It might not even make a profitBiggest video game movie opening ever. So compared to that it's great. Shrug
It might not even make a profitBiggest video game movie opening ever. So compared to that it's great. Shrug
It will. Of course it will. What's your source btw?
For a summer blockbuster, my estimate for a heavily marketed movie:
P&A = production budget*2
150 production + 300 P&A = 450 budget
Keep in mind transformers movie came out in 2007...12 years ago.
It likely needs to hit around 500m to make a profit given the marketing + budget. Which is not a lock that it will hit that.
So these are all very rough estimates with no sourcing. GotchaIt likely needs to hit around 500m to make a profit given the marketing + budget. Which is not a lock that it will hit that.
Avengers is soon to be the biggest movie OF ALL TIME. not a great comparison...I mean, it couldn't even do more than Avengers, and that's it's 3rd weekend after release. The way people are spinning a mediocre reception is incredible.
Biggest video game movie opening ever. So compared to that it's great. Shrug
We have the opening weekend numbers, thats the source. We have the budget, thats the source.So these are all very rough estimates with no sourcing. Gotcha
We have the opening weekend numbers, thats the source. We have the budget, thats the source.
What is this no source thing? lol
I don't wish the movie any ill will, but the numbers aren't special. The fact that it beat Tomb Raider 2001 by 11 million isn't that exciting. With inflation, Tomb Raider 2001's 47 million opening weekend is 67 million in today's market.
Obviously you like the movie and you feel protective of it. That's fine, go on and love it, and it's cool that this is the biggest video game opening ever. But it's also an objectively mediocre opening weekend box office performance, even without factoring in the comparatively explosive numbers of Endgame.
If the film doesn't have a huge breakout, yeah, there's a chance that it won't make back its total budget (production + marketing). That's just my take from many years of watching box office numbers. It's not definitive and time will ultimately tell.
It didn't just beat a movie from 18 years ago. Did you block it from your brain that they made a new tomb raider movie a year ago? It beat that one too. It's the biggest opening for a movie based on a video game ever. So it's beat all of them, new and old. That objective. And I haven't seen the movie.We have the opening weekend numbers, thats the source. We have the budget.
What is this no source thing? We have enough info to make reasonable predictions.
That is completely irrelevant to it making a profit. Tomb Raider was a massive bomb. We know the average marketing spend on a summer film like thtis.It didn't just beat a movie from 18 years ago. Did you block it from your brain that they made a new tomb raider movie a year ago? It beat that one too. It's the biggest opening for a movie based on a video game ever. So it's beat all of them, new and old. That objective. And I haven't seen the movie.
You dont know marketing. You are making up numbers to fit your argument.
What is your source?That is completely irrelevant to it making a profit. Tomb Raider was a massive bomb. We know the average marketing spend on a summer film like thtis.
450-500m is a very safe conservative estimate of what is needed to generate profit.
That seems kinda low. Great endgame numbers though. The thing that might save Pokémon is this movie is just a giant ad for its other media and merchandise. So they might wanna keep investing in it if it grows the brand even more.
That is completely irrelevant to it making a profit. Tomb Raider was a massive bomb. We know the average marketing spend on a summer film like thtis.
450-500m is a very safe conservative estimate of what is needed to generate profit.
It didn't just beat a movie from 18 years ago. Did you block it from your brain that they made a new tomb raider movie a year ago? It beat that one too. It's the biggest opening for a movie based on a video game ever. So it's beat all of them, new and old. That objective. And I haven't seen the movie.
You dont know marketing. You are making up numbers to fit your argument.
It's not bad at all. It's good. It's fine. It's not amazing but it's not bad
When you factor in inflation like that you don't consider those that wouldn't have seen the movie due to the cost. So it's not that simple. The new tomb raider bombed. This Pokemon film is a far stretch from that.The new Tomb Raider wasn't very successful in its own right. I don't see any numbers that I made up. I said that with inflation, Tomb Raider 2001's 47 million opening weekend is 67 million in today's market. That's true. Anyway, numbers on that scale aren't special in today's day and age.
These are considered successful opening numbers. This is just a range of recent genre movies:
Transformers: Age of Extinction --- $100,038,390
Logan --- $88,411,916
Fast & Furious 6 --- $97,375,245
The Jungle Book --- $103,261,464
Captain Marvel --- $153,433,423
Pokemon is at least as big an IP as Marvel or Transformers, etc.
In general, when it comes to marketing numbers, you take a film's budget, and the marketing cost is an additional 75% or 100% of that budget. So if a film cost 150 million to make, it will generally cost 100 or 150 million to market. It's just a rule of thumb.
Yes, this movie is the biggest video game opening. It's also a mediocre start to its box office run. This isn't a controversial statement, honestly.
Endgame's budget (not including marketing and such) was 356M. Detective Pikachu's (not including marketing and such) was ~150M. Endgame's marketing was also orders of magnitude bigger than DP, so no, $450M (200-300M P&A) estimated total budget isn't that big at all. Movies are expensive.
They always greenlight future movies of potential universes now. But it will just as easily be shelved had this been a stupendous bomb. But now we wait.I rember reading a report that wb has already greenlit another movie, wounder if they go through with it?
Fair enough, I would have thought it would do much more, but to be honest I haven't paid it much attention.
You get out what you put in. If they took more time to polish up the Pokémon designs and gave it an actual plot instead of hoping that Ryan Reynolds and the fans opinions that the Pokémon designs look cool and cute (they really don't to most casual viewers that I've talked to) then it would have performed betterI mean, it couldn't even do more than Avengers, and that's it's 3rd weekend after release. The way people are spinning a mediocre reception is incredible.
But $60M opening is actually pretty great for any other movies (and okay-ish for big budget movies). Avengers is just doing that incredibly well.I mean, it couldn't even do more than Avengers, and that's it's 3rd weekend after release. The way people are spinning a mediocre reception is incredible.
Anyone subjecting themselves to this movie more than once deserve a medal.
It also broke the record for highest grossing movie about an electric rat, and the record for highest grossing movie starring Justice Smith.
How many more "records" will it break?
Even worse is the amount of vitriol it gets thrown at because of some peoples extremely high expectations.
It's just a fun movie man. Let people share their love for something they liked, there's no need to be a dick about it.
"This movie isn't good"
"Hey a lot of people liked it actually"
"WOW!! Defense force much!!"
Anyone subjecting themselves to this movie more than once deserve a medal.
It also broke the record for highest grossing movie about an electric rat, and the record for highest grossing movie starring Justice Smith.
How many more "records" will it break?
Totally agree. The movie was fun and all but one time is more than enough at least for me. It's really just alright and nothing special. Worth the watch I guess and decent results nonetheless (great for a video game movie though).
The source is maths.
The defense for this movie sure is something else lol
Hey, it's all very meaningful, and we eating tonight boys and girls
Source?No; actual budget when you account for marketing and such was ~450M. With strong legs, it will probably barely break even or be a small loss.
It opened in more cinemas than Star Wars: The Force Awakens.The movie opened in much less cinemas than it normally should be, because Avengers still block many cinemas.