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How hyped are you?

  • A little hyped

    Votes: 98 15.7%
  • A lot of hyped

    Votes: 50 8.0%
  • WALNUUUUUTSSSSS

    Votes: 222 35.5%
  • Hyped enough to eat this whole bag of walnuts

    Votes: 63 10.1%
  • Hyped enough to bite this moose

    Votes: 37 5.9%
  • Hyped enough to scramble a dozen eggs

    Votes: 39 6.2%
  • Hyped enough to be even more hyped, like, cyclical or something

    Votes: 116 18.6%

  • Total voters
    625
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Lady Gaia

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Oct 27, 2017
2,483
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Poll is how you cook your eggs, not how you order your eggs.

Yes, that does help explain things. I cook my eggs by ordering them, so there's that. 😋

That said, this Youtuber in question is often pretty off-putting for me in that he often makes a lot of really sensationalist claims and predictions that have no hope of becoming realised; e.g. RISC is gonna overthrow Intel's x86 CPUs and become the primary CPU arch in desktop computing (never gonna happen).

The reason it didn't happen back when it was last predicted was that people failed to understand where the next bottleneck was coming from. RISC code tended to be larger than CISC code, but occupy fewer transistors so you could get more computational power in less space. When memory bandwidth took over as the primary concern and transistors became plentiful, CISC once again had an advantage. Now, though, the new bottleneck is power consumption - and once again fewer transistors has a distinct advantage. ARM is showing that in a big way, and whether ARM comes to the desktop/laptop or other devices replace these familiar versions is less clear. Apple is expected to start using ARM in their laptops in the next year or two.
 

sncvsrtoip

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Apr 18, 2019
2,773
TF are TF because that's just a measure of how many calculations are done in a second. It's a technical metric, so it doesn't make sense to talk about "GCN TF" versus "RDNA TF" any more than it would make sense to talk about "Ferrari rpm" versus "Ford rpm".
Nope, it make sense. Tf are used in console speculation threads as performance metrics and thats why we need some multiplayers when comparing different arch. It's not strictly proper but give good approximation of perf. comparison.
 

RoninStrife

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,002
So, what is "off site drama"? I was banned for 24hours for something I dont even understand and I only commented on this thread.
 

dgrdsv

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,893
Please, Sony, just put some specs out in a WIRED article and end this nightmare, I beg.
I doubt that they can and is surprised that MS did actually.
According to what AMD showed during the FAD they don't actually have final working RDNA2 silicon yet. Which means that whatever specs they are planning on hitting right now may end up being different in the end.
 

Brees2Thomas

Member
Dec 27, 2019
1,525
Yeah, thanks. But that is the clock of a 5600 XT, not the clock of the tested chip.
I agree with III-V and take _rogame tweets with some pinch of salt.
Cartmanbrah on twitter replied to me with this pic, claiming Gonzalo benchmarks didn't reveal clock speed either. EDIT - But he just tweeted that the "18" following the "32/10/" could in fact be the 1.8 GHz clock speed.
 
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Vimto

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Oct 29, 2017
3,714
I doubt that they can and is surprised that MS did actually.
According to what AMD showed during the FAD they don't actually have final working RDNA2 silicon yet. Which means that whatever specs they are planning on hitting right now may end up being different in the end.

MS did not reveal specs yet. Just TF number.

we dont know gpu clock/cu, Ram size/speed/bandwidth or cpu clocks or ssd speed sequ./random read or write
 

Brees2Thomas

Member
Dec 27, 2019
1,525
I doubt that they can and is surprised that MS did actually.
According to what AMD showed during the FAD they don't actually have final working RDNA2 silicon yet. Which means that whatever specs they are planning on hitting right now may end up being different in the end.
Interesting...do you believe Oberon, the chip in the Github leak, had RDNA2 tech inside it?
 

Bad_Boy

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Oct 25, 2017
3,624
I just want one little tease. A screenshot of spiderman 2 or a gif of GTSport2. C'mon lets see some of that ray tracing on knack 3.

Pretty please for the love of ken kutaragi.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
18,827
I doubt that they can and is surprised that MS did actually.
According to what AMD showed during the FAD they don't actually have final working RDNA2 silicon yet. Which means that whatever specs they are planning on hitting right now may end up being different in the end.
I'm sorry who said they don't have working RDNA2 Si? Quite the opposite was shown.
 

Adookah

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Nov 1, 2017
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Sarajevo
IVpX0Y3.jpg



LOOOOL.
That fake switch prototype had way more effort put into it.
what TF is that?
 

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Axel Stone

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Jan 10, 2020
2,771
It'll keep fluctuating higher and lower, faster and faster, until it's moving so fast that it snaps the thread clean in half.
 

Deleted member 62280

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So I wonder how long third parties will go with the radio silence. I bet there are some who want to show off their launch games soon before they get released in november.

Considering that E3 is dead now, I'm curious as to how the cascade of next gen games will be handled. Now it can be weeks apart instead of everything in 3 days.
 

Binabik15

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,643
I just want PS5 to be in the 12 Tflops range like I guessed several OTs back in the poll, dammit. I want to be right!

And I want to see purely next gen games, not Halo or Godfall.
 

Rösti

Member
Oct 25, 2017
801
I'm unsure if this image file has been posted before, but I just saw it on https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/:

GameStackLive-scaled.jpg



Non-scaled version: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GameStackLive.jpg

The Game Stack Live schedule (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/games/events/gdc-2020) doesn't explicitly mention Halo Infinite, but I assume such would be in the "Xbox Series X + Project xCloud = New Chapter in Gaming" session.

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dgrdsv

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Oct 25, 2017
11,893
I'm sorry who said they don't have working RDNA2 Si? Quite the opposite was shown.
They've said that RDNA2's perf/watt gain over RDNA1 was based on an "internal estimate".
No reason to estimate something which is already up and running in silicon.
Also that RT demo they've shown? It was a pre recorded video.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
18,827
They've said that RDNA2's perf/watt gain over RDNA1 was based on an "internal estimate".
No reason to estimate something which is already up and running in silicon.
Also that RT demo they've shown? It was a pre recorded video.
OK, so you are suspicious. I can live with that.
But, the Si is there. It has been in the wild for a few months now. I am sure you have seen the evidence.
Do you have a source for pre-recorded demo?
 

Shambala

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Oct 26, 2017
1,537
All I can say is that those Sony ninjas are working overtime. Microsoft is baiting Sony and they are basically like here are these PS4 games.. Enjoy lol
 
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