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PS Blog: Spider-Man Miles Morales, Sackboy! A Big Adventure and Horizon: Forbidden West will launch on PS4 too
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Xbox you get the upgrade strategy too to be fair , Sony do you get the ps5 version if I buy it on PS4 ?
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We can discuss strategy and communication separately. This strategy is great, but the communication from Sony has been deceptive and pure bullshit. Don't say you're about generations when a 2021 flagship title is coming to a 7 year old console. For fuck's sake.
I'm almost certain Ratchet & Clank is a genuine PS5 exclusive as it's "Built from the ground up for PS5".
Slightly disappointed Horizon (and to a lesser extent, Spidey) isn't gonna be full-fat PS5 but the decision makes sense for Sony. PS5s are gonna fly off the shelves regardless and releasing them for a 100+ million userbase helps making a ridiculously good value £350 PS5 DE a thing that can be done.
Yeah, this. That's what it really comes down to for me. I'm also happy I won't feel inclined to purchase a PS5 as soon as it releases.
People were claiming that Sony was anti-consumer for making exclusives.
yeah i bought ps vr twice. first on base ps4 and then again last year on the pro. it gives me bad motion sickness. i only use it for porn now which is legitimately next gen.
this gen had some phenomenal games. i love love TLOU2 and Ghosts, but i was ready for me. it seems Sony and MS are not.
They are cross buy with a free upgrade to PS5.
The PS5 Versions of these games will not be $70*
*Unless the PS4 versions are $70 too.
For months we've had talk about how Microsoft fucked up, they don't believe in generations, PS5 is doing it right lmao. And... now Sony announces this the day before PS5 pre-orders open up? You're kidding me lol.
"We have always said that we believe in generations"
"We are thinking that it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5."
Lmao
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Like the amount of discussion we've had on this topic these past few months has been unreal lol. And in the end, Sony was doing the same thing.
"We have always said that we believe in generations"
"We are thinking that it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5."
Lmao
With Xbox Series X titles being Cross Gen for the next couple of years, will this affect Game Design vs PS5 Games?
As Phil Spencer announced XBox Series X games will be cross gen. With the importance of SSD next gen and the impact of instantly loading will XBox game design be held back from true next gen capabilities as game designers need to bear in mind the current gen? I'm thinking of PS5 Ratchet and...
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Techradar: Xbox Series X's cross-gen approach is robbing players of the next-gen thrill
About the cross-gen approach of MS https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-series-xs-cross-gen-approach-is-robbing-players-of-the-next-gen-thrill
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Phil Spencer confirms that first-party devs have the choice of whether or not to make games cross-gen
I think this really dispels the theory of Xbox forcing all games for the next two years to be "held back" by the OG Xbox One. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKQ22CQoSw Edit (posting what I said in the comments): Folks, note that he is not saying that there will or will not be only...
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Like the amount of discussion we've had on this topic these past few months has been unreal lol. And in the end, Sony was doing the same thing.
Holy shit, I wasn't expecting Horizon to be.
I'm just as shocked that they announced a Demon Souls PC port, too.
LMAO
I'm just as shocked that they announced a Demon Souls PC port, too.
LMAO
Welp I did not know that. I guess I was just trying to see the bright side of things because lately I've been very annoyed with Sony.
I also remember Sony boasting that they believe in console generations and well, that didn't age well did it.
Spiderman and Sackboy is fine. Horizon legit pisses me off for the implication of Guerrilla not being able to do certain things due to the PS4 version. Flying did not happen in the first game because limitations from the hardware (if i remember correctly).... Shit 😕
And Fuck Sony for lying for months about their Cross gen strategy
And Fuck Sony for lying for months about their Cross gen strategy
Ehhhh really not looking forward to seeing how the base PS4 holds back the design of Horizon II. Surely there have to be some major compromises?
shouldn't you be dragging the execs who lied to you about hard generation cuts, instead of your fellow forum members?
Well I said that months ago and I was told by people here I'm stupid because it was built from the ground up for ps5.
Yeah, the jump to PS5 might arguably be the biggest technical advancement since the PS1 to PS2. And yet they have nothing showing its power to sell it with. Truly bizarre choice.
I thought this was obvious for years, i warned people that Sony wouldn't abandon over 100 million PS4 users, it doesn't make any sense. But then they got my hopes up with the whole "We believe in generations" bullshit so now i'm bummed about something that i saw coming for years.
