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Yeah sure, but unlikely. However it should be possible, yeah.
The way I see it, if they release a new console in late 2022 or early 2023, it's definitely going to be treated and marketed as part of the "Switch family" (think something along the lines of the Game Boy Color or the New 3DS), even if from a technical standpoint the thing is effectively advanced enough to be considered the Switch successor. I could even see them applying the rationale of it not being their "true" next gen console per se because it's an extension of the Switch concept rather than something with a new concept/gimmick.
In that scenario, I could see it retaining the momentum of the current Switch and maybe even extending its life until 2026 or so (at which point, the Switch family would likely had become the most succesful dedicated gaming hardware line ever, surpassing both the DS and the PS2).
Mind you, all of this is still a really big "IF" and until Nintendo doesn't announce anything officially, I think it's better to continue treating it as speculation and rumor, rather than getting your hopes up.
I honestly like this name for a Switch successor, not going to lie.
Although, if it's treated as part of the Switch family, I presume it will be named something along the lines of "Switch 4K model" or "Switch Ultra HD model".
In that scenario, I could see it retaining the momentum of the current Switch and maybe even extending its life until 2026 or so (at which point, the Switch family would likely had become the most succesful dedicated gaming hardware line ever, surpassing both the DS and the PS2).
Mind you, all of this is still a really big "IF" and until Nintendo doesn't announce anything officially, I think it's better to continue treating it as speculation and rumor, rather than getting your hopes up.
I honestly like this name for a Switch successor, not going to lie.
Although, if it's treated as part of the Switch family, I presume it will be named something along the lines of "Switch 4K model" or "Switch Ultra HD model".
A part of me still wonders if it could be announced for March 2023, with BoTW 2 launching on both the Switch and the Switch successor.
Just call it a switch 2. They've never used pure numbers for a Nintendo console. It's immediately clear to consumers it's a new a thing
Assuming it's a new thing of course
Assuming it's a new thing of course
the difference before and now is we have explicit references from Nvidia's own data
Oh I'm no expect either mate but I do know from history that Nintendo will prioritise battery life more than other companies. If we have specs then the lowest possible clocks is what I would personally expect. I don't care because of DLSS.
Even the current Switch would be massively more impressive if it had it and just ran most games at 540p native up to 1080p DLSS when docked.
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that 10W for portable would have to encompass everything (SoC, memory, screen, wireless, etc). with the same same battery as the switch, we're looking at 1.6 hours of battery in the worse case scenario. so it'd probably be lower than 10W or the battery would be larger
With budget phones having 5000 even 6000 mAh batteries, I could totally see a Switch Pro getting an upgrade there.
I think the limiting factor for Nintendo is more likely to be weight than cost. The Switch isn't exactly a lightweight piece of kit, especially for young kids.
And they would have been an hour if they hadn't balanced compute power with battery life.
Super Nintendo Switch
Switch Pocket
Switch 64
Switch Color
Switch Advance
Switch Cube
Switch Wii
Switch DS
Switch U
Switch 3D
Switch Switch
That's how Nintendo should name their next line of systems.
Switch Pocket
Switch 64
Switch Color
Switch Advance
Switch Cube
Switch Wii
Switch DS
Switch U
Switch 3D
Switch Switch
That's how Nintendo should name their next line of systems.
Well, if the rumors are not fulfilled, we must move on to new rumors.
Drake is in the leak as the name for the T239
Sure it's reasonable. Why isn't it?
Nintendo devs are still going to have to target portable mode when this thing has to be severely clocked down to protect from heat and battery drain.
The devs are still going to be targeting 540p-720p rendering targets for every game, I'm pretty sure they will use the same OLED screen they are producing already.
The extra headroom of the DLSS Switch would be used to make the games run and look slightly better on the 7 inch portable screen than the current models.
Basically, the gulf won't be SO wide that they wouldn't also have a version that can run with the fewer cpu cores and RAM. They wouldn't ignore the 80+ million userbase they have who don't care that much about having a portable ps4 pro for Nintendo gaming.
This thing isn't going to be $299. The OLED switch was $350 and that pretty much only had the new screen and a bit more storage space. This Pro version will have that and more.
I guarantee you Nintendo expects the userbase size of this expensive Pro version to represent only ~25% of the Switch family userbase….similar to what the ps4 pro and Xbox One X ended up being.
They aren't going to focus their major games ONLY on such a low userbase system.
3rd party devs can certainly roll those dice though, I'm sure.
This could easily lengthen the Switch lifespan to 2026/2027. That seems to be its purpose, quite frankly.
And mass production would have to start By July/August…at the latest…for this thing to come out during the holiday
Power Switch
People can call it P-Switch if they want :P
And then they can have a Power Lite Switch version
Oh my god no pro folks cmon. I mean sure it might happen but at this point just make it next gen. Doesn't mean switch 1 has to die anytime soon.
If it's 8 cores @2Ghz, 1-1.5TFs, and 8GB+ it would be shame to waste that on a pro and just minor updates to games imo
If it's 8 cores @2Ghz, 1-1.5TFs, and 8GB+ it would be shame to waste that on a pro and just minor updates to games imo
SUPER Nintendo Switch or Switch Advance, either of those would be perfect.
From what I gather, the chip for Nintendo might have 1024 cuda cores (half the number that the main Orin SoC has; 2048). That would still be 4x the amount the Tegra X1 has (256).
