Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
He never posts
Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
No one came to ERA because it was lucrative. We came here because we wanted to be away from Gaf but back to the communities we all knew. The financial opportunity was from the creator.
I never meant the community should be consulted, but that it should've been informed. Why did the community get informed of technical changes but not ownership changes until the very last minute? Well, this thread right here.
Moderators working for free, while the admin fills his boots.
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I almost forgot to say that I disagree, and I always appreciated your thoughts and moderation.I'm much more jaded, much less positive, and just a worse person all around, and nothing I did had any lasting impact.
Since it's come up a lot, I just wanted to mention that we did discuss this with MOBA Network and they were emphatic that they are not in the user data business and never will be. They're not going to sell your data. Nothing is going to change about how your data is handled and protected.
It was owned by multiple people, but Cerium later bought them out and became the sole owner. I don't know who these people were or how many.
Probably shopping new houses as we speak.Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
This is very well said, and I completely agree, especially the last sentence.I did not expect to see some users and mods (and ex-mods) get defensive over people saying that mods should be paid. Very strange to call people 'hypocrites' for saying moderators should be compensated even though they…aren't nice enough to them I guess? It is possible to simultaneously believe that the moderation staff has done a poor job with this community but that they also deserve to be compensated considering their volunteer work helped a man cash out $4.5MM from a video game forum.
Bizarre. This "actually, it's the users who are in the wrong and they should go away if they have an issue" attitude is exactly what has created so much drama in the past and pushed several communities away. It creates an Us VS Them where the mods are valiantly holding the line against a horde of unappreciative and disruptive users. It's not a recipe for a successful community.
Some of the posts in this thread admonishing "hypocritical users" are so bizarre. You can really feel how much disdain these posters have for the community at large. I have no idea why you would devote so much time and energy to a community where you don't even like the people who are a part of it.
Please stop speaking for transera like this. We have a very lovely community here, even if some had to leave for their own reasons.I do think is extremely hilarious that they managed to sell a graveyard at such a premium price
I don't really disagree with the idea that it's classist. I hope that they use these other methods then, whatever they are.just gonna quote this
there are actually other ways to limit signups by bad actors, (you'd think by the way some people act that trolls are uniquely a problem for era/gaf and thus these sites demand a specific restrictive registration process used nowhere else on the internet) but I suppose it might be more financially lucrative to gatekeep registration in a way that ensures your userbase is largely middle class or better, college educated, and/or with a cushy office job.
Mostly, the fact that ERA was borne out of a desire for transparency, but the fishing for a company was literally done behind closed doors, will tell you everything you need to know about what managment feels about the community.
I feel bad for whoever poured their time, heart and soul to this project. Honestly, I'm just here (as I've been since GamingAge) for the random comment every now and then. It affects me nothing.
do you need to even ask this?Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Never, and mods have come in here to say that they've actually all stood on the side of keeping it as volunteer work.Was compensation ever on the table, though? The moderator positions are explicitly volunteer positions.
The last time he was "seen" was when he edited the OP. Haven't heard or seen from him since then… which isn't exactly abnormal of him because he's barely here to begin with!Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Excellent post, imo.I did not expect to see some users and mods (and ex-mods) get defensive over people saying that mods should be paid. Very strange to call people 'hypocrites' for saying moderators should be compensated even though they…aren't nice enough to them I guess? It is possible to simultaneously believe that the moderation staff has done a poor job with this community but that they also deserve to be compensated considering their volunteer work helped a man cash out $4.5MM from a video game forum.
Bizarre. This "actually, it's the users who are in the wrong and they should go away if they have an issue" attitude is exactly what has created so much drama in the past and pushed several communities away. It creates an Us VS Them where the mods are valiantly holding the line against a horde of unappreciative and disruptive users. It's not a recipe for a successful community.
Some of the posts in this thread admonishing "hypocritical users" are so bizarre. You can really feel how much disdain these posters have for the community at large. I have no idea why you would devote so much time and energy to a community where you don't even like the people who are a part of it.
The man just got $4.5 million in his pocket. Why would he continue to waste time with us?Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
He just secured a 4.5 million dollar bag, that man will never post here again lolIs Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Because that's not how business deals are made lmaoI never meant the community should be consulted, but that it should've been informed. Why did the community get informed of technical changes but not ownership changes until the very last minute? Well, this thread right here.
Wow, add this to another one of the sides of Era I've never seen and was completely unaware of until now.
So many people offsite talking about how many communities ResetEra scares away, and I'm just sitting here since day 1 completely oblivious to all of this.
Back then people were just happy that there was going to be a replacement forum. Cerium bank rolled the whole thing for like 3-4 months until monetisation came in. The forum was then going to be registered as a company with several partners so as to avoid it becoming a one person show, which they early on. But eventually in 2019 the ownership ended up being consolidated to one person once again.Was Cerium the big firm data analyst that had people concerned about ulterior motives in those earliest days/weeks?
We knew this already, but the Facebook leaks confirm that conflict and trolling goose engagement and thus revenue. Letting trolls in to shit up the place = $$$
Not his problem anymore.Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Would you?The man just got $4.5 million in his pocket. Why would he continue to waste time with us?
Would you? If it were me I'd have left a stickied thread titled "Sayonara suckers", lol. At least he showed some restraint before laughing all the way to the bank.Is Cerium going to actually respond to any of the issues from this thread or was he just dropping the announcement and bailing forever?
Please stop speaking for transera like this. We have a very lovely community here, even if some had to leave for their own reasons.
I'm sure some of the other members of the other communities up there feel the same.
First statement was rhetorical haha.Never, and mods have come in here to say that they've actually all stood on the side of keeping it as volunteer work.
I want to make a metaphor on how people will go against their own interests for things they love and that's no excuse to take advantage of them, but all the examples I could think of were so heavy handed... until I got back to the gaming industry and people working in QA. Because after all it's said and done and your passion has been drained, what do mods feel they got out of all of this?
How can you remotely ensure that? They didn't buy the site for nearly $5 million dollars for the ad revenue.Since it's come up a lot, I just wanted to mention that we did discuss this with MOBA Network and they were emphatic that they are not in the user data business and never will be. They're not going to sell your data. Nothing is going to change about how your data is handled and protected.
About 95% of the theories I see posted about our "shadow cabal" and how we operate are things that I can't even foresee how someone came to the conclusion, on top of being wrong. People take this more seriously than we do, ironically.Some of the community seem to view mod activity in the same way they view cop activity, i.e. never to be trusted, always with an eye to ulterior motives or pre-existing dislike of those impacted by said mod activity. They distrust by default any empowered authority. And the cause is probably the same reason, a history of infractions by certain prior mods that leads to future distrust of anyone in the position.
Ah, yes. The supposed once proud owner of Era barely posts and has roughly the same post count as someone who lurks. NEVER saw him during any drama situation on the site when a leader was needed.
At this point the vitriol for the community has for each other is just self perpetuating. There is so much disdain being thrown at each other from members, ex mods and mods alike that I'm surprised how anyone can continue to post or mod here given the way people are talking to each other whenever a community issue pops up. It certainly hasn't gotten better in all of the threads I've read when there is a community issue that crops up.I did not expect to see some users and mods (and ex-mods) get defensive over people saying that mods should be paid. Very strange to call people 'hypocrites' for saying moderators should be compensated even though they…aren't nice enough to them I guess? It is possible to simultaneously believe that the moderation staff has done a poor job with this community but that they also deserve to be compensated considering their volunteer work helped a man cash out $4.5MM from a video game forum.
Bizarre. This "actually, it's the users who are in the wrong and they should go away if they have an issue" attitude is exactly what has created so much drama in the past and pushed several communities away. It creates an Us VS Them where the mods are valiantly holding the line against a horde of unappreciative and disruptive users. It's not a recipe for a successful community.
Some of the posts in this thread admonishing "hypocritical users" are so bizarre. You can really feel how much disdain these posters have for the community at large. I have no idea why you would devote so much time and energy to a community where you don't even like the people who are a part of it.
The hypocrisy is quite funny.Moderators working for free, while the admin fills his boots.
Our gaming forum is linked to slave labour, concentration camps and genocide. Here's what to do about it.
we can request account deletion but it does not delete your messages, since the forum was sold to an EU company the forum will have to abide to GDPR and should have to delete your messages if you request it, tried to ask about that but i didnt got an answerNeed to find out if we can do anything about if our posts which were sold can be protected from being sold time and time again by the company that bought era
I didn't opt in. Do we have any course of action?
the sale of this site is a bad thing full stop
You are very angry and it's hard to talk to someone like that. I am not your enemy here.Because that's not how business deals are made lmao
How are you so comically ignorant about how the real world works?
I know, sorry. I just wanted to reiterate since someone else was also mentioning the same thing but I lost track of that post.
It's not like the mods can just program that inwe can request account deletion but it does not delete your messages, since the forum was sold to an EU company the forum will have to abide to GDPR and should have to delete your messages if you request it, tried to ask about that but i didnt got an answer
I would. I am now rich with money to cover me an entire life time and I don't have to work anymore. If he cared about the community as he claims he would.
what's amazing to me is that when everything was exploding because of very valid reasons on Sales Era, everyone worked their best to silence what was happening, they were not letting people notice the shady stuff and risk an exodus just before selling the forum.
The difference with GAF is that the mods let it burn to the ground, but these guys have supported it silencing all the crazy shit immediately.
Announcing that he was pursuing a sale would likely have lowered the price even more in a competent process.You are very angry and it's hard to talk to someone like that. I am not your enemy here.
I have mentioned that ERA is a business, and there's really no way around NDAs. Im not expecting (nor feel slightened) because the owner didn't mention he was closing a deal to sell the site. I am saying that this community, at the very least, expected the owner to say "I'm willing and actively looking to sell the forum".
That of course was never going to happen, not with the optics we know have and what we know of the ownership of ERA. And a lot of people are just waking up to that reality, and realizing that all the work they put on this site was for someone else to fill their pockets, and they're not even getting their communities as a tradeoff. And I feel bad for those people. And I feel worse for the people that haven't realized that, and will keep working, for free. Because even the work for passion, is work.
I know, sorry. I just wanted to reiterate since someone else was also mentioning the same thing but I lost track of that post.
It just ocurred to me how grateful we should be about Wikipedia.For those with strong leftist convictions and leanings, you can set up a non for profit alternative a la Wikipedia, but you will be more reliant on donations, just like Wikipedia is.
Or if someone just wants to bankroll the hosting fess and just eat the costs. It's possible.