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Senator Cory Booker lays down the law to DHS Chief.
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He shouldn't need one, but he probably does unfortunately.
Also, i believe the knock on Booker from the left is he took a bunch of money from Wall Street and pharma types, and that he spent all that Facebook money for Newark schools on consultants and bullshit. I dont know whether either of those two accusations have a lot of weight, but that's why lefties say they don't like him.
There's also his support for the privatization of the education sector which is a major ehhhhhhhhhh
I don't doubt his progressive conviction on a lot of social issues but there are some areas in which he's surprisingly conservative
They don't actually care about respecting women, but as to how they can use them. This is one way for them to do just that, as a token shield from criticism.
You can click it for the full image. Basically when someone already dislikes another person-- everything that other person does is looked at with suspicion.
Ya, I mean he has done bad shit but this doesn't take away from this speech imo
It's not even an insane strategy.
It's classic protect white women from angry brown man.
The only difference is that they are coopting liberal language to make themselves sound even more legitimate.
I agree with Cory Booker 100% but when you have a portion of the country listening to Hannity/Limