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Quinton

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To all of you thinking second leaker is real.

Wake up. Do you remember MGS2. I'm not saying Kojima is responsible for the second leak fake shit. He isn't. But this has his footprint all over it. Think about it. What did MGS2 teach us. Everything that appears real is a lie. A fiction for a society. We didn't even play as Snake. The second leaker shows us a lizard evolution. Which is practically a snake. And in the Garden of Eden. That was a snake too. Practically a lizard.

Do you actually believe that Kojima. The god of secrecy. And turnabouts. Would show what you actually do in Death Stranding in gameplay videos. No. Don't buy the second leaker fake either then. Simple as. When Sword and Shield are out your minds are going to be blown. You are not ready. None of us are. Sobble's final evolution... what does it matter when Sobble itself is an illusion. That's right. Kojima played us all like fiddles just like in MGS2.
 

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Mekanos said:
How do you explain the second leaker posting designs that match the second forms within an hour or two? Do you think they conceived and modeled them that quickly?
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This is my take on it.

Electivire said:
You talking about Sobble3 and Grookey3? The sleeping guy said he doesn't know if those are real because he was 7 levels away from finding out. If he wakes up and his Grookey3 evolves into what we know now then fine the other guy is legit in my eyes.

I believe the sleeping guy because of the Elephant screen shot. The other person just kind of showed up and started posting pics in the middle of it. The other guy hasn't posted a pic that swayed me to thinking he's 100% legit.
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Quinton said:
To all of you thinking second leaker is real.

Wake up. Do you remember MGS2. I'm not saying Kojima is responsible for the second leak fake shit. He isn't. But this has his footprint all over it. Think about it. What did MGS2 teach us. Everything that appears real is a lie. A fiction for a society. We didn't even play as Snake. The second leaker shows us a lizard evolution. Which is practically a snake. And in the Garden of Eden. That was a snake too. Practically a lizard.

Do you actually believe that Kojima. The god of secrecy. And turnabouts. Would show what you actually do in Death Stranding in gameplay videos. No. Don't buy the second leaker fake either then. Simple as. When Sword and Shield are out your minds are going to be blown. You are not ready. None of us are. Sobble's final evolution... what does it matter when Sobble itself is an illusion. That's right. Kojima played us all like fiddles just like in MGS2.
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Okay now the thread is fun again.
 
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Quinton said:
To all of you thinking second leaker is real.

Wake up. Do you remember MGS2. I'm not saying Kojima is responsible for the second leak fake shit. He isn't. But this has his footprint all over it. Think about it. What did MGS2 teach us. Everything that appears real is a lie. A fiction for a society. We didn't even play as Snake. The second leaker shows us a lizard evolution. Which is practically a snake. And in the Garden of Eden. That was a snake too. Practically a lizard.

Do you actually believe that Kojima. The god of secrecy. And turnabouts. Would show what you actually do in Death Stranding in gameplay videos. No. Don't buy the second leaker fake either then. Simple as. When Sword and Shield are out your minds are going to be blown. You are not ready. None of us are. Sobble's final evolution... what does it matter when Sobble itself is an illusion. That's right. Kojima played us all like fiddles just like in MGS2.
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Why are we still here? Just to sobble?
 

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Burrman said:
Just that one? Or the others too?
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just sobble and grookey.

this is grookey:

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The only way I can see the second leaker being fake is if he was someone planning a fake before the 1st put out legit screenshots. After seeing the real leak he photoshopped his models onto the real Pokedex backgrounds from the first guy. Though that seems really unlikely to me.
 
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So what do we think are the typings of the leaked mons?

I'm thinking Fire/Dark or Fire/Ground for the fox. Fire/Electric for the Elephant, Poison/Electric was confirmed for the dino, Water/Poison for Sobble3, and Grass/Normal or Grass/Fighting for Grookey3, also I think Meowth was confirmed Steel
 
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snikdasnek said:
So what do we think are the typings of the leaked mons?

I'm thinking Fire/Dark or Fire/Ground for the fox. Fire/Electric for the Elephant, Poison/Electric was confirmed for the dino, Water/Poison for Sobble3, and Grass/Normal or Grass/Fighting for Grookey3, also I think Meowth was confirmed Steel
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I'm thinking Fire/Elec (it learns Spark and has high energy a la Energizer Bunny), Water/Poison or Water/Psychic (Fairly self-explanatory), Grass/No Clue. Don't think they'd do another Grass/Fighting so soon. Maybe pure Grass?

EDIT: Misread these as the types for the starters.
 
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General rule of thumb with Pokemon leaks is the uglier the design, the more likely it's real.
 
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The guy just put super sayian 3 hair on a gorilla and called it a day. How can we trust that? Lol this thread has been hilarious.
 
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unholyFarmer said:
While it is really hard to imagine how could the 2nd leaker come up with the designs so quickly, the coincidences puzzle me.
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To be clear, I think the takeaway from the "coincidence" is that leaker 2 is "responding" to leaker 1. Which makes me wonder who the second leaker is and how they have Dex ready to be used like that.
 

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Mekanos said:
It doesn't explain how Grookey3 and Sobble3 have design elements that are present in Grookey2 and Sobble2, which were only known a couple of hours before the third forms went up.
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I'm not here to explain how and why people do what they do. The 2nd leaker May be legit or not all I'm saying is that I don't fully believe him yet.

I'm amaze that's your argument. Within 20 minutes of something being officially revealed there's fan art all over the place but for whatever reason people can't make drafts based off of a leak 2hrs prior.
 
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Electivire said:
I'm not here to explain how and why people do what they do. The 2nd leaker May be legit or not all I'm saying is that I don't fully believe him yet.

I'm amaze that's your argument. Within 20 minutes of something being officially revealed there's fan art all over the place but for whatever reason people can't make drafts based off of a leak 2hrs prior.
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Make full detailed drafts and renders in an hour?
 
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Let's have a challenge. Let's all pick the starter we like the least and let's see if playing with it through the whole game can make us change our mind.
It didn't work when I tried with Incineroar in Ultra Sun lolz
 
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Electivire said:
I'm not here to explain how and why people do what they do. The 2nd leaker May be legit or not all I'm saying is that I don't fully believe him yet.

I'm amaze that's your argument. Within 20 minutes of something being officially revealed there's fan art all over the place but for whatever reason people can't make drafts based off of a leak 2hrs prior.
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Do you understand how long it takes to render a 3D model that high quality?
 
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Okay now it's been long enough that folks are churning out fake models using the res background
 
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The Grookey final stage bothers me. It has that Tangrowth problem of it'd be too busy to draw all those plants so it's just a big blob. The drum seemingly being full time is annoying; they keep giving these Pokemon gimmicks which just means a signature move or two since they have to have the same boring starter ability.

If it kept the drum on its back and pulled it out for a move, I'd probably be a lot warmer to it. I can't believe they made a Pokemon around that Cadbury Creme commercial so extra points for that.
 
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Guys I think this has gone on long enough. I created every single pokemon "leaked" today in Microsoft Excel. Was fun while it lasted but pack it up.
 
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Electivire said:
I'm not here to explain how and why people do what they do. The 2nd leaker May be legit or not all I'm saying is that I don't fully believe him yet.

I'm amaze that's your argument. Within 20 minutes of something being officially revealed there's fan art all over the place but for whatever reason people can't make drafts based off of a leak 2hrs prior.
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Dude come on, what are you blabbing about. This is embarrassing.
 
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it's not impossible he could've had fake leaks in the making and adjusted them a bit after seeing the 2nd evos but occam's razor yadada probably real.
 
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PeacefulDream said:
The Grookey final stage bothers me. It has that Tangrowth problem of it'd be too busy to draw all those plants so it's just a big blob. The drum seemingly being full time is annoying; they keep giving these Pokemon gimmicks which just means a signature move or two since they have to have the same boring starter ability.

If it kept the drum on its back and pulled it out for a move, I'd probably be a lot warmer to it. I can't believe they made a Pokemon around that Cadbury Creme commercial so extra points for that.
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its an idle pose, for all we know, and its most likely the case,it will move its drum and carry it, either in its hands or on its back, when in motion, I doubt it would want to lug it around all the time
 
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An illustration is way different than a fake 3D model. Today they even tried to pass one and it was immediately debunked.
 
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