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Pokemon Sword & Shield: Master Ball Tier Players in ranked battles were banned with ratings erased [Update: Now Fixed]
- Thread starter Theorymon
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This is so bizarre, guess that I am lucky it took me a while to perfect my team so I'm only great ball tier.
Does his error message say he's banned? Is he incapable of paying other elements online?
No. He's not banned.
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I don't understand this, its a bug that's causing controversy in the competitive community. Why wouldn't I talk about it now when its causing panic over there?
If only there was a terminology frequently used for being either temporarily or permanently unable to access a service...
if it's working for other people, why shouldn't people who reached that tier before maintenance be angry? people are paying money for nso, and it is hard to get to that level of play. it is weird as hell to be calling out people affected by it and being more worried about word usage than the actual end result of paying players not being able to play their games.
Literally nobody cares about the exact wording on the error message. That's literally irrelevant. The end result I'm talking about is that this subset of players can't access ranked battles
Nope. Been following competitive for only the last few years and I never noticed anything strange.
Again this article is pure semantics. Whether he was banned erroneously or this is the result of some other system malfunctioning, nothing changes at all for the experience Sejun or myself or any other affected player is dealing with
Because it makes the pokemon fanbase seem whiny and uninformed, and serves to continue showing how dramatic the gaming community is? I swear some people in this thread would benefit massively in taking a rhetoric class. How you communicate and use of accurate terminology matters a lot more than you think.
Yeah, I think arguing over the word banned is pedantry of the highest order.
They cannot access their stats or modes, legitimately earned, and cannot play ranked battles. That is a problem. Fix it.
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That said, the competitive community needs to stop freaking the fuck out.
They cannot access their stats or modes, legitimately earned, and cannot play ranked battles. That is a problem. Fix it.
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That said, the competitive community needs to stop freaking the fuck out.
Obviously it's fine to bring this to the attention of the developers but how quickly and gleefully some leap to say they are incompetent, it's quite pathetic.
Nobody would be defending this if it was a franchise that wasn't Pokemon. Being super caught up in a trivial semantic difference doesn't make you smart, it makes you an asshole
Glad I just read three pages of people arguing semantics over this instead of just agreeing that it sucks that people in Master Ball Tier are unable to use the feature of the game they most likely bought it for, lol.
Wait, do you think it's intentional or something?
That's ridiculous.
Actually the general "it's probably a bug, let's wait to see what they say" sentiment is a very common response to problems like these when they occur in other big online games (and they do occur in other big online games a lot).
I don't think I understand what you're trying to convey here.
Of course, your ranking is meaningful when you're playing a competitive game online. But, by definition, the Pokémon online ladder is temporary : all our rankings will be deleted in 25 days or so.
I don't know when you started laddering on SwSh, but the game has been out for three weeks. If, God forbbids, the rankings can't be restored, you have more time until the end of the season to get a new ranking that you have had so far to get it. And, to be honest, your new ranking will be more accurate as more and more people are able to play.
If all the rankings had been deleted just before the end of the season (December 31st?), it would have been a different conversation.
This is specificially because nobody is defending bugs that you can describe them as controversial. But maybe this is something lost in translation for me because I am not a native english speaker.
Hey I was really upset that I couldn't play ranked and that my rank may have been completely erased, but after hearing that the word ban may not be 100% appropriate for the situation that's occuring I've decided that nothing wrong has happened and I have no reason to be upset even though functionality that I'm paying for in a game that I paid for is not working for me
The servers aren't down. People are playing right now and there are new people reaching Master Ball Tier and claiming the #1 spot.
If you're going the maintenance route, then literally everyone would be unable to play.
This is a subset of people.
But then this is incompetence?
It's either a mistake, or intentional malice, and it's very silly for anyone to assume it's malice.
There are literally several people that care about people bastardizing the word literally, the hyperbolic use of literally needs to be toned the fuck down.
