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PS Blog: Spider-Man Miles Morales, Sackboy! A Big Adventure and Horizon: Forbidden West will launch on PS4 too
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LOL Horzion is a showcase game,people were saying it looked to good to be gameplay.
"The standard edition will be available digitally on the PlayStation Store or physically at your local retailer for $49.99. " Miles Spidey is only $50.
It takes 3-5 years for AAA games to be developed these days. They would have had PS5 devkits for what? A year or so? Do the math. Even if a game is next gen only in the first year or so chances are that game began development on last gen hardware anywhere. That's not even going into the budget these games need to make back on release.
I just don't really understand the controversy over crossgen games either way. The controversy should be Sony not being clear about this from the beginning and instead being obtuse for several months. Not that crossgen games are a thing. Your true next games will start coming in 2022.
I just don't really understand the controversy over crossgen games either way. The controversy should be Sony not being clear about this from the beginning and instead being obtuse for several months. Not that crossgen games are a thing. Your true next games will start coming in 2022.
Weird that they are limiting stock for the PS4 then, maybe they will discount it soon after all since they are releasing big first party titles on it for a while still.
Really a weird move tbh... that and the high price games. Might just keep the PS4 and wait till launch games on PS5 drop to buy one.
Really a weird move tbh... that and the high price games. Might just keep the PS4 and wait till launch games on PS5 drop to buy one.
The game loads whole worlds populated with new assets in about two seconds without any funky LOD stuff, and at quite some frequency.
Waiting too long between each transition would make that whole sequence fail at what it's trying to do.
I don't think you can do that on a PS4 hard drive, unless the game's significantly visually compromised, compared to PS4 games.
Has any PS4 game ever done something like this?
That is quite dissapointing. This next gen is even more cross gen focused than what was this current gen at the beginning. We are just seeing the same games with upgraded resolution, better framerate, a bit of upgrade in textures, faster loading times and ray- tracing ( which is not always guaranteed).
What I expected from at least Horizon 2 was a new world built from scratch approaching the full capabilities of the PS5, especially its SSD. I wanna see shit in world building and gameplay perspective that current gen consoles are nowhere near capable of achieving, like for example; what the Unreal Engine 5 demo did and what Rachet & Clark is doing, but you're just dragging this for a least the next 2-3 years; guess God Of War will be the same.
What I expected from at least Horizon 2 was a new world built from scratch approaching the full capabilities of the PS5, especially its SSD. I wanna see shit in world building and gameplay perspective that current gen consoles are nowhere near capable of achieving, like for example; what the Unreal Engine 5 demo did and what Rachet & Clark is doing, but you're just dragging this for a least the next 2-3 years; guess God Of War will be the same.
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I'm not sure I understand how an ssd would drive new game elements. They've been around for awhile and I haven't heard of any PC title taking particular advantage of this or making something truly unique. It will be great to have no loading times though as games this gen have become absolute monsters to load(Witcher, destiny for example).
my thoughts on it are scaling games is the future as it has been on PC. As is there's resolutions and frame rates today on PC that are not/will not be obtainable to the same capacity as the PS5/Series X can.
I don't think there's really much to worry about here. If Xbox's design philosophy is anything to go off of the "design 4K 60 FPS then scale down for lower end systems" probably applies here. I'm sure at some point the game design will become too big or grand in scope that it would no longer make sense to support such a low end system without severely lowering resolution, and in such cases that hardware wouldn't be supported.
Demon's Souls is not cross-gen. Well its a ramake from a PS3 game but still the biggest day 1 exclusive for PS5. And then thers Ratchet and Clank that seems to be the only 1st party game taking full advantage of the PS5 SSD.
This explain a lot of things. To be fair the only thing that seemed really next gen all this months was the UE5 presentation. On the first PS5 showcase I was a bit underwhelmed, even with horizon (on the graphics side not by the game itself) because I was not seeing the visuals I was expecting after the UE5 presentation.
Don't get me wrong, I still think that this games look gorgeus and I'm very hyped for them.
In a way it is a good thing since it means that true next gen games are going to look absolutely awesome.
Don't get me wrong, I still think that this games look gorgeus and I'm very hyped for them.
In a way it is a good thing since it means that true next gen games are going to look absolutely awesome.
Every console launch is the same story, we won't be seeing games taking full advantage of these consoles' capabilities until 2023 at the very least. Previous gen took FOREVER to get going, and this one is not looking good either. By the time the good games start flowing, we will be trading our consoles for their enhanced revisions.
Initially disappointed to hear that Horizon is cross-gen but I've got no evidence that's it's going to be held back by the PS4 version. Maybe it will be, maybe it won't. Either way I'm going to want to play the best version of it.
Then it should be called PS4 Pro plus. For next gen atleast release a title that will utilize all the features of the console. Pc is different best entirely as they are shakled by constraints of consoles and are general purpose machines like phones
I mean SSD can make a big difference in game design. R&C seems to be about the only game so far that can demonstrate that in a way not possible for current gen. I mean you could jump between worlds, you would just have to have fairly lengthy load times. Mind you SP did an awesome job with GoT load times, as did ND with TLoU2.
We literally had people saying cross-gen games on XSX didn't count as "games" and there's nothing to play on it lol.
But you're absolutely right. Games take awhile to create. The original Spider-man was a top 10 game this gen, I expect Miles Morales to be just as good if not better, and it'll run better, load faster, and look better on PS5.
For people who want more: just wait a bit longer.
Huh?
Why would they call it PS4 Pro Plus? PS4 could run all PS4 pro games. PS4 can't run all PS5 games. And like I said, Demon Souls is exclusive.
I'm... not sure how individuals upgrading their PC parts to have better graphics/frame rates/etc. can't be applied here tbh. You're gonna have to explain that one.
Yes Sony should have definitely clarified this much earlier. They just did what I hate about Aron Greenberg. Just to gain some pr points and flame console wars
See, this is where I'm at: what ground breaking game design can exclusively be done because ssd? I can't think of anything! tbh, I personally think these games are designed for ps5 first & they are most likely downported to ps4... ps5 version came first in other words.
The SSDmarketing talk always referred to Ratchet & Clank.
All these console warriors screaming 'Sony lied!' seems to forget that game for some reason
Guess I'll keep my Pro for another year. Demon's Souls isn't enough for me to buy it at launch considering I've already played the original multiple times.
What's confusing? Someone earlier in the thread said that Sony fans are now having to double down on crossgen being crap so as not to admit they only said it because it was MS doing it. Rather than just actually believing crossgen is crap regardless of who is doing it.
And lots of people in this and other threads have been asking (in various ways) "where are the people who said crossgen is bad now?" in threads fill of people still saying it.
And therefore the internet never ceases to amaze me.
It's not hard to follow.
i mean i have an SSD in my PC right now that pretty clearly shows me the difference
I can't believe Horizon is cross-gen. Guess some people owe MS an apology for their direction.
Ratchet and Clank is coming out next year, and that's a PS5 exclusive. But yeah, we can't be certain about GoW just yet.
horizon being cross-gen has nothing to do with MS and everything to do with 100m PS4s sold.
I was saying in case you just need same games with better fps and resolution then for me it's a PS4 Pro + until it get proper exclusive
Well, Sony still has real next-gen exclusive games, even thought they've been sleazy and misleading with their comunication about that.
But it's not console launch title. So till that time we won't have a proper next gen game
Must be really hard to have someone watch the video before they release it to check for errors.
sure, but that means we will have to wait till 2025 to get a true next gen game from Guerrilla Games, Insomniac, Polyphony Digital, Sony Santa Monica and Bluepoint.
I know they didnt announce gow as current gen but i am 100% convinced its cross gen. GT7 looked cross gen from the beginning.
I was wondering why these games were all targeting native 4k 30 fps. it made no sense to me. now it makes perfect sense. their base is 1.8 tflops.
Demon's Souls is a launch title only on PS5.
Ratchet & Clank will be out by the spring.
True, but it's launch window. So it won't be long.
And trust me, I'm not defending this stuff, but it is true that you don't usually see many titles taking full advantage of new hardware in the first couple of months.
TLOU2 load times are not good at all. They are masked by cutscens so u dont noticed them the 1st time u play as the game is loading as u watching the cutscenes, but if u skip a cutscene, u actually stay waiting around 1 minute untill the loading ends.
Ghost of Tsushima is really impressive though. 8 second loads by fast traveling from 1 point of the map to the other, or respawning, felt something only posibble on a SSD.
1.) That's not what I'm saying. You asked what's the point of spending money on next-gen machines if they run games better & look better, I said people spend money on upgrading PC parts for games to run and look better - its not that different.
2.) There... is an exclusive at launch. Its called Demon Souls. I guarantee you Sony will drop more and more exclusives as the gen goes on.
Again, if it doesn't appeal to you at launch, just wait (and I understand you not wanting to spend $400/500 at launch ). But some people are looking forward to Demon Souls. Others are looking forward to playing Miles Morales at 60 FPS. Others are fine with PS4 for now and will wait for God of War or the next exclusive.
And that's all okay.
