And we love swimming in the ocean.
And we love swimming in the ocean.
Whats the point?
The lite added superior ergonomics, more solid build and increased portability. A tv only model would take away a lot, and add nothing.
It adds the option of playing at home for those that don't want a portable aspect.Whats the point?
The lite added superior ergonomics and increased portability. A tv only model would take away a lot, and add nothing.
'Secondary display'? Switch DS. Plays all Switch and all DS/3DS games. Confirmed.
I am very skeptical about the second screen as anything but a developer tool or test out of context, but let's run wild for a sec:
What if the second display is a screen that you slide the Joy Con onto to get the full controller? It would look like the normal Switch/the Wii U controller when assembled, but would presumably be cheaper, because most of the internals would actually be in the Joy-Con.
It adds the option of playing at home for those that don't want a portable aspect.
Lite is for portable, flagship offers both at home and portable, and a TV-only is purely docked. There's a market for that. It's a cheap solution that has high profit margins for the company. It doesn't need to sell tens of millions of units.
It would be a box that connects to the tv and comes with a Pro controller is what makes the most senseSo would a TV-Only Switch feature detachable joycons or ship with a pro controller? Since it wouldn't be a hybrid, I see no reason for detachable joycons. But them I remember games like Ring Fit Adventure. But then I remember the Switch Lite.
So would a TV-Only Switch feature detachable joycons or ship with a pro controller? Since it wouldn't be a hybrid, I see no reason for detachable joycons. But them I remember games like Ring Fit Adventure. But then I remember the Switch Lite.
While there might a market for such a system - i dont think current data really support this considering how well Switch is selling.
If this device is priced at let's say $199 in 2021, then there is no need to compare it with Sony and Microsoft machines.While there might a market for such a system - i dont think current data really support this considering how well Switch is selling.
More importantly this will invite direct comparisons with MS/Sonys offerings and i dont know if Nintendo wants or need to go that route.
Well anyway...it doesnt really matter at the end since all devices are part of the Switch family - more options isnt a bad things when the eco system is already established. Having a more powerful TV only Switch wouldnt hurt.
it's probably a dock only switch
There is - unless you think they stop selling Xbox OneS/X and PS4 the second the new units are released.If this device is priced at let's say $199 in 2021, then there is no need to compare it with Sony and Microsoft machines.
It's just a Switch TV. Just a box that connects to the tv, but has the function to connect to a regular switch screen probablyA couple of things:
I) now way it's a dual screen switch, not going to happen
2) OG Switch has outperformed the Lite which means that people like and want the dockable nature of the OG, because of that I don't see how a TV only switch makes sense
3) It's probably the Pro we have been hearing about for a while
True, it could have a lot better clock speeds in similiar way as a Shield TV since it don't need to run on a battery etc, but i still don't think this will be bigger jump, maybe a hybrid Pro version in the future.But i get your overall point. If its cheap and game can perform better on TV mode its gonna be a hit. Pretty much what the Gamecube could have been if it was more successful xD
If this can run games like BotW 2 in 1080p - its gonna sell to alot of people that dont wanna spend extra for the portability factor.
Yeah must be for DS/3DS/WiiU support. I wonder if they could sort of reverse the WiiU screen cast tech. Cast the 2nd screen video from the tablet to the dock. So it wouldn't be a clam shell. Your TV would be the second screen. Personally I prefer a bigger screen over 2 screens but for BC purposes there is no way around 2 screens.If it has support for a secondary screen it could be a clamshell Switch with two screens. Would be wild if they did that. THO, and hear me out on this, what if it is for,...
A foldable Switch in 2021?
Folds literally into two different screens for table top split screen. Just a wild idea. Seems weird they'd add a screen this late in the game. They could easily add DS/3DS BC via a USBC attachment, similar to the vertical grips for shmups, and cram in 2DS guts into it, sell it for $60 at a big profit since it wouldn't require buttons or screen.
But I'm all for a smaller Switch if this makes it possible. Clamshell too. I think whatever it is will replace $300 model, ideally at $250 tho. And drop Lite to $170/$180.
Indeed. People insisted that Nintendo would never make a Switch that can't switch, but now we have the handheld-only Switch Lite. Why not a TV-only variant to round out the family?
We've learned much more about the codenames since then, btw; much of that tweet has actually been found to be inaccurate (more in a sec). The fact that it's nx-abcd actually seems to indicate a new form factor (not hybrid or handheld). You would think TV-only, but that's already taken by nx-abcb, so I'm not sure what this is. The update is still being datamined, however.FWIW the same guy talked about similar profiles found in the 9.00 update last year:
New regular Switch model with upgraded battery life announced! Same price, launches end of August (Old model: 2.5-6.5 hours, New model: 4.5-9.0 hours)
So there were two separate form factors, one for retail (nx-abca2) and one for devkits (nx-abcb) for the OG Switch, even though it had three codenames (two for devkits). The new one has 3 form factors (nx-abca2, nx-abcb, nx-abcc) with 3 codenames again (one of which is the same EDEV unit the OG...www.resetera.com
That's nx-abcb, which was added along with nx-abcc (handheld-only) way back in 2.0.0 (the launch day update) and recently started going under more development in the 9.X updates.
Nintendo already said they don't have a new model this year, and it would be weird timing considering it would be the same chip as Lite/New Switch. I'd lean towards this being some sort of left field accessory, maybe a travel dock for all models like you said that lets all models play on TV via streaming, but also maybe adds some dual screen support.Yeah must be for DS/3DS/WiiU support. I wonder if they could sort of reverse the WiiU screen cast tech. Cast the 2nd screen video from the tablet to the dock. So it wouldn't be a clam shell. Your TV would be the second screen. Personally I prefer a bigger screen over 2 screens but for BC purposes there is no way around 2 screens.
The bigger news though is Zelda. BotW2 is practically guaranteed to ship with Switch Pro with added benefits. Fall 2020 will be nuts if this is coming...
this is a cool and informative post, thanks for sharingWe've learned much more about the codenames since then, btw; much of that tweet has actually been found to be inaccurate (more in a sec). The fact that it's nx-abcd actually seems to indicate a new form factor (not hybrid or handheld). You would think TV-only, but that's already taken by nx-abcb, so I'm not sure what this is. The update is still being datamined, however.
Anyway, what we've learned since that tweet: there have been 5 hardware models supported by the OS; these are Icosa, Copper, Hoag, Iowa, and Calcio. Icosa, Hoag, and Iowa have been released; they're the launch model, the lite, and the updated model with improved battery life, respectively.
Copper was removed after the RCM hardware bug was found, but based on its implemented services it seemed to be a non-mobile device (it didn't implement battery or charging services, and had HDMI services unique to it that are theoretically handled by the dock in the hybrid Switch).
Calcio is interesting. It only popped up in one of the 9.X updates, seemingly indicating it's in active development. It appears to essentially be Copper but on the new Mariko chip found in Hoag and Iowa and, curiously, lacks support for game cards, suggesting a digital-only device. If my speculation that a TV-only device would be positioned as a sort of super-economical option (even cheaper than the lite) is accurate, that would make some sense.
These 5 models fall into three form factors: nx-abca2, nx-abcb, and nx-abcc. Icosa and Iowa are nx-abca2, Copper and Calcio are nx-abcb, and Hoag is nx-abcc. You may also notice some consistency in the naming; abca2 devices start with I (integrated?), Copper and Calcio are C (console), and Hoag is H (handheld). The previous thought that some of these terms referred to dev kits is inaccurate; the dev kits use the same hardware configs and form factors as the retail units.
It's very interesting that 10.0.0 adds nx-abcd, as that theoretically wouldn't be a hybrid, home console, or handheld; all three are already taken. I'm not entirely sure yet whether the update also adds a hardware configuration implementing the form factor; if so, we can look at what OS services/drivers it supports to try to make an educated guess on what kind of device it is. A secondary screen is interesting; could it be VR?