Sammy Samusu

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I remember when GAF told me to buy Nier instead of Nioh and I fell for their trap.

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here's for another 2m more before Nioh 2, it went toe to toe with HZD as my favorite game from last year and has the best combat of all games ive ever played to date
 

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A lot of the stuff people hate about the souls games is absent (confusing directions, too much exploration), but the combat feels similar. I guess it depends what part of the Souls games you bounced off of.
Actually... maybe, but for me it's something else, even though I don't "hate" Nioh, it's all these weapons and items they throw at you, I can't be bothered to go into menus constantly to change and "evolve" my gear, just give me a reasonable weapon set and let me fight! - Which ultimately doesn't work as I'm currently stuck at the second or so boss and can't do any damage at all... stopped playing there a while ago and never got back, even though I enjoyed the game until this point - which isn't something I can say about the Souls games, which stopped being fun with getting one shotted in the tutorial of all things...

But yes, I'll say the combat in Nioh is really fun, it's the "loot" aspect that doesn't do it for me.
 

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Nioh has great combat, but falters in the level design and enemy variety, especially in the later half of the game. Also the loot system is a terrible mess. Would love to see a sequel improve on those aspects.
 

D65

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Best combat in a loot game.

And loot is pretty damn good when compared to Diablo.

All the Souls shit is the worst part of the game. I hope they go full NGB and Diablo
 

Arkanius

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It seemed as expected for me (playing at 3440 x 1440 on a 1080).
Note that the game runs at variable resolution between 1080p and 720p in the 60 FPS mode on PS4 Pro, so it's inherently rather taxing.

I remember that running shadows above medium destroyed your FPS. I tested with a 1080 Ti and it made me confused on why it was that taxing. I then took it back to medium since I barely noted a difference. But I didn't get very far on the game.
 

KainXVIII

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I remember that running shadows above medium destroyed your FPS. I tested with a 1080 Ti and it made me confused on why it was that taxing. I then took it back to medium since I barely noted a difference. But I didn't get very far on the game.
They patched shadows, but still Nioh port is pretty mediocre - lack of optimization, antialiasing, no surround sound support..At least its not Nier level of quality lol
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Super happy for them.

I thought the game was great (what I played, never finished it as life happened). Hope to see more from the IP.
 

D65

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Man I heard a lot of silliness about this game but the loot being bad is a new one haha
 

crimilde

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The loot system allows you to multi select and filter when selling or dismantling, it's really not that bad to manage.
 

Kaako

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Hell yes, well deserved. I fucking loooooove this game. The art of sword stance flux dance all day, every day.
Kodama <3!
 

BigJeffery

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The loot system is about as good as any other game that uses randomly generated loot, so I can assure you that any issues you people had with it are entirely your own fault.
 

catashtrophe

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Great game and great news

Wish it had done double that though as it was a cracking new IP and best action game this gen
 

D65

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Nah I don't accept that haha. Fans of the game are fans for combat and loot. Preferences aside, it is not the issue with the game.
 

Strings

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Story?

But it's an amazing retelling of historical events. I do think it requires a little bit of prior interest in Japanese folklore tho.
I think it's a strong idea for a story (I mean, it started as a Kurosawa script, that's a given), but the way it's presented is kind of a mess. Characters are weak (outside of very nice designs), as are pacing and structure.
 

D65

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Addressing enemy variety, from the appearance point of view maybe (although I love their take on different forms of yokai) but there is far more variety in fighting the monsters than any of action game this gen.

Souls pretty much boils down to dodge and attack with no regard to spacing or weaknesses the way Nioh does.
 

BigJeffery

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I think the enemy variety complaint is definitely overblown. The new God of War has like ten different enemy types and it didn't stop people from getting bonered up over it.
 

Aniki

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Yeah, i don't like most loot based games. I just don't enjoy the volume of loot you get. But that's my personal problem with this system and doesn't mean the one used in Nioh is bad, just not a fan of them at all. But that will not hinder me from enjoying the next Nioh game as i'm sure it will have a very similar system. I think the majority enjoyed Nioh's loot based gameplay.
 

Strings

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I think the enemy variety complaint is definitely overblown. The new God of War has like ten different enemy types and it didn't stop people for getting bonered up over it.
There's a fair few people who bring it up as a negative for GoW. That said, that game has a lot to do outside of combat (story, puzzles, exploration) + the encounter design is way more interesting in how it pairs the enemies.

Nioh is solely combat, and twice as long as a 100% clear of GoW.
 

BigJeffery

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There's a fair few people who bring it up as a negative for GoW. That said, that game has a lot to do outside of combat (story, puzzles, exploration) + the encounter design is way more interesting in how it pairs the enemies.

I strongly disagree with that. Basically every GoW encounter takes place in the same kind of arena (a big room), and the combat is one-dimensional enough that even on GoW difficulty, I found the fastest way to deal with enemies was to just bait counters or spam the heavy ranged throw and runic attacks. For the last like ~two hours of GoW I completed every encounter by using my four runic attacks in a cycle.

Nioh enemies are way more varied, and I thought the game did a much better job of setting up interesting arenas to fight them in. The combat is actually fun, too.
 

Aniki

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There's a fair few people who bring it up as a negative for GoW. That said, that game has a lot to do outside of combat (story, puzzles, exploration) + the encounter design is way more interesting in how it pairs the enemies.

Nioh is solely combat, and twice as long as a 100% clear of GoW.
No, Nioh is not solely combat, a large part consists of exploring. And unlike GoW you can get past enemies without fighting them.
 

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I'd rather see Team Ninja at least attempt a new Ninja Gaiden before returning to Nioh considering that they play entirely different but I still want a Nioh 2 with much greater enemy variety.

Congratulations to the Team and to Nioh, it is a greatly deserved success especially for a game that was revealed way back on PS3. Looks like all those years and the hard work have paid off.
 

DarthSontin

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It's great to see it sell so well. I'm also impressed by how high the trophy percentages are, meaning that people stick woth it more than other games. The DLC must've sold really well as there are a few DLC trophies at 13%+.
 

crimilde

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It's great to see it sell so well. I'm also impressed by how high the trophy percentages are, meaning that people stick woth it more than other games. The DLC must've sold really well as there are a few DLC trophies at 13%+.

It's definitely my most played game in recent years, I usually drop a game after finishing it. I loved Nioh so much that I can't stop playing. I always go back to it after a while.
 

Kaako

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I hope it sells even more cause it deserves it with all the insane amount of content packed into this game. It just keeps going and going and going lol. Loved every second of it honestly.
 

Gelf

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Always good to see that games like this have a market. I had some issues with it like the low enemy variety and the loot system but the combat was excellent.