before. you gotta have faith in arecus
or flareon
but you know
no moves
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Pokémon Sword and Shield announced. Coming Late 2019
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but you know
no moves
I guess I mean that poison and steel types do pretty well in this meta. And the Eevee line usually has a couple of great TM/egg moves they can be really threatening with the right typing
130 atk/110 speed(or swapped) Ghost Eeveelution could be pretty sweet. Though Ghost might have to get a decent general use physical move first.
Still being salty about no battle frontier is getting lame 5 years down the line as well :P
edit: to be serious I'm not defending the fact that there isnt a frontier, what I'm saying is that paticular statement I quoted was incorrect.
I'd like to see a heavy hitter Eevelution with 130 attack and 110 speed, would be cool for a Steel type or Ghost type for sure. Should have been what Flareon is but it got screwed by the original special mechanics so each evolution got both high special attack and defense.
I laughed am I bad person..
I'm fairly confident it'll be at E3. I really don't think they'd have the info in CoroCoro Ichiban if it was coming before E3.
Shoutout to Sun/Moon for letting you get a level 10 Salamence early on.
eevee turns into a gas, becoming ghost-like
or puts on a spoopy mask and becomes Carly Beth
an eeveelution that's actually usable is something people want. GF should give it too them
Question, in universe, how to scale are the towns and cities in-game compared to what they are in the lore? Like Pallet town, is it supposed to be just 3 buildings or is their supposed to be more?
Or gains supernatural like powers like Ghostrider or hunts ghosts like a Ghostbuster.
As in virtually all video games, they are supposed to be bigger. Just as in Oblivion the capital of the Empire does not have 50 citizens.
Pokémon Sword and Shield introduce two new Eeveelutions! To discover these new Pokémon, players simply toss their Eevees off a cliff. If the Eevee learns to fly, it becomes a Flying type! If it does not, it becomes a Ghost type!
Virtually every town in the mainline Pokemon games are based on a real life one. Just compare them to their irl counterpart and that's probably the size it's supposed to actually be.
Honestly, story aside, , I think it's one of the better third versions in terms of addition/changes of content.
- Sidequests in a pokemon game. Reallly adds life to the region.
- Way more pokemon in the overworld, you can spot many like Murkrow, Bewear, Magmar, Wingull and more hanging out in certain areas, and you can play with other people's pokemon too. Makes the USUM version of Alola feel much better.
- regional alola pokedex expanded by 100 pokemon to include much more choice.
- roto lotto (basically the return of O-powers)
- Postgame is much better with Battle Agency, Rainbow Rocket, and Ultra Warp Ride added on.
- The ability to own totem sized pokemon yourself.
- encountering ultra beasts in their own environment. Finding Guzzlord eating a city instead of just on a random route was so much better.
- a lot of smaller improvements, like SOS battles being a lot less annoying, being able to get vikavolt earlier in the game, etc
Among a lot more.
Unfortunately the story was royally fucked up. The entire Lusamine family had their intentions so muddled, ultra recon squad sucks ass, rotom dex is way more annoying, and the final battle with Hau isnt nearly as impactful as battling Kukui in vanilla SM.
I still give US/UM the edge as the better game, but it's a bummer that it failed to be the "definitive edition". It was just SM, better in some aspects, worse in others. Which makes it probably the worst third version to me, even though I feel it added more than Emerald added to Ruby/Sapphire.
What I stated is that there are complaints, and that's not my opinion, it's a fact.
Your reading comprehension is terrible, I didn't put words in your mouth. I know full well that you didn't say that "people shouldn't be disappointed," I brought up the disappointment to show how people expected Emerald content to be included as part of the remakes. Which in turn, defeats the entire purpose of your argument about the games' nomenclature reflecting the original games that it is trying to remake. To recap, you started out the chain of quotes with:
And you further emphasized that point by saying that ORAS is a remake of R/S, and thus, it was never aiming to be Emerald, which is still wrong when you consider Game Freak's history of adding content from older games into the remakes. And how HeartGold and SoulSilver being remakes of Gold and Silver, didn't stop GF from implementing Crystal content and even going above and beyond (replacing the Battle Tower with Gen IV's Battle Frontier, implementing following Pokemon, and so on). Or how FireRed and LeafGreen were remakes of Red and Blue, didn't stop Game Freak from implementing a new post-game island, as well as Gen III QOL features.
