Let's just say scalebound was cut into pieces of meat and cooked into astral chain
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RUMOR: Nintendo has plans to revive a 'Dead and Buried' game (Update: Possibly Scalebound?)
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The "research" link in the description of his video just links to his channel? Don't know why people take some youtubers ideas as gospel, unless that guy has some kind of in, which I find unlikely as unless he has both an in at both Microsoft and Platinum it's kinda hard to tell either way.
That would be loads better, honestly.
I'll settle for a port tho
I mean, maybe there's stuff from Scalebound we never really knew about that did make it into other games like Astral Chain but as of right now all I can see is "AI partner" which is hardly an idea that originated with Scalebound.
I honestly don't see the resemblance at all. What kind of mechanics is Astral Chain taking from Scalebound? Scalebound didn't even seem like a character action game; we saw more combos during Astral Chain's reveal than during Scalebound's whole lifetime. Were these similar mechanics only shown to the press or something like that?
60% percent that. I'm putting 40% on that dude with the goddamn detective Pikachu avatar.
I think the best comparison for Astral Chain when it comes to the combat, is to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the use of the different Blades. I know this is a JRPG and not an action game, but in concept, that's the closest game I can think of.
His sources told him about Scalebound's cancellation.
We know this is true since there's proof he was seemingly the first
Nintendo avatars are the worst
Are we getting a plot twist here?
Oh, hey there dude with the goddamn detective Pikachu avatar.
Oh, hey there dude with the goddamn detective Pikachu avatar.
LOL Obviously the thread was mainly about Platinum's current events. Like hell I knew this was going to be a thing! :P
The original vision isn't really the original vision. It's hard to judge who decided what needed to change.
Kamiya has been in bed with Nintendo anyways, makes sense to not want all that work on scalebound go to waste all things considering.
Parallels are drawn between Scalebound and Astral Chain as both were character action games (even if we didn't see a lot in the former), wherein the player has a secondary AI controlled companion fighting alongside them, of which can be integrated into existing combos or tasked with autonomous offense and defense functions with item support. On paper, from the little we know about both, Astral Chain has all of these functions also. In the latter you can command your Legion to fight independently, and support them with items.
It might seem superficial, but it's probably a hold over of ideas from Scalebound, largely reinvisioned but still fundamentally based on the Player Character + AI Partner concept, namely Platinum's take on that AI partner and how they integrate with combos and operate individually.
The biggest change is scale (pun intended), as Scalebound seemed much more like Kamiya's vision of this idea however the size difference between each character being far vaster. A game where you partnered with a semi-autonomous AI, but the scale of battles ranged much larger.
It might seem superficial, but it's probably a hold over of ideas from Scalebound, largely reinvisioned but still fundamentally based on the Player Character + AI Partner concept, namely Platinum's take on that AI partner and how they integrate with combos and operate individually.
The biggest change is scale (pun intended), as Scalebound seemed much more like Kamiya's vision of this idea however the size difference between each character being far vaster. A game where you partnered with a semi-autonomous AI, but the scale of battles ranged much larger.
Agreed. Here's hoping we finally get the game we all were interested in back in 2014.
I'll never forgive people for being mad at Nintendo for funding a game they wanted.
The ridiculous Reddit post sounds like fake from mile away, obviously. But it was his "friend" not his "uncle", so it must be true.
Oh wow it's likely to be scalbound now? Ohhh this is getting juicy. A great pickup from Xbox if true. Come to think of it...considering how microsoft is being so buddy buddy with nintendo as of late this makes even more sense.
The genres are probably different with an action-action adventure vs an action RPG with towns, loot, levels, etc.
They probably are using some ideas, like this, but it doesn't look similar otherwise. Fighting with an AI dragon doesn't really compare to fighting alongside a human sized/humanoid
So let's say it's a obvious fake. What do you have to say about the other thing I linked with actual insider information?
What doesn't sit right with me about Scalebound being the fertilizer from which Astral Chain grew is that the latter is only being supervised by Kamiya. Sure some ideas might have been inspired by elements that were in Scalebound, but I feel like if AC was the realization of those elements that finally showed them off properly, Kamiya would be directing it.
Despite everything, I still don't think this is Scalebound. At all. This thread is worth it, though :)
Despite everything, I still don't think this is Scalebound. At all. This thread is worth it, though :)
You pulled a random reddit post that said the game was canned because it played poorly. None of the other reliable sources claim that. Kamiya was stressed, we heard that PG and Ms clashed.