Depending on GPU clocks, it sounds like the next Switch would have enough GPU grunt to run games similar to a base PS4/XbBone, in portable mode and PS4 Pro level in docked mode thanks to DLSS.
Expecting 8 GB of 128-bit LPDDR5 or 5X, allowing for 100+ GB/sec memory bandwidth.
From what I gather, the chip for Nintendo might have 1024 cuda cores (half the number that the main Orin SoC has; 2048). That would still be 4x the amount the Tegra X1 has (256).
Depending on GPU clocks, it sounds like the next Switch would have enough GPU grunt to run games similar to a base PS4/XbBone, in portable mode and PS4 Pro level in docked mode thanks to DLSS.
Expecting 8 GB of 128-bit LPDDR5 or 5X, allowing for 100+ GB/sec memory bandwidth.
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Comparable to 3050 is surprising however I do wonder if the difference in Samsung 8nm -> TSMC 7nm is that big.
this won't be close to the 3050. it'd be more similar to the 2050. but still less cores and a lower clock
Yea idk how much I believe those specs. At the end of the day, I just want better third party support. If we got a Switch 2 with achievements, social features, and a lot of third party games hitting it.. it would easily become my main system.
"Super Switch" I think is more likely than "Super Nintendo Switch" because "Super Nintendo" has no meaning in Japan really, also you probably don't want some random people being confused about this being a portable SNES (lol). They won't use "Switch 2"
But it seems to me that Nintendo is not planning on leaving the existing 100+ million Switch users because they've identified console transitions as something they are bad at and bad for business. So I think the bulk of Nintendo's output even for the next 4-5 years will be simply made for Switch first and then with higher resolution (4K docked) and maybe some added graphical effects for Super Switch.
Could maybe see VR being a thing on this new model too, taking Labo VR up several notches and having things like VR mode for Metroid Prime 4 and Mario Kart 9 (which will be on Switch 1 would be my guess, just with lower resolution and graphical effects). So they could do that, Super Switch has VR mode and 4K graphics for certain games, regular Switch has neither.
3rd parties ... yeah probably some Super Switch exclusives here like Street Fighter VI, FFVII Remake Intergrade port, stuff like that but I wouldn't be counting on like all major PS5/XBSX games. Funny thing is maybe Nintendo will finally get some COD games with Activision under Microsoft's management.
Could be kind of like a DS "third pillar" situation where Nintendo didn't want to commit to DS being the defacto GBA successor until it proved itself sales wise. So I think if this new Switch model doesn't sell as well as Nintendo hopes, then they'll just call it a revision of the OG Switch, if it does sell very well, then it will function as the successor.
But it seems to me that Nintendo is not planning on leaving the existing 100+ million Switch users because they've identified console transitions as something they are bad at and bad for business. So I think the bulk of Nintendo's output even for the next 4-5 years will be simply made for Switch first and then with higher resolution (4K docked) and maybe some added graphical effects for Super Switch.
Could maybe see VR being a thing on this new model too, taking Labo VR up several notches and having things like VR mode for Metroid Prime 4 and Mario Kart 9 (which will be on Switch 1 would be my guess, just with lower resolution and graphical effects). So they could do that, Super Switch has VR mode and 4K graphics for certain games, regular Switch has neither.
3rd parties ... yeah probably some Super Switch exclusives here like Street Fighter VI, FFVII Remake Intergrade port, stuff like that but I wouldn't be counting on like all major PS5/XBSX games. Funny thing is maybe Nintendo will finally get some COD games with Activision under Microsoft's management.
Could be kind of like a DS "third pillar" situation where Nintendo didn't want to commit to DS being the defacto GBA successor until it proved itself sales wise. So I think if this new Switch model doesn't sell as well as Nintendo hopes, then they'll just call it a revision of the OG Switch, if it does sell very well, then it will function as the successor.
The leak specifically related that it has 12 SM's. So that means whatever this is has up to 1536 CUDA cores for usage.
It's a bit more powerful than what you were guesstimating.
So, I see an announcement late this year. It wouldn't make much sense to prolong the usage of the current Switch Hardware.
2024 is too long and I don't think they will have the mind share anymore for that. It would be too late and risking the same brand devaluation that happened to the Wii. They should release new product line in the Switch brand to keep it going. Switch 2 as early as possible is better.
The PS3 towards the end of It's life cycle was getting some of the best looking games at that time(last of us mostly) was able to generate mind share for a longer period, also helped set the stage for what to expect on PS4.
The Switch won't have such graphical breakthroughs and new hardware is the solution
2024 is too long and I don't think they will have the mind share anymore for that. It would be too late and risking the same brand devaluation that happened to the Wii. They should release new product line in the Switch brand to keep it going. Switch 2 as early as possible is better.
The PS3 towards the end of It's life cycle was getting some of the best looking games at that time(last of us mostly) was able to generate mind share for a longer period, also helped set the stage for what to expect on PS4.
The Switch won't have such graphical breakthroughs and new hardware is the solution
Sorry I've not been keeping up, but isn't it possible this switch successor has been cancelled? Due to the chip shortages?
Delayed at most. Highly doubt they would cancel a successor or Pro model to what seems like it's going to be their most popular system of all time.
Unless I'm misinterpreting something, the leaked source code files for DLSS on the next Switch's graphics API were last modified February 21st. Seems like it would be a short window for cancellation at this point.
No, of course not.
Since when has the shortages stopped new product hardware from releasing?
God, I'd love to have a switch with dlss support. It just seems like it would be the perfect fit for a handheld.