Those are not good examples.
The only reason why we got Battle Frontier in HGSS is because it already existed for Platinum. So nothing related to the remake.
Both ORAS and LGPE implemented their respective Gen QOL features.
ORAS didn't have following Pokémon and "so on", but had Soaring the Sky, new Mega Evolutions and "so on" .
I missed Emerald's specific plot structure, but the more fleshed out plot and characterization we did get in ORAS was good, I dug the Delta Emerald content, felt like the Maison was more than enough postgame battle content for my tastes, liked soaring and the host of legendaries tied into it, liked the secret base improvements, and liked the Mauville overhaul.
shouldn't have toned down the trumpets tho
shouldn't have toned down the trumpets tho
What does HGSS have to do with all this? If we're talking about that, HGSS are remakes of Gold/Silver and not crystal. But they decided to add the content in anyways. ORAS was remakes of Ruby/Sapphire, and they didnt include the Frontier from Emerald.
Literally all I'm saying is that the statement made originally by that other poster was incorrect.
It can't be hard to grasp a simple concept.
And while we're at it, it's not as if ORAS didnt add stuff over the originals as well.
The improvements features in gens 4-6, like physical/special, infinite TM's, PSS, Pokemon Amie, super training, 9 new pokemon that were evos of Hoenn pokemon (something HGSS didnt do, you cant get mons like Magnezone, Leafeon, Glaceon in it), mega evolutions of a lot of Hoenn mons, and the stuff ORAS itself added, like DexNav, Soaring, Mirage Islands, along with revamped secret bases, trainer rebattles, and so on.
Nothing ORAS adds is better than the stuff in Emerald like BF and gym rematches. And there's absolutely no way to justify it. People expected the definitive version with all the content from gen 3, they didn't get it and everyone is justified to complain without people coming up with "But Actually..."
Gimme that Buck side story
My favorite trainer design in the series constantly gets shafted :///
Coincidentally, the 3DS games are when the Gen 1 pandering began in full force.
Also, edit: ORAS is better than RSE if only for Beefcake Archie
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The dark foggy forest they showed was what immediately caught my eye. I don't think we ever had such a location in the series and I don't even know where it is on the map. Can't wait to see what it is.To change the topic to something (hopefully) more positive, what is everyone's favorite area shown so far for SWSH? Mine is probably the snowy city, I'm a sucker for Christmas-y looking stuff lol. I love the lights.
There have been complaints since the beginning. People complained about gen 3, then about gen 4, then gen 5 (yes, everyone's precious gen 5 was criticized to hell and back and to say otherwise is revisionist history). It's not a fact that the 3DS gens are the only ones with complaints, so saying people only shit on gen 1 and 2 to dismiss criticism of newer gens doesn't make sense. People are allowed to dislike gen 1 as much as you're allowed to dislike gen 7.
It doesn't make sense. Most people who put gen 1 down in their lists (like me) also have several of the 3DS games low. lol
Huh? Who ever says gen 5 wasn't criticized? If anything it's the opposite and is what causes the wars here, from people to this day attacking vanilite.
Emerald's BF does really nothing for me other than the Battle Factory, which is better in Platinum anyway.
Tower: Same as always and it's in every game.
Pike: Short and based on randomness.
Arena: I'd rather just play regular battles.
Dome: This always felt like a Tower re-skin with some underlying mechanics that most people won't even pick up on.
Palace: This place should have had the Luck Symbol, not the Pike. Awful.
Pyramid: I played this one the least but the premise is interesting and I would have liked them to build upon it in Platinum. I guess they decided to streamline it and make the Battle Castle instead.
Platinum's BF was miles better. I was thinking with the gyms in S/S that it would be cool to add in some BF-like mechanics if they decide to get rid of the puzzle aspect.
Tower: Same as always and it's in every game.
Pike: Short and based on randomness.
Arena: I'd rather just play regular battles.
