC and then upload them to their Switch, why is that inherently bad/evil, and how does it hurt Nintendo?
How is that piracy? Which begs the questions, why should we celebrate people having a harder time doing what they want with their legally owned games on their legally owned hardware?
Yeah and that was Nintendo being proper scumbags, and yet people still celebrated that as a huge win, when in reality it was Nintendo misusing copyright strikes to enforce their internal policy which isn't actually against the law
I love Nintendo but it's pretty depressing seeing people defend stuff like that. I can put my fondness for their games to one side and call a dick move, a dick move
Not everyone seems to be able to do that
the tools for hacking are out there. nintendo will never be able to stop them or effectively taken down. anyone who's interested in homebrew, hacking, dumping their games, etc. nintendo would never be able to stop them. to me it looks like they try to bring down or block places where you can simply search for a game's name and download it's rom or iso. that seems understandable (at least to me). right now, a quick google search gives me many guides on how to hack my switch, and i don't think nintendo will be able to stop me from getting to those guides, so i'm not mad at them going after piracy sites because i'm sure me (and anyone else) would have access to that info whenever they want.I don't think anyone has an issue with them going after websites that specifically enable and encourage piracy, but if that cull also shuts down sites that allow homebrew, then that can kind of suck for people interesting in legal homebrew
If someone wants to dump their SNES or GameCube game ROMS onto a PC and then upload them to their Switch, why is that inherently bad/evil, and how does it hurt Nintendo?
How is that piracy? Which begs the questions, why should we celebrate people having a harder time doing what they want with their legally owned games on their legally owned hardware?
The same way that Nintendo sees all emulators as piracy, or how they filed DMCA claims against Youtubers like MVG who talk about legit homebrew under the guise of it being piracy.
I don't really care that much if this means Switch roms get taken down. I do care about the potential for this to be abused.
And they are literally breaking their law to protect that, by abusing the DMCA system for things which are not copyright violations.Nintendo wants to stop the dissemination of information on how to modify Switch hardware, because people can abuse the exploits to commit piracy. Whether or not there are legitimate uses for homebrew is immaterial to Nintendo's concerns. As far as Nintendo is concerned you are not supposed to use your hardware for any purpose they did not intend for it to be used.
None of this has anything to do with the OP. This was won in a court of law which means that these websites were, at the very least, promoting piracy.
the tools for hacking are out there. nintendo will never be able to stop them or effectively taken down. anyone who's interested in homebrew, hacking, dumping their games, etc. nintendo would never be able to stop them. to me it looks like they try to bring down or block places where you can simply search for a game's name and download it's rom or iso. that seems understandable (at least to me). right now, a quick google search gives me many guides on how to hack my switch, and i don't think nintendo will be able to stop me from getting to those guides, so i'm not mad at them going after piracy sites because i'm sure me (and anyone else) would have access to that info whenever they want.
And they are literally breaking their law to protect that, by abusing the DMCA system for things which are not copyright violations.
Nintendo's internal policies aren't fucking law.
Most of Nintendos old catalogue is not available on NSO. Who cares about 3DS and Wii U? These are dead consoles.What is 'legit homebrew'? I rarely see anyone showing off some rad Switch mods to make it into a universal remote or control a robot. It's all just downloading stuff illegally.
What old games are unavailable? Between 3DS/Wii U and NSO?
Nintendo wants to stop the dissemination of information on how to modify Switch hardware, because people can abuse the exploits to commit piracy. Whether or not there are legitimate uses for homebrew is immaterial to Nintendo's concerns. As far as Nintendo is concerned you are not supposed to use your hardware for any purpose they did not intend for it to be used.
i don't see it as black and white, and i'm sure there are many fine people on era who do use homebrew for legitimate reasons, but i also can't fool myself and not think that the reason the vast majority of people would be interested in hacking their systems would be to pirate games.Yeah, and again, you seemed to reply in a way that lead me to believe you saw this as a very black and white issue, so I was trying to add context
No need to apologise. Of course it's more prevalent than console piracy, it's the nature of the beast. My point is that it has to be combated by value and convenience, so PC storefronts are a good example of how to reduce piracy by analysing how they can do things better themselves. They haven't eliminated piracy, no one ever will, but they've helped change the mindset of the majority from "I'll pirate this game", to "I'll buy this game". Considering where PC used to be in regards to piracy, that's no mean feat, I pirated all my PC games in the early 00's.Sorry, imo this is nonsense. PC piracy is most likely far larger a problem than any console piracy. So much so that devs/publishers have had to hire a company (Denuvo) to have extra DRM in their games.
What is 'legit homebrew'? I rarely see anyone showing off some rad Switch mods to make it into a universal remote or control a robot. It's all just downloading stuff illegally.
you are not entitled to be able to play any old game you want on any modern platform, their lack of availability doesn't justify piracy.Most of Nintendos old catalogue is not available on NSO. Who cares about 3DS and Wii U? These are dead consoles.
Nintendo is not the law and they are breaking the law themselves with that I brought a product and I can do what ever I want with it. Tear it to pieces wipe my ass with it.
i don't see it as black and white, and i'm sure there are many fine people on era who do use homebrew for legitimate reasons, but i also can't fool myself and not think that the reason the vast majority of people would be interested in hacking their systems would be to pirate games.
And they are literally breaking their law to protect that, by abusing the DMCA system for things which are not copyright violations.
Nintendo's internal policies aren't fucking law.
I'm not pirating any Nintendo games. I just think a proper online platform where they can distribute their old games would discourage people from pirating. It's the same logic with streaming services. Why would I pirate when I can just watch movies legally on an affordable platform like Netflix? When Nintendo makes boneheaded decisions like not having a VC on the Switch, they are only encouraging piracy.you are not entitled to be able to play any old game you want on any modern platform, their lack of availability doesn't justify piracy.
Usually they hide behind words like 'preservation' as some kind of twisted moral high ground but they don't have that flimsy excuse here.yep. how anyone can object going after piracy websites is quite mind boggling.
edit: and we have people here cheering for how nothing can be done about piracy with winky emojis
Filing false DMCA claims against Youtubers who only discuss legitimate homebrew. People like Modern Vintage Gamer. It's what I was talking about before Meatwad replied to me.
Censorship is bad.
This effort is useless, they will never learn...
I will reconsider my choice to buy a Switch, I really dont like the fact that they arrived to ask a court to block websites.
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I am against piracy, I am only digital by years so I even support the future that will come, but that behaviour is something to really not be happy... a corporation deciding which sites we should be able to visit. Are you serious?