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Pete Buttigieg rising to the top in Iowa polls
- Thread starter GrapeApes
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If he does, it's less because of Democrats lack of unification and more about how terrible half of it's citizens are.
Iowa is the first state to hold primary voting. It has a large effect on subsequent primaries because the winner gets more coverage. Snowball effect happens.
dude is blowing all his money there hoping it can parlay into more elsewhere right?
not super suprising, we've known that for weeks
not super suprising, we've known that for weeks
If it's gotta be pete it's gotta be pete and I'll be out there voting for him, but yeah...he does seem really opportunistic and like he's not running because he really has some vision he wants to work toward. I have regular contact with some older white liberals and they do all like Pete, and it's basically because he sounds good. He talks smart and stuff. And he does! He talks very smart-like.
I think the case with some older white liberals and center-left voters is that they're pretty comfortable with the long-term status quo, deep down they think climate change will just work out one way or the other, medicare is working alright for them, and they ultimately, after Trump, just want a president on TV that can cogently express coherent thoughts in full sentences and that they can look at and listen to and say "yeah, I like that guy." And I think Pete looks pretty good from that perspective.
I think the case with some older white liberals and center-left voters is that they're pretty comfortable with the long-term status quo, deep down they think climate change will just work out one way or the other, medicare is working alright for them, and they ultimately, after Trump, just want a president on TV that can cogently express coherent thoughts in full sentences and that they can look at and listen to and say "yeah, I like that guy." And I think Pete looks pretty good from that perspective.
Who the hell is this guy? Never heard of him? Did he solely only campaign in Iowa or something?
Mass media agenda. Show biased news for too long and people will believe it. Bernie Sanders is getting robbed and it's all because of media hiding his winnings in plain sight.
The fact that he is not suing the media for doing it's best to sabotage his numbers and hide them...
petes a smart dude.
I feel like sometimes we're kidding ourselves when we believe for half a second that we will get someone like Bernie or Warren into the Whitehouse.
You think the rich are just gonna let us do that?
We have to start small.
It shouldn't only be Berne/warren/the squad in congress representing progressives. We need to start electing more of those candidates nationwide before we even think we can get the presidency.
Just look at all the precursors to trump.
the cons didn't just start with him, they've been going mask off for decades.
I feel like sometimes we're kidding ourselves when we believe for half a second that we will get someone like Bernie or Warren into the Whitehouse.
You think the rich are just gonna let us do that?
We have to start small.
It shouldn't only be Berne/warren/the squad in congress representing progressives. We need to start electing more of those candidates nationwide before we even think we can get the presidency.
Just look at all the precursors to trump.
the cons didn't just start with him, they've been going mask off for decades.
Nothing homophobic about making jokes about who is the bottom.
It's always been very cool and appreciated
This is kind of my take, too. Warren screwed up with her healthcare plan, and he's now the fresh face that some people have moved to as people got disillusioned. Hoping Warren can make a comeback.
Her first 100 days plan for healthcare that came out ~yesterday was a step in the right direction, but it also somehow resulted in her having a position on healthcare than the public option, so ...ugh. I'm surprised we didn't have a thread on this, actually.
He's the mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He started off as one of those also-rans but beat Beto in the "charismatic new young white guy" lane.
I'm shocked there wasn't a thread in here as well
I would expect there to be a 10 page thread that eventually get closed
Live by the polls die by the polls. At this point I just want this damn thing to start already.
I'll do it. And try to hopefully make an OP that won't make it a shitshow.
I've got some Iowa friends who love him, so I think probably yes. Its kinda a smart idea. Iowa's caucus is first (and he doesn't have much chance of besting Sanders/Warrens in their home areas). He gets publicitiy out of this. It helps boost him enough to keep raising money elsewhere and continue.
Psst. Pete is from Harvard. He's even a Rhodes scholar. Basically there is no way to compete with the cultural and marketing cachet of that educational background in America. Warren might as well went to Trump university. None of the candidates can compete with that background directly.
Here's another thing you aren't noticing. Pete is from the midwest. When Americans think of intellectual elites...they think of the coasts.
Pete by being an elite of the midwest will garner more hype as the new great white hope of the poor so to speak.
yeah I'm not at all convinced Pete winning Iowa would ultimately lead to Biden steamrolling in SC, NV and Super Tuesday
He's not in my top three. But I'll easily back him if he's the candidate. I hope he's not, but I'm not gonna shit on the Trump contender at this point.
Eric Swalwell of all people ethered Pete in the second debate.
Now that Pete is flavor of the month, let´s see how he handles the pressure and the fact that he´s fake on almost every issue. Somebody will take him out and i have a feeling Tulsi is going after him.
Now that Pete is flavor of the month, let´s see how he handles the pressure and the fact that he´s fake on almost every issue. Somebody will take him out and i have a feeling Tulsi is going after him.
I'd rather have some milquetoast insults thrown at me while still retaining a shitton more voting power than other states
Ted Cruz, Santorum, Tom Harkin (who?), Bob Dole (1988), Dick Gephardt, George Bush Sr (1980) all won Iowa and went down in flames later.
For what it's worth, the poster of that joke is a gay man making a joke at the expense of another gay man.
Then ask for specifics? You simply asked where the hate is coming from and guy gave you an answer, not his fault you were being super general.
You hope the guy who caped for extremely racist cops wins?
Fuck Pete and his boot licking ass
The ultimate centrist candidate, even stands up for racists cops.
The ultimate centrist candidate, even stands up for racists cops.
Who knew folks are drawn to a candidate that's willing to be honest about healthcare.
Its still Iowa. Just like Warren, his minority support is awful. The real takeaway here is twitter liberals remain out of touch.
I'm in a minority on this one clearly but I've been keeping an eye on Buttigieg since he announced his candidacy. Happy to see his campaign start to make some serious waves. He's rightly positioned himself to attack Warren for her vague M4A plan and seems to have capitalized on the skepticism towards her candidacy after its eventual release.
Will happily pivot back to Warren or Sanders if he's unable to follow through in Iowa though.
Will happily pivot back to Warren or Sanders if he's unable to follow through in Iowa though.
Warren has much better minority support than Pete by several miles lmao what are you smoking
He's not being honest, he's being sleazy and using right wing talking points when months ago he demonstrated that he knew better.