I'm not going to cause the sales of a game to suffer all because a handful of PR people fucked up. The views (and idiocy) of a handful don't define the views of the entire company, most importantly the developers who they work with.
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Poll: Come on in and vote. Show how you really feel about the THQ-Nordic AMA@8chan fiasco
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:/ eh, i wish you hadn't posted this. Only on resetera do you have posters out to get each other on such an extreme level.
I've never bought any of their games to begin with and even if they did produce something I wanted... eh, it's an excuse to not spend money, I guess? Of course its not fair to developers that disapprove of the situtation, but thats kind of what happens when the publishing arm approves of shit like this.
Thats basically how I feel.
Futhermore, If I want to remain consistent, I'd have to avoid a huge chunk of the games I buy.
They made the thread to stand on the pulpit and preach to people about things that weren't even reality. It was a bait thread, plain and simple, and it deserved to be locked.
Why are so many people still thinking this was just a PR guy doing this? A member of the board of directors of THQN directly participated in this AMA.
That's a position above CEO.
I liked the idea behind it but it could've been presented a bit less aggressively.
That's a position above CEO.
I liked the idea behind it but it could've been presented a bit less aggressively.
I would not buy Persona if THQ had a hand in it (in Europe, they actually do); worst case I would purchase used.
Games are inessential commodities. Not buying one doesn't cost me anything.
I stand by making that thread, because the sheer hypocrisy is maddening.
These two logical extremes aren't the only two ways to react to that thing. This isn't a great poll.
Huh? They don't actually lose anything from you pirating their game, it's not like stealing a physical copy. Maybe if you do it via a torrent it would help other pirates get it faster.
Should THQ Nordic have a game come out and I am in town in a shop looking at games and I see it and think about buying it I can guarantee I will not have this PR Fiasco in mind when making that purchase choice. Not through inaction or apathy or insensitivity but just through living and being that living requires you to keep on top of a lot of shit. I will have forgotten - plain and simple. Not through willful malice just through living. Does that make me a bad consumer? Don't know. You can call me that if you feel I am. I'll be busy living though and probably won't notice.
True, THQ definitely didn't make an AMA on 8chan, and people definitely aren't talking about "not wanting to punish innocent devs" in this very thread. Those things aren't true at all.
Let's say you're genuine and you really want to get the higher-ups fired. Great. How are you doing that?
There are many approaches that have worked, but there's only one real line of feedback that every business responds to, and that's whether or not people are giving them money.
You think publicity is going to do the work? They're trying to lay low and have the story forgotten about, and they've mostly been successful on that. The majority of the media response has been "that seems like an incredible mistake" and not "that's some incredibly heinous behavior". This story is already in the rear view for a lot of people. Barring some sort of resurgence in a few years, the vast majority of the publicity for this story has already occurred.
Maybe you've got an actually effective idea, but the reality is that THQ is after one thing, and the only reliable way to make the company listen is to stop giving them that thing.
Your general sentiment is appreciated but you might want to trim that post!
quantifiably false. If anything it's tamer here. Other places will launch harassment campaigns.
Exactly. I'd only consider a boycott, say, if one of the developers linked to THQ Nordic began to endorse 8chan or came up with the idea for it. Which, given what we know, is not the case.
We promoting piracy now? Doesn't surprise me on Era.
If anything, its beneficial because a pirate might encourage a sale through word of mouth or other enthusiasm for the game.
Hosting an AMA on 8chan does not automatically equate to a corporate endorsement of pedophilia. It's terrible, heinous shit that we need to be talking about and putting pressure on the industry to properly address, but we can do that without resorting to propaganda.
The collection of colorful excuses in this thread are fascinating to read. Kind of irritating to read "don't want to punish the developers" over and over and over, though (as if non-indie developers saw a dime of what their games make in most cases); no wonder Phantom Thief made that other thread.
How many ways there are to write "I won't buy their games" and "I will buy their games"? This is complaining for the sake of complaining.
How many ways there are to write "I won't buy their games" and "I will buy their games"? This is complaining for the sake of complaining.
Man, I said it in the other thread but THQN's moronic little stunt is seriously fucking with some people on here. Between this thread and the original with some of the ideas advocating for "teaching them a lesson" some of you guys are secretly wild
Only on ResetERA you can become the victim of an extreme retaliation attack like a passive aggressive thread.
How do you know it's not the view of the company? The company has not disciplined this employee, they've not apologized or even commented on this, and they won't respond to questions about it, their plan is to hope this blows over.
Why should i have any confidence in THQ nordic when they've shown literally zero remorse for this and haven't explained the steps they're going to take to make sure it doesn't happen again?
No, having more choices would cover the array of reasonable responses a person might have to the situation. It's a badly designed poll if the goal is actually to capture people's honest feelings.
If it's just here to show that lots of people don't care about THQ's fuckup then great, it proves something we already could have guessed.