God damn Sony, get your shit together.
God damn Sony, get your shit together.
Horizon is the only one that's actually surprising, but even then, nothing about that trailer screamed impossible on modern hardware. But at the same time, I would not be surprised if this was some more recent mandate by Sony due to Covid and the fucked economy.
I'm still not worried about it being held back by PS4. They have an engine that works on PS4 with a lot of complete assets, the RAM speed deficit isn't terrible between PS4 and PS5 and things like fog can double as a buffering zone and something to help the graphical power deficit. The only concern to me is the CPU which is absolutely terrible on PS4, but even then, a 30fps PS4 cap and 60fps on PS5 and less enemies should be able to help with the greater than 4x power difference
I said the same shit about Xbox with most games as well. The devs are smart, and Guerrilla in particular is extremely smart.
I'm still not worried about it being held back by PS4. They have an engine that works on PS4 with a lot of complete assets, the RAM speed deficit isn't terrible between PS4 and PS5 and things like fog can double as a buffering zone and something to help the graphical power deficit. The only concern to me is the CPU which is absolutely terrible on PS4, but even then, a 30fps PS4 cap and 60fps on PS5 and less enemies should be able to help with the greater than 4x power difference
I said the same shit about Xbox with most games as well. The devs are smart, and Guerrilla in particular is extremely smart.
Sony basically straight up lied which is pretty shameful. I can't imagine the shitstorm if horizon gets a massive downgrade because there is no way I can see that running in any way on a ps4
What are you even trying to say? This sucks. Period. The PS5 and the Series X are fucking amazing and people not designing games to take advantage of said consoles sucks. There's really no debate.
We don't know what other games are cross-gen because Sony isn't fucking telling us. I'm assuming Ratchet isn't, but that's basically it. Demon Souls might be, still...
I just need God of War not to be. But right now, I'm not too sure...
I assume this was a weird Resetera quote-response goof. I was talking about a potential GOW limited-edition PS5.
Man I hope that fucking narrative finally dies today. The bane of my forum going existence for the past few months.
Lmaoo exactly. I really didn't see a problem with Microsoft doing it. I'm pro cross-gen and am happy that more people will be able to play these games but I think Sony should rightfully receive flak for this.
I mean, that's something. I couldn't get into VR porn tbh. Image quality is shit and it feels like you are fucked by a giant, lol. Gladly I don't have problems with motion sickness in games. I had to train a bit, but it wasn't hard for me to get used to free movement. Maybe try some games that normally don't generate motion sickness like Astrobot or Moss? Or did you already try games like that? The PSVR and PCVR community around here always has some good tips as well.
I mean, this model that all of a sudden customers need to fork $500 or they're essentially left without any more access to new software is pretty unique to consoles. In most other media you get hardware upgrades every year, same as in PC, a persona with a 1080 doesn't necessarily need to buy a new GPU now, but someone with a 760 might have to. That said, I agree that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to upgrade right now.
I think John has a point. Games are indeed scalable and I am sure Horizon 2 will look great regardless, but I think we can all agree that it's not the same having to design a game that has to work on a base PS4 with one that it's PS5-only.
But then people would just buy the ps4 version for 60 bucks and play on ps5.
it's a little confusing right now.
Why do you think people are disappointed with the PS4 crossgen games? This is still true for Xbox as well.
That's because there's a number of stupid console warriors on this board. Feel free to disregard them.
What I'm saying is the version thats 100% the developers full vision is on PS5. In what I mean the best way to play it is on a PS5. Horizon looked insane, get's going to have huge caveats on PS4.
Ratchet straight up isn't possible on PS4 without load times or transition screens.
And honestly Horizon is still a ways off things can change.
I see the difference in PS5 games compared to PS4. So I'm all in on a new way to experience games with 4k, ray tracing, better HDR, no load times, 3D audio.
Scope of the games will still be huge when it comes to Horizon, god of war.
Notice they were specific on what games were coming to PS4. And it's literally just a couple early titles.
People are over-reacting.
No it's not. What you just typed made no sense.
This is what Playstation said:
Not everything is going to be $70 Cross gen games will be the same price on both systems. It's not that complicated.
This doesn't negate that. Most AAA games on PC maxed out are impossible to achieve on consoles, too.