Dome: This always felt like a Tower re-skin with some underlying mechanics that most people won't even pick up on.
Palace: This place should have had the Luck Symbol, not the Pike. Awful.
Pyramid: I played this one the least but the premise is interesting and I would have liked them to build upon it in Platinum. I guess they decided to streamline it and make the Battle Castle instead.
Platinum's BF was miles better. I was thinking with the gyms in S/S that it would be cool to add in some BF-like mechanics if they decide to get rid of the puzzle aspect.
Saying complaints started with the alleged decrease in quality of the 3DS games implies gen 5 was fine
I actually prefer ORAS to RSE. I liked the story, characters, and design a lot better among other things.
That started with gen 5. They started pushing gen 1 harder with B2W2 in response to the reaction BW got. Those Pokemon being in the game was the big selling point when they started talking about the games. The anime also started doing stuff like bringing back Charizard and giving Iris a Dragonite.
His argument is that people criticize gen 1 to sidestep criticism towards recent gens, instead of, you know, Gen 1 actually having many flaws.
It's honestly not an argument worth engaging.
People who don't like gen 5 are completely different from the profile of people who criticize the 3DS era. Gen 5 is everything I want from Pokémon, XY is Kanto 2.0 and ORAS is the biggest disappointment I have in the franchise.
ORAS are awesome and about as good as Emerald, they do many things better although Emerald is a different experience that still really holds up.
At the end of the day there will always be people who don't like a gen, trying to pass anything as fact like some people do is stupid. Gen 1 and 6 are my least favorite but I still like them, I won't shit on gen 1 to try to elevate gen 7 lol.
At the end of the day there will always be people who don't like a gen, trying to pass anything as fact like some people do is stupid. Gen 1 and 6 are my least favorite but I still like them, I won't shit on gen 1 to try to elevate gen 7 lol.
I love random challenges. They're fun and make for variety. Also, the thing I like the most in Pokémon is battling new unique boss characters and having that in the post-game is the best.
The point is that there's a group of people who feel like the franchise went wrong starting from XY when it contrasted with BW and they share a few general opinions. It's not like everyone is the same, I like SM for example, even though I dislike everything else since XY, but it means there are some general complaints that are made by a sizeable group of people: gen 1 pandering, poor map design, etc.
I think me not liking RSE is why I like ORAS, plus it had PSS which pushes it to A tier by default for me. Same with XY.
Phew, I was NOT happy when I found out Sun and Moon didn't have it. I just needed to trade a Machoke, one simple thing that was easy and simple in Gen 1.
Phew, I was NOT happy when I found out Sun and Moon didn't have it. I just needed to trade a Machoke, one simple thing that was easy and simple in Gen 1.
I also agree with the general complaints you mentioned, but that doesn't mean, to me, that there's been a decrease in quality. There are general complaints about every gen that most people usually share (gen 4 is slow, gen 5 is linear, gen 2 has a busted level curve, etc)
I guess
TBH? I think B2W2 is a step down BW. But I like BW a lot, so...
Nah it started with XY imo. It always made sense to me that BW2 would have older Pokemon in it to provide a difference experience from BW, but there's only like 38 Kanto Pokemon in that game out of 300.
XY was the one where it felt weirdly hollow about it, with whole plot beats and events just purely imitating R/B and in some cases the devs just rerunning Kanto Pokemon in a place where a new Pokemon would've gone, like with the legendary birds and Mewtwo postgame fights. That, combined with the lowest amount of new Pokemon in series history and folks got jaded. And things went on from there.
Welp, to me there's a very sharp decline in quality, content and general "freshness" from BW/BW2 to XY/ORAS. Feels like they jumped into an abyss quality wise. Then SM started recovering it and they brought it down by ruining the story, the best aspect of Alola, in USUM and then jumped straight into the hole with LGPE.
But SwSh looks fine so far and I think it'll be good.
I also felt the sharp decline because of XY, but every game since has been totally fine to me... well except Let's Go, but for my own sanity I'll never consider that game as anything more than a weird experiment
Really? That's interesting, I wonder if that means we'll get access to some neat Ghost and Grass-types early on! Would love to see another gen with an early Phantump.