Kamiya himself debunked the "mental health" thing in a tweet.
I'm pretty confident that Nintendo will deliver. I feel they can look at a game like Scalebound and make whatever changes the game needs to succeed. I don't feel Microsoft has that same ability.
You seem to have forgotten my statements. I claimed that the image showed that the development was troublesome essentially.
The point of what I'm saying is that the game has a troubled development. If you don't wish to believe a random reddit post, that is understandable. However my intention from the start was to convey that it has troubled development which I proved in later posts.
Seems there was a misunderstanding.
didn't Imran say that the game he was talking about wasn't revealed yet and was probably years away
how could it possibly be astral chain
how could it possibly be astral chain
Man it's crazy how these things snowball....one vague mention and now here we are with all sorts of people chiming in.
I've always been curious about things industry people hear or get wind of and just dont put out there or talk about because they don't want to be the only one. Not that it's a bad thing...
I've always been curious about things industry people hear or get wind of and just dont put out there or talk about because they don't want to be the only one. Not that it's a bad thing...
I don't recall Shinobi claiming this at all. He said he was stressed, not something wrong with his mental health nor did he state he took time off.
Nintendo is known to not comment on any rumors officially, unless the rumors tarnish their branding. However, they do employ tactical esponiage by infiltrating news media and give them fake rumors and insider information.
It happens, but Nintendo is known to do this often, which involves rumors sometimes being true and false.
That's insane and awesome at the same time...man the ninjas at Nintendo hard at work lol.
Not saying he did. There were quite a few statements from people stating that Kamiya took time off for mental health reasons and Kamiya stated it was false.
Suda was able to do whatever he wanted on Travis Strikes Again. There's no doubt Kamiya would get the same treatment from Nintendo. They wouldn't need to interfere and change anything.
Holy shit...never even thought about that nor realized I wanted it until now haha.
I don't think that what we've seen from Astral Chain would pass as giving orders to a huge dragon that fights against giant monsters in a large medieval-like world. I think that was the whole vibe the game was trying to give, which I didn't get at all from Astral Chain. So Mr.Platinum, or whoever is in charge, there's still a place for that kind of game and we would like to see it again in the furute if possible. Thank you.
Besides, if this is indeed Scalebound's "current form" or the closest Scalebound is going to get to become a released project, why isn't Kamiya directing it? Isn't it his dream game? :( I hope Kamiya still wants to direct video games and that he didn't get negative towards the idea after Scalebound's cancellation... that is if he isn't directing Bayo 3, which Imran actually mentioned(IIRC) and would make sense to the whole story about Kamiya not directing + Astral Chain is using Scalebound's ideas.
Well, this is getting even more interesting.
Edit: Of course, this thread could also turn into a blue balls experience pretty quickly if nothing comes off it LOL That would be our bad!
Besides, if this is indeed Scalebound's "current form" or the closest Scalebound is going to get to become a released project, why isn't Kamiya directing it? Isn't it his dream game? :( I hope Kamiya still wants to direct video games and that he didn't get negative towards the idea after Scalebound's cancellation... that is if he isn't directing Bayo 3, which Imran actually mentioned(IIRC) and would make sense to the whole story about Kamiya not directing + Astral Chain is using Scalebound's ideas.
Well, this is getting even more interesting.
Edit: Of course, this thread could also turn into a blue balls experience pretty quickly if nothing comes off it LOL That would be our bad!
Not to question your integrity at all. Era does have a mod verified section to genuine insiders but it doesn't appear to be used for all such members..
And since you don't yet state that it's not so emphatically, basically I'm at a loss lol to if you're a regular member or insider.
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Actually, I just realized that this finally the perfect time for the perfect curve ball. A game that no one would see coming. A buried remake of a cult classic.
Chakan: The Forever Man, developed by From Software.
Nailed it! Bookmark this post, motherfuckers. ;)
Chakan: The Forever Man, developed by From Software.
Nailed it! Bookmark this post, motherfuckers. ;)
Nintendo had nothing to do with the devlopment of TSA.
They just paid for physical distribution in the West. They didn't even publish it technically.
:p You had me going there until From Software. I don't want it to play like Dark Souls.
Why would they need to revive Scalebound (which looked liked shit), when they have Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3 coming from Platinum? Makes no sense to me.
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