I'll probably still support them because I hardly ever look at who creates these games until I see it crawl across my screen when I play them unless they are a huge studio (Bungie/naughty dog etc etc)
The actions of a few shouldn't paint a bad picture of the people making the games. The whole studio is not corrupt.
The actions of a few shouldn't paint a bad picture of the people making the games. The whole studio is not corrupt.
Ok then. I wish I was as strong as you are. At most, I would buy any game from then second-hand or in a bundle that goes to charity.
Lmao. Is this the only site you frequent? Literally every other place is worse than this one regarding this thing.
That's fair, and I'm not judging you. This forum is just as mean spirited as the old one sometimes.
So I guess when lots of people have the same opinion on anything it must be irritating as well?
Also, the issue of indie-developers not getting enough money from their distribution sources (i.e Steam) isn't the main issue here, although I would have to agree nonetheless.
I too feel sorry when moderators ban trolls and alt-accounts.
I mean, think about all the trouble those people went through to create those!
Those things are true. The way to keep trying to paint them a child porn advocates is flat out bullshit and you know. I don't know what your deal is on this topic but you're unhinged about it.
Here is correct way to put them on blast:
https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/2/18246867/thq-nordic-8chan-controversy-apology
What you are doing is exaggerating and flat out lying to make the issue seem even worse, and you damn well know it. For someone who posts here as much as you do you'd think you'd be more responsible, but i guess not.
You could always not post here if it upsets you that much.
Or, you know, you could try to not paint the community in such a way because they disagree with you.
Yeah, if it was something like Persona, I'd pick up a second hand copy; I would just not let a single cent of my money go towards the publisher in that case.
Yes, this forum inherited a lot of the problems the old one had.
Okay, I need you to understand: their representatives explicitly engaged in loli-posting on 8Chan, and left the link to the site up for 15 hours (including after they were well aware of what the site is, and what content it hosts) on a public Twitter account.
They promoted a site known for child porn, doxxing, and white supremacy, and haven't disciplined the employee responsible , apologized, made a statement, or responded to the medias questions about this.
What do you suggest we do outside of boycotting them when they've shut down communications about the issue?
It was a good thread with an incisive premise, unlike this one with its unhelpful poll.
Perfect post.
It's kind of amusing to see people obviously and unabashedly giving zero fucks about anything bu their own personal interests, then go on to spin it as "those poor developers". :P
That said, there was the point where they were confirmed that, yes, 8chan would be getting their "big tiddie lolis" though.
How about buying only used, or in a humble bundle, or if they fire their entire management? You get people who might have voted yes because of this and then they get included in the dogpile.
Nordic is publishing Desperados 3, an entry in an extremely niche genre that almost no other publisher will even touch. It's also from the same developers as Shadow Tactics which was fantastic. You bet your ass I'm buying it. If the choice is between punishing a stupid PR/marketing person or rewarding a good developer and keeping a genre alive, I choose the latter.
Phantoms little thread made the point clear as day.
Posters here will bitch, moan, whine, cry about any little thing regarding a game and proudly celebrate themselves not buying it..... But a whole publisher promotes a website pushing CP and Nazism and the same posters come up any damn excuse to keep supporting them.
You may fool yourselves, but you aint fooling anyone else. Largely, THQ will get away with it as its starting to show, but it definitely reveals how shitty and immature most of this supposed "Gaming Community" really is.
People aren't even educated on the issue, they keep saying PR people, when a whole department and a Executive (who participated) signed off on the AMA. They even coordinated with the site owner!
Posters here will bitch, moan, whine, cry about any little thing regarding a game and proudly celebrate themselves not buying it..... But a whole publisher promotes a website pushing CP and Nazism and the same posters come up any damn excuse to keep supporting them.
You may fool yourselves, but you aint fooling anyone else. Largely, THQ will get away with it as its starting to show, but it definitely reveals how shitty and immature most of this supposed "Gaming Community" really is.
People aren't even educated on the issue, they keep saying PR people, when a whole department and a Executive (who participated) signed off on the AMA. They even coordinated with the site owner!
That's not what's happening. People aren't going to change their opinion of the issue over a poll, they'll just pick whichever is closer to how they actually feel. Or not vote. The comments have shown as much.
And because this 'no' doesn't really account for future measures, people who are currently no are voting yes. So in effect, the poll is not representative of how all people really feel, because one side is a lot more inclusive than the other. Therefore in the end, you might get your numbers, but since it's not an accurate representation, they're pretty meaningless.
It's not the poll that will change opinions, it's opinions that will invalidate the poll.
Yeah, I think that's the best way to go about it if it's a game that we're really interested in.
I'm going to guess that was some kind of sick joke, given the website and all. I doubt THQ Nordic and their subsidiaries are making a game with, quote, "big tiddie lolis" in it.
EDIT: Lord knows somebody will twist this post on me, so I will add now that I'm not endorsing games with "big tiddie lolis" in it. I'm merely point out that I think the post is satirical, although that doesn't change the fact that the post itself isn't funny, nor should be condoned.
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