I can tell you a non insignificant amount of people on the smashboards wanted to find sakurai's house to physically harm him after Bayonetta was announced and not K. Rool. I don't doubt some people in Era's smash fandom are no less rabid.
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RUMOR: Massive Smash Ultimate leak is allegedly an emotional roller coaster [UPDATES IN OP]
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User Banned (1 Month): Rationalising harassment. Account still in junior phase.
I was one of the first to (politely asked you) to elaborate a little more if you knew the final roster or something similar to see where you came from (EDIT: ON THE PUBLIC THREAD WHERE YOU SHOWED UP, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD NEVER PM/DM/EMAIL SOMEONE ABOUT THIS IN CASE IT WASN'T CLEAR), also to prevent the witchunt ( Which I assumed it would be just dozens of people sending pms starting with ("PLEASE JUST TELL ME IF!" "WHERE'S THE PROOF???!?!?"), didn't think it would get to twitter), and you did reply that one time.
I agree that the internet can be the worst and can't stop getting surprised at how much harder people push as time evolves. Internet Harassing is always evolving to become worse and worse, it's specially sickening how volatile it is, it can go from 0 to 100 due to a single post, or a single tweet.
That said, your post could have and probably should have done without the "Because fuck you guys" (it would have also worked better and drove the point home clearer), ironic to find that on a post about respect, and probably would have merited a warning if the username was anything else but an insider.
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The only thing i hate is the "I know but i won't say" that certain insiders do. That aside, people sending stuff to the DM's are pretty pathetic tbh
So when a lot of people who are insiders only have 1, maybe 2 good sources that contradict this leak they feel confident in that it's probably not real, but can't adequately show proof that it's fake.
We were happy to listen to people like Imram through the year, but only now that he is saying things people don't want to hear is when he should go silent.
The logic that insiders must backup their claims with hard proof would only incite more fake information in order to fish out information from them.
On the other side, insiders could be better off just keeping silent, why even hint at things or say you are an insider at all, what is it? Need of attention, followers?. Just let people over hyping fake stuff crash and burn hard when proven wrong, maybe then they will learn.
On the other side, insiders could be better off just keeping silent, why even hint at things or say you are an insider at all, what is it? Need of attention, followers?. Just let people over hyping fake stuff crash and burn hard when proven wrong, maybe then they will learn.
Rest assured it won't be happening again. Every time this happens again, which it will, you guys can work yourself into the cyclone of feral hype on your own.
Yeah, come on, guys. It's one thing to be frustrated, but don't take it out on the insiders. We're better than that!
Personally, I'm just enjoying the ride. Got no one but myself to blame if I end up putting too much stock into this.
Personally, I'm just enjoying the ride. Got no one but myself to blame if I end up putting too much stock into this.
People can still formally request receipts. There is nothing wrong about that.
Going for personal attacks, calling into question the 'insider' despite reputation and vetting, abusing the formality and spamming an inbox that isn't easily/publicly available, that isn't okay.
Where did he say fuck you guys?
I also think you shouldn't really be giving him advice until you actually know the content of the DMs people are sending and harassing him with. It's easy to stay "level-headed" per se when you're not the one being harassed.
And yeah, it's not bad for people to reach out and ask for more information...but why would they tell you? If they were going to say something wouldn't they have just posted it in the thread in the first place? Why are you qualified to be their confidant?
They don't have to see anything. It's my belief that they're trusting sources that haven't burned them before.
Unfortunately we know how the game of telephone works. Until someone has more than just the word of someone else to share, I'm not inclined to believe anything. Not to say it's real 100% either.
When have people been harassing Andre over this? Is there any specific posts?
They probably can't show proof of a lot of stuff because it would compromise their sources and get them in trouble.
Which a lot of people need to remember when demanding for proof.
I like how this is somehow worse than the NPD insiders harassing thing. It's real nice.
And a lot of people don't understand that insiders are both hounded to SAY something at the very least when a potentially huge leak happens and to put out a high volume of info to dispute anything, but at the same time literally can't say too much or else their sources get compromised. Compared to say, a dickhead with possibly no value in his professional career to go "lol here's everyone fuck this company"
And a lot of people don't understand that insiders are both hounded to SAY something at the very least when a potentially huge leak happens and to put out a high volume of info to dispute anything, but at the same time literally can't say too much or else their sources get compromised. Compared to say, a dickhead with possibly no value in his professional career to go "lol here's everyone fuck this company"
And a post like this is basically the extent of "harassment" and that's publicly viewable here. I don't get it.
That's fine, but then don't get upset when people don't believe you. if you're confident then you'll be proven right in a week or two anyway.
People getting harrassed is awful. You can be #TeamReal and think insiders are being annoying without being a total psycho. That needs to stop. At the end of the day it's all just video games, and even those who believe this would do best to keep their hype in check on the chance it isn't true.
Which is still a valid reason all the same. I personally still haven't witnessed anything that has changed my opinion from #TeamReal though
The insiders have a source telling them a pokemon is in. There is no pokemon in this leak, so they say it's fake, but they don't actually say why. That's all team fake has going for them right now.
I know and agree, just stating that.
I'm fine, don't worry about me.
Now I do worry about some of you all's mental health who've been taking these "leaks" way too seriously...
Now I do worry about some of you all's mental health who've been taking these "leaks" way too seriously...
