But that's not the reason.Activision looked at the features Steamworks provided at no cost and decided to forgo ability to ever sell the game in a way that did no require Steam. That's literally what happened.
But that's not the reason.Activision looked at the features Steamworks provided at no cost and decided to forgo ability to ever sell the game in a way that did no require Steam. That's literally what happened.
Activision looked at the features Steamworks provided at no cost and decided to forgo ability to ever sell the game in a way that did no require Steam. That's literally what happened.
Plus, contrary to vocal fanboys opinions, I don't see how this hurts PC gaming at all at this point of time. On the flip side Steam can't play God anymore and we're getting free shit and some obviously good deals in the future.
This is such a weird conversation.
You are going to be playing the game on the same platform, literally the same piece of hardware
And this... from a developer.http://gamasutra.com/blogs/DavidGal..._Its_Current_State_is_Not_Good_for_Anyone.php
Read this, it's from a developer.
Being called over dramatic irks me considering my "over dramatic" post was in jest. I use fanboy because there are many fanboy posts. Trying to pin me for my choice of nouns is over reaching.Using the fanboy term is just you making it easy to dismiss opinions without putting in an effort, please stop doing that.
Unless the definition of consumer changed over the las couple of days, I am very sure the consumer is the final end user.Thank you for confirming that you don't understand who the consumer is in this whole thing.
Read it. I do not disagree, I've mentioned some of the writer's points before.http://gamasutra.com/blogs/DavidGal..._Its_Current_State_is_Not_Good_for_Anyone.php
Read this, it's from a developer.
Paying for titles that were announced on a platform to then not be released on it is directly bad for me as a consumer because I am forced to use a lesser service instead of having a choice of which one to pick. If you disagree you have never been more wrong in your life.nothing that is happening is anti consumer or bad for the consumer.
Being called over dramatic irks me considering my "over dramatic" post was in jest. I use fanboy because there are many fanboy posts. Trying to pin me for my choice of nouns is over reaching.
Okay buddy, you're right. I sure don't want to hurt any more of your feelings.Disagree that it is. Using the fanboy term to generalize in a thread lowers the bar way too much. Don't use it, if you don't want it commented.
Funny how preferences and opinions work huh. You're a consumer and you feel affected, I'm a consumer and I don't feel affected. There are devs that like what Epic offers and there are devs who don't. Opinions....man what a doozy.Paying for titles that were announced on a platform to then not be released on it is directly bad for me as a consumer because I am forced to use a lesser service instead of having a choice of which one to pick. If you disagree you have never been more wrong in your life.
How bout you try tipping the scales towards your opinion that it's anti consumer by showing me that what is happening is anti consumer in a legal perspective then, because I am very sure no laws are being broken by Epic here.
Okay buddy, you're right. I sure don't want to hurt any more of your feelings.
How about you stop pretending to be some protector of forum justice and keep the debate on point if you don't want this to keep up.
Most definitely, as you can see I'm steering you away from disrupting other productive conversations.Not at all an expected answer. #feelings
You're prepared to do your part as well then?
Unless they break laws, both sides of this conversation are just grasping at straws about whether Epic is being anti-consumer or not.They don't need to break any laws to demonstrate anticonsumer behavior.
It's because he doesn't have an argument but wants to shut down anyone disagreeing with him. It's anti consumer them buying third party exclusivity.Lmao, the two sides argument. Nobody can be right unless the other side is unlawful. Wow.
Unless they break laws, both sides of this conversation are just grasping at straws about whether Epic is being anti-consumer or not.
I didn't know the law worked any other way. The point of contention here is that you insist that what Epic is doing is anticonsumer and I am insisting it's not.I mean, no. That isn't how it works at all. A court of law is there to decide whether or not an act was illegal. A company's business practices may not be illegal but they might very well be unethical, anticonsumer, irresponsible and a variety of other adjectives except illegal. Customers are free to criticize a company's policies without filing a lawsuit. That's how life actually works.
I hope they kill the Steam(microtransaction)market. They are the ones that pushed microtransactions to everyone. They probably earned more from dota2 and csgo than from game sales.I had to do some googling to check some of the store timeline, so Uplay was released July 2012 ( and June 2011 for Origin ) .
Since, the stagnating Valve introduced :
Aug 2012 - Steam Greenlight
Dec 2012 - Steam Market
Sept 2012 - Steam Big Picture
May 2013 - Steam Trading cards
Sept 2013 - Steam Family Sharing introduced
Nov 2013 - User review system
May 2014 - Steam Home Streaming
Sep 2014 - Discovery Update introducing the Curator system
Jan(?) 2017 - Steam Input
Jun 2017 - Steam Direct
Aug(?) 2017 - OpenVR
Mai 2018 - Steam Link for Android
Aug 2018 - Proton
I didn't take time to add some smaller stuff like the second Discovery update giving users more control over what titles they want to see or ignore within the Steam Store, the updated review system, the refund policy ( europe(?) didn't give them much choice ), smaller-ish update to SteamVR ( steam home and the like ), on the friend list, etc.. might have forgotten some things thought ( or valve did nothing but swim in their pool of money during 2015-2016, which is a possibility ).
In comparison, I'd like someone to list what Origin and Uplay did other than release their own exclusive titles to their store. I'll be honest I use them so little I wouldn't even know where to start.
I hope they kill the Steam(microtransaction)market. They are the ones that pushed microtransactions to everyone. They probably earned more from dota2 and csgo than from game sales.
Uh why? I made $600 from selling items like trading cards on the Steam market.I hope they kill the Steam(microtransaction)market. They are the ones that pushed microtransactions to everyone. They probably earned more from dota2 and csgo than from game sales.
I hope they kill the Steam(microtransaction)market. They are the ones that pushed microtransactions to everyone. They probably earned more from dota2 and csgo than from game sales.