Downtine because of maintenance means no one can play. A specific group of players unable to access the ranked battles when the majority still can means they ficked up somewhere.
Downtime from maintenance doesn't effect only a specific subset of players on only a specific feature
Then let's just wait until the bug gets fixed before jumping to (ridiculous) conclusions like that people are banned permanently :)
Oh hey cool, a pointless arguement about the way language use changes over time that won't change anything ever because the vast majority of people don't care, and will literally never care because it's a super pedantic issue that any reasonable person can solve just by keeping context in mind
Nobody here has even once suggested the bans will be permanent because they obviously won't be because it's obviously not intentional because that obviously wouldn't make any fucking sense
That I can agree with. But even a temp ban by mistake and being unable to play the game you spent money for and very likely for that purpose is a legitimate reason to be outspoken for.
Most rational people are not saying they've been banned permanently. Shadow bans exist. Temporary bans exist. This was most definitely a mistake, but all the semantics like "wuhhh you weren't BANNED y-you're just,, , unable to play right NOW!!! while everyone ELSE can!!" is wack.
reasonable people also don't freak the fuck out over their toys being unavailable for a bit while the bugs get worked out.
Yes, how dare I be upset that a product I paid for and am continuing to pay for on an ongoing basis isn't working properly. Nevermind the fact that we've been given no official indication of what's been going on or when we can expect an actual fix
Leave it to fanboys to argue the semantics instead of the problem.
Because Nintendo, you know that.
Because Nintendo, you know that.
If I paid for a thing, and it's not working, it is not my job to fucking go online and figure out what exact terminology I am supposed to be using so I can earn the permission to complain about thing I paid for not working.
It's absurd to what cultish degree pokemon fans can go. We are having a very prominent figure in pokemon community sitting here and fucking gatekeeping basic consumer rights. Can we all just do a double take and realize that something is very fucking wrong here?
Reasonable people do in fact complain about services and products that they are paying for not working arbitrarily.
Unreasonable people get more worried about semantics.
Clearly a fair representation of people who think you could have used better phrasing. Goodness.
Bans aren't intrinsically permanent. You want to play silly semantics games don't make silly mistakes like this yourself.
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It is entirely reasonable to complain when a product you bought isn't working properly.
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That's actually not how it works. It's less a deletion, and more like we get a new season for the ladders, but the records of previous seasons are still retained.
Not to brag (ok actually yes to brag because I don't get to talk about this often here lol), if you look at Global Link for Sun and Moon, you can still see who won previous seasons. So for example, the two things I personally won in gen 7 was Battle Spot Special Season 1, and the Ultra Final Online Competiton.
https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/battle/sm/201/#special <--- this is for Battle Spot Special Season 1
https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/competitions/4142/ <--- this is for Ultra Final Competiton
Ultra Final Competition happened pretty recently (in October), but Battle Spot Special 1 happened about 2 years ago. Now of course, these will all be gone when Global Link is discontinued in Feburary, but we got very advanced notice of that, so we can get all of our old rankings via screenshots and the likes. Our battling history in the end won't be "lost".
Since it's been specfically mentioned that Pokemon Home will have a leaderboard for Sword and Shield on it, I'm guessing Pokemon Home will replace the global link's duty of showing a leaderboard. So in the end, this bug is totally different than a usual season reset. With a season reset, we still have our old ratings for that season preserved, and start laddering in a different season. For this, if it isn't fixed, our ratings got destroyed for an ongoing season, and that's a huge willcrusher, especially for how hard it to play Pokemon at that high of a rating!
Amazing. You're equating a bug to a violation of basic consumer rights?
Ever had a neighbor run over to your house because their cable/satellite/internet/cell phone is unavailable?
Typically you ask your annoying neighbor if they've contacted the service provider?
Maybe you should go reach out to TPC customer service, Nintendo Online Customer Service or Gamefreak and get some feedback to share with the rest of us on the situation instead of screaming they banned us go get your pitchforks over and over again.