But there can often be a very real, important reason they do that. They are protecting their sources, if an insider tells us what they know then there's a chance their source will be found out. When they wait until other sources and other outlets share the same news they then feel comfortable sharing their info because enough people know about it that it's less likely it can be traced back to their particular source.
Also the background being changed in a few subtle ways. That's what put me over the edge onto team fake.
People are putting blame on personal messages being sent to them on this site, despite the news being everywhere on the internet.
There's been plenty of arguments proposed as to why the graphic itself has been faked that can't just be chalked up to "the image is blurry", nor does "the background can change" stand as a persuasive argument when there's not been a history of it changing. If you don't believe that it discredits the leak entirely then that's fair, but to say there hasn't been reasonable inconsistencies brought up by people who don't believe it is disingenuous.
No one should harass insiders, but the proof will come from Nintendo themselves, not "he said, she said" insiders, lets keep the discussion going without harassment or halting everything because someone on Twitter said he has sources. This is way too much fun to stop this hype train, just leave the toxic shit off of it.
What planet do you live on where the concept of a claim is exempt from requiring proof?
Y know what maybe mods should lock this thread and put their foot down about this "rumor" being fake.
Because we already know a lot of them don't believe it we can see just from the polling data so if they are truly confident it's fake then take the action.
Lock the thread say it's fake and any further thread discussing the leak outside the Smash DT will be locked. Now that people are getting harrassed for this action will need to be taken if they don't want this to continue any longer and if there's no reason to
Because we already know a lot of them don't believe it we can see just from the polling data so if they are truly confident it's fake then take the action.
Lock the thread say it's fake and any further thread discussing the leak outside the Smash DT will be locked. Now that people are getting harrassed for this action will need to be taken if they don't want this to continue any longer and if there's no reason to
Probably. Knuckles replacing Shadow as an assist trophy is pretty suspect and Ken is a no brainer in terms of echo fighters.
So you'd rather the insiders said nothing? We'd still be on this stupid thing if they didn't.
I'm not condoning people being assholes, Christ. If anyone is losing their shit over this and harassing folks, then that's clearly wrong. But I maintain it's unprofessional to play games with confidential information if you are a member of the media.
No cyclone here, friendo. Sorry people are being assholes and harassing you. But given the audience you're working with, it's sadly not shocking.
Yes please as I said in my post right above this, maybe then they will learn.
And this has been proven false. The background never changed. A better look at the banner shows that the castle is still there, it's just less visible because the image is overexposed thanks to being a video recording of a monitor (which is easy to note given the horizon in general is brighter than that of the direct feed image). The same goes for the colors on the waterfall.
There are differences. Imran talked about actual harassment, and i feel that's the actual nasty behavior. But you can't possibly go into a thread on fire like this one, say stuff, and not expect replies. Especially when there are really dubious "insiders" going around with a doubtful track record, that actually make people feel wary (not saying it's the case of Imran, though). People bothering others via DMs should face moderation for their unacceptable crap.
That's psychopatic behavior, doesn't look like what happened on this thread at all.
Mmmm I still like to keep in mind that these 7 characters were part of the 4chan leak in September. That's ample time to put together a convincing fake.
Were a lot of insiders upset with people not believing them? I don't remember a bunch of heated arguments with them going "No you idiots it's super fake". I just remember them saying "I dunno about this you guys" and leaving it at that.
It was other uses that would come back and ask/demand for them to explain themselves.
Just wanted to say sorry you got harassed by people and hope all is well. I just heard about this today :(
Posted it in the other thread as well but:
Here's my stance on this whole mess and about insiders:
I don't believe for one second that professionals and very competent people like Serebii, Imran and the Gamexplain crew would just go on a message board and lie about having heard something. It's non-sensical. They are people used to work with industry reports, with rumors, leaks and so on. I think they've got better things to do than just bullshitting on the internet. So if they tell me that they heard different stuff than what is in this leak, then I fully believe them.
But at the same time, this leak is absolutely perfect no matter how you look at it. People keep trying to come at it with potential proofs that it's fake but it always bounce back to being more real. The biggest potential blow, aka the facebook post by one of the companies involved, turned out to reinforce even more that it could be real. There are so many details, so many links, so many things that someone would have to create in order to fake this. And in no way this compares with the fake NX controller leak. This is on a whole other level, so much that everytime someone try to debunk the thing it end up looking like a conspiracy theory.
That's why despite both stances having their good arguments I'm definitely on team real until we get more developments on this.
Here's my stance on this whole mess and about insiders:
I don't believe for one second that professionals and very competent people like Serebii, Imran and the Gamexplain crew would just go on a message board and lie about having heard something. It's non-sensical. They are people used to work with industry reports, with rumors, leaks and so on. I think they've got better things to do than just bullshitting on the internet. So if they tell me that they heard different stuff than what is in this leak, then I fully believe them.
But at the same time, this leak is absolutely perfect no matter how you look at it. People keep trying to come at it with potential proofs that it's fake but it always bounce back to being more real. The biggest potential blow, aka the facebook post by one of the companies involved, turned out to reinforce even more that it could be real. There are so many details, so many links, so many things that someone would have to create in order to fake this. And in no way this compares with the fake NX controller leak. This is on a whole other level, so much that everytime someone try to debunk the thing it end up looking like a conspiracy theory.
That's why despite both stances having their good arguments I'm definitely on team real until we get more developments on this.
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