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Rep. Ilhan Omar: the “hope and change” offered by Barack Obama was a mirage
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Obama gave a medal to Henry Kissinger
Global murderer, destroyer of democracies, Henry Kissinger
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Global murderer, destroyer of democracies, Henry Kissinger
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Damn Omar bucking. On one side, the party needs to unify, on the other, fuck status quo motherfuckers especially the ones that didnt stand with her this past week.
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The Drone strikes he approved of in Yemen and elsewhere should be enough to send him to the Hague. The man is proof positive how easy it is to hypnotize liberals by being well spoken.
Though I don't see her being unseated, she really popular in her district.
I don't think anything Omar's doing is typical Dem... That would be falling in line rather than speaking to power regardless of which side she's criticising.
Calling this a shitty attack is a shitty attack that implies a malicious intent to deceive.
Obama's approval rating among Democrats is somewhere around 95 percent, so it's not just centrists.
This thread is a really interesting microcosm of leftist bubbles, both on Era and online in general. I do agree that a lot of the shortcomings of Obama's presidency on a policy level was trying to operate within a previously established framework in the interest of building bipartisan coalitions, national unity, etc, which in hindsight just looks naive at best. But I also think boiling him down as a "center-right" "horrible person" that people only really like because he was a good speaker and only remember fondly because of how terrible Trump is, is so incredibly divorced from reality.
He was no saint, of course. Many in here making him sound like a bloodthirsty war criminal.
I'm excited to see how the other forum twists itself into knots over this given how everyone over there has been calling Omar an anti-Semitic bigot (lol) for weeks on end.
Because there are two different arguments here. I don't want a candidate that's going to base their platform on bashing Obama, he was a good president. But there's nothing wrong with Omar pointing out his flaws in this context, she's not running for president and she's attempting to demonstrate that her problem with these issues is not based on partisan politics.
Yup.
I don't how this helps us win in 2020 which is frankly all I care about at the moment. Focus on the enemy and deal with imperfect allies later.
Obama wasn't a mustache twirling villain. That doesn't mean he didn't actively engage in awful things.
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Yemen war authorization
Drone warfare
Mass deportation
Pick the one you disagree with
Maybe he wasnt a bloodthirsty war criminal but ....
Can't help but laugh at the folks screaming unity and infighting.
What fucking unity. Members of her own party were tripping over themselves in their excitement to lob shit at her this week.
What fucking unity. Members of her own party were tripping over themselves in their excitement to lob shit at her this week.
He catered to the system like all of them he said he was gonna be different which was a blatant lie
Keep in mind that his mass deportation numbers were so high because during his administration the policy of counting someone caught at the border and turning them away counted as a deportation.
I've already given up on 2020. Hopefully we at least take the Senate and keep the house.
Thats not hard to guess.
She is still a dirty muslim and bigot, but when she shits on Obama we have no choice but to agree with her because those are the facts!
"STOP SAYING TRUE THINGS WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO FUCKING BRUNCH AND MY EGGS ARE GETTING COLD!"
With the way you guys talk, we can't speak truth to power lest the next election cycle will be lost. Fuck that.
There is a 0% chance of losing the White House and winning the Senate. That's pure fantasy
It's a deep blue seat. Only issue is whether she would be unpopular enough to be primaried or not.
She ain't wrong. She, along with other new Dems, are also doing a great job at pushing the Overton window left. People need to know going back to Obama era policies is not enough any more.
Obama was far from perfect and I doubt any president would be, but she is wrong to put him in the same boat as Trump. Before Trump came along those kids were separated from their parents for concerns of trafficking or other reasons. Trump made it a policy to separate every child from their family. All she has done here and gave fuel to the Trump admin that keep insisting that every other president did the same thing too.
Obama's drone policy was awful but he campaigned on war so it didn't surprise me. Outside of his heart warming speeches he always had mostly centrist policies to me. I never understood why people thought he was be more to the left.
I think Omar is going to end up losing support for these comments.
Obama's drone policy was awful but he campaigned on war so it didn't surprise me. Outside of his heart warming speeches he always had mostly centrist policies to me. I never understood why people thought he was be more to the left.
I think Omar is going to end up losing support for these comments.
Word. After the bullshit tone-policing people have been chastising Omar with and the House response to her comments, people can eat my nuts with that rhetoric.
I wonder when the most non-bad faith actors will start calling her a Putin plant.
Obama should have declassified and released every single government file on Civil Rights and Black Power era activists. But that would have offended at least one white person so it would never have crossed his mind to do so.
A full 50% of the Dem voting base identifies themselves as an Obama Democrat so this isn't going to go over well.
She knows she can go in hard on any subject because she also knows that sadly America would never elect a brown muslim woman as President.
I'm glad she feels free to say whatever she likes. Kick that ass!
I'm glad she feels free to say whatever she likes. Kick that ass!
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