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NYT: Army Officer Who Heard Trump’s Ukraine Call Reported Concerns
- Thread starter cameron
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WhAt Is He HiDiNg UnDeR tHe UnIFoRm? Tentacles? Shillary Killton? The mutilated corpse of Ben Ghazi? Just asking questions!
No, seriously, this dude will drop some big stuff, won't he.
Can he pursue anyone criticising him for slander legally? These fucking idiots are just saying what they're saying because of their blind loyalty to Trump, but Vindman shouldn't let them get away with it if he has the power to do anything.
He already has before even arriving. He contradicted much of what Vindman said in what is going to be his prepared statement.
Yes, Sondland "forgot" a lot of things it seems, but I bet there's more. If he has more juicy bits from the perfect call or the "transcript", oh boy.
Funny thing about Sondland is that he went with his attorney to the SCIF yesterday morning to make some...corrections.
I wonder if those corrections will be further negated by what will come out of this today.
"who is the whistleblower? why would i trust a second-hand account?"
"here's a first hand account"
"...that person is a spy".
"here's a first hand account"
"...that person is a spy".
Respect the Military my ass.
I need a compilation video of all the military members Trump and Republicans have insulted for the past 3 years including Mattis to protect themselves.
I need a compilation video of all the military members Trump and Republicans have insulted for the past 3 years including Mattis to protect themselves.
It's not about trying to convince his hardcore base, they are far gone. What this is for is to convince the independence and the Republicans with a conscious that may vote Democrat just so that they can try to right the boat back into the right direction.
And if he's pissing off the military, they may in fact vote Democrat next year. As long as the nominee isn't doing anything stupid or illegal, they should be able to beat Trump next year. This is why I don't support Biden as the nominee, I don't know how many skeletons he have in his closet or if he'll say something stupid to a minority base and pissed them off.
And if he's pissing off the military, they may in fact vote Democrat next year. As long as the nominee isn't doing anything stupid or illegal, they should be able to beat Trump next year. This is why I don't support Biden as the nominee, I don't know how many skeletons he have in his closet or if he'll say something stupid to a minority base and pissed them off.
Loyalty to United States apparently = Loyalty to Donald Trump
Fuck anyone who tows this anti-american line
Fuck anyone who tows this anti-american line
I too was planning my espionage lifestyle at the age of 3. I escaped the home that was my prison to the park on several occasions. My plans were starting to come together.
Do they realize this is a one time gamble
Are they expecting everyone watching this to forget?
I mean... maybe a lot of our population is complacent impressionable sheep but cmon now
Amazing that he's in full uniform. You would think the right would hesitate with the smears but....
"I'm so fucking tired of this shit".This about sums it up
Amen.
Republicans are spineless fucking scum. As long as the base is fully committed to Trump then they will smear and discredit literally anyone who might be damaging to Trump.
I knew this was coming. I told my wife exactly that when I found out he was Ukrainian born.
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I dont know how anyone can hear this endless stream of bullshit excusing Trump of an endless stream of bullshit and believe it.
Imagine a friend has been arrested 37 times for burglary, and you've heard "I got the wrong house", and "I just needed to use the toilet" and "I was checking there were no burglars in there". ...and you STILL go "Well, they're out to get my friend!"
It's amazing when you think about it. This was the party that 10 years ago responded to anyone against the war in Iraq with "why do you hate the troops?" or other crap. Now they actively attack vets and get away with it. Attacking McCain was their trial balloon.
Why don't they do this deposition publicly????
The optics of a military man in full brass condemning trump would be amazing for the odds of a conviction actually happening.
The optics of a military man in full brass condemning trump would be amazing for the odds of a conviction actually happening.
It could possibly(probably) contradict previously given or forthcoming testimony. Let em hang themselves with all the rope they want.
All of these depositions that have been behind closed doors because this is the evidence gathering phase. Soon we will have public testimony with a lot of these same witnesses to present the case to the American people.
To avoid Trump stooges coordinating lies. Sondland already got got.
When they move to public testimony:
"These are Soviet-style show trials!"
Any mention of Russia from Democrats gets met with cries of Red Scare! McCarthyism! from Republicans. Now Repubs are saying Ukraine connection makes this guy a spy?
It's pretty clear here that the next move from the Trump cult is to make the Ukrainians the bad guys in all of this.
"Listen, these Ukrainians are no angels. Where were they during Normandy?"
They especially like dead soldiers so they can utilize them as a cover through crocodile tears to push heinous actions
Maybe the plan is to accuse them of being the Soviet Ukrainian Union, and the USA needs the help of Russia to defeat these evil socialists, which is why Trump is handing the title of President to Putin.
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Torture apologist tries to backpedal:
"I want to clear up a misconception of my remarks on the Laura Ingraham show last night," he told the Washington Examiner Tuesday. "I did not accuse Lt. Col. Vindman of committing the crime of espionage. I have tremendous respect for a decorated officer of the U.S. Army and a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. What I was addressing was a report that Ukrainian officials had sought to contact Vindaman for advice on how to handle Rudy Giuliani acting as a presidential envoy."
"I meant to say that this sounded like an espionage operation by the Ukrainians," he added. "I think it deliberately misconstrues my words to say that the separate issue of the phone call between the U.S. and Ukrainian president through the chain of command constitutes espionage by Vindaman, or that Vindaman is some kind of double agent."
During a segment, Ingraham highlighted a portion of a New York Times report about Vindman's upcoming testimony. She pointed out that Vindman was born in Ukraine and that Ukrainian officials "sought advice from him about how to deal with" Giuliani.
Yoo, 52, now a professor at the University of California, responded to Ingraham, saying, "I find that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."
That's been the move since Manafort got busted. Actually even before that. Because the true move, the point of most of the shit going on these past 3 years, is to lift all sanctions on Russia and to keep that dark money flowing. And in order to do that, you have to throw Ukraine to the wolves.
I said Damn! One of the more solid burns I have seen on Cable News ever.
They're gonna bring all the hearings with the important witnesses again publicly. This part is only private so that people don't coordinate testimonies. These people will all be called back in when we hit the public stage.
It goes back longer than that. Remember that they mocked Kerry's service in 2004, 15 years ago.
They don't and never have cared about "service", it's just a bludgeoning tool they like to wield when they can.
I mean, HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW is this NOT racist? What the fuck!?
Imagine if the guy was Jewish or brown or black who had immigrated to US. You give your all for a country (filled with degenerates in power) and then all of sudden he is NOT American or has other allegiance?
How the fuck is this on nationalized broadcast? Seriously what the fuck!?