Rocksteady Will Not Be At E3
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This HAS to be a crossgen title considering the amount of time they're taking and not willing to reveal anything yet.
You know if it was a Justice League I would totally understand why they are taking so damn long. But since its not that, then I guess it must be one hell of an ambitious title and its not even Superman either o_O.
Eh, I'm not sweating it. Last game was and still is gorgeous. Pedigree speaks for itself. Take your time, RS. Plenty to play in the meantime.
Ouch. No one tell Greg Miller.
I think you're right. I got some major deja vu reading that tweet.
I think you're right. I got some major deja vu reading that tweet.
It might just be a Destiny clone because those take forever to make and Rocksteady is a tiny studio.
It's gonna be some lame ass Batman game with that same ol shitty combat after all this time isn't it?
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Yeah that's really underwhelming.
DC games were kicking ass for 6 years with the Arkham trilogy, they had the perfect opportunity to expand into more. Now, in a world with Marvel having Spider-Man, Avengers, Guardians, Ultimate Alliance 3, and a Spider-Man sequel in the works, it seems like DC is falling behind yet again.
6 years for a Justice League game would've been worth the wait. 6 years for a "create your own squad member" game sounds soooo lame.
I love the Yakuza franchise, but c'monIt sucks, that's why I'm glad at least one studio whose games I love has been prolific this generation-
They utilize the same Kamurocho in every game, with very similar combat system for each one of them. Not a fair comparison.
FROM Software, though. They are impressive.
I think if you thought they were taking this long and then revealing the game the year before next gen, you were probably a little too enthusiastic. You're only getting the expected games this year. THere will be nothing surprising. Get excited for what's actually announced like Gears 5, BL3, Star Wars Respawn, Watch Dogs 3, and Death Stranding.
To be fair, Arkham Knight came out in Summer 2015 and they made DLCs for the rest of 2015. Then they release Arkham VR in Late 2016. So thats possibly 3 years of development so far. And based on MK11 and Shadow of War's marketing, it seems WB would rather reveal the games when they are ready to ship the game within 6 months. Basically, we are not going to see this game until it is on its final stages.
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True. I remember them saying that, but I can't find the article/interview. This still leaves room for WB Montreal's Batman Court of Owls game to be announced at E3 with a Fall 2019 release date.
WB should consider venturing outside their 2 DC focused studios and accept pitches from other 3rd party AAA devs. I'm sure there are plenty of studios who would love to tackle characters such as Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc.
They're building essentially a AAA new IP from the ground up and it's only been 3 years, Alot of games are in pre production for longer than that.
Pretty clearly they are, yes, but it's probably worth quickly running through the reasons for that:
1. Not all of the ~150m current generation consoles that are likely to have been sold in the near future will be in use. Some will be broken, some will be sitting in closets or on shelves having been replaced by the fancier version of themselves, some will be media boxes that barely ever (or simply never) play games. That 150m is probably closer to 100m active consoles being used for gaming on a regular basis.
2. Many of the people who are using their consoles will only be using them for a small number of games, and after years of owning the console they'll have bought most of what they might be interested in, and only be buying maybe one or two games a year (and for a substantial number of them that's going to be CoD or FIFA or Madden). Getting this audience to buy a game outside of their regular semi-annual purchases isn't easy.
3. By 2020 each new game on PS4 and Xbox One will be competing against a huge library of games that's accumulated over seven years, and some of them will be extremely cheap, including some direct competition. Anyone who's remotely price sensitive has plenty of much cheaper choices, which includes an absolute ton of DC stuff, and also includes Rocksteady's previous games. By contrast, the new platforms will have a much smaller library of native games and each major release will find it much easier to stand out.
4. The 10m people who buy a console in year one will probably already own one or both of the other consoles, and are therefore in your 150m as well. That 10m+ will also be the most profitable chunk of the 150m console owners.
That's why PS4 versions of games were outselling PS3 versions really quickly. If you look at old NPD topics on some other site, even a few months after the PS4's launch, for most games on the chart the PS4 was listed ahead of the PS3 despite the PS3 having a massively higher user base. It was the same with Switch and 3DS - between April 2017 and June 2017, the 4.7m people who owned a Switch bought more software than the 67m people who owned a 3DS.
I'm honestly glad they're taking their time and hopefully getting whatever they're doing right. I absolutely do not envy the teams figuring out how to market their new title though if any of the Games as a Service rumours are true. As soon as you even mention the words "Online" or "Live Game" or "Years of Content", people switch off and start to tear it down even before it's off the ground (with some valid reasons).
Rocksteady are a Quality Developer. Arkham Knight is still bat-sh*t insane in terms of production values and is still a fantastic generational example. I believe in Rocksteady.
Rocksteady are a Quality Developer. Arkham Knight is still bat-sh*t insane in terms of production values and is still a fantastic generational example. I believe in Rocksteady.
I'm not so sure there are, not at an AAA level anyway. I think a lot of them would worry that there was a big risk they could spend three years developing, say, an astoundingly brilliant Superman game, strengthening one of Warner's major brands, and then Warner could turn around and continue that series themselves, maybe even grabbing the developer.
(If this sounds far-fetched, it is literally what happened with Arkham Asylum, originally published by Square Enix.)
I'd rather have them take their time than rush anything. Aside from Arkham VR, it's been like 5 years since we've seen anything from them (Arkham Knight was revealed in 2014 and was slated for a 2014 release), and it's their only current-gen title. Whatever they're working, it's gonna be big and it's gonna be next-gen forsure
I almost threw up at the thought of this. I hope it isn't this.
Warner Brothers has to be looking at their watch and the dollars they are spending and saying is this worth it at this point?
Around 5+ years between games. Only releasing 1 this generation most likely?
Edit: Forgot about Arkham VR so not that bad but that game is really short isnt it?
Around 5+ years between games. Only releasing 1 this generation most likely?
Edit: Forgot about Arkham VR so not that bad but that game is really short isnt it?
Sadly it's pointing towards a Suicide Squad game of sorts...
Suicide Squad..
Out of the dozens of amazong DC properties like superman or even the dam justice league... they choose Suicide Squad. Aka the villians and they do Games as a service.
It's disappointing to me. Others may enjoy it but not me. But I'l probably still buy it.
It hasn't been 5 years, they released Arkham VR in late 2016, it's been less than 3 years and it's not uncommon for AAA games being built from the ground up to take 5+ years.
At the start of this gen,WB games shaping up to be one of the big players. Yet outside of their Lego games (which probably do sell bonkers mind you), MK11 is their 1st AAA release since 2017 and they have nothing officially announced going forward (though we know Rocksteady must be doing something and there's the Harry Potter leaked game).
I feel crazy for thinking this publisher would have their own E3 shows a few years back.
I feel crazy for thinking this publisher would have their own E3 shows a few years back.
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It's most likely gonna be "create your own DC character" but whether that means you play as a villain, hero, hero w/ powers, etc is anyone's guess. I just hope it'll be worth it.
As a Texan, the thought of what would pass as "barbecue" in London sends shivers down my spine. San Diego 'barbecue" was scary enough...
Suicide Squad would be so sad to see from Rocksteady.
I know the movie isn't the best representation of what the Suicide Squad are but it sends a shiver down my spine thinking of Rocksteady tackling that property in a Destiny way. Same with James Gunn.
I'm not going to be quick to jump on the hate wagon, I'd like to at least see it in action before I react in anyway. But just reading what you guys are saying it physically hurts.
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It's certainly disappointing. After all this time it makes you wonder just what in the hell is going on internally. I hope someone like jschreier can chime in sometime in the future and let us know the inner workings of these two studios.
That's what I too want to see happen. Something can't be going right for all these no shows. I think they should have kept quiet during this whole time.
Man what a bummer. I hope they're launching something close to the PS5 launch if we really aren't seeing anything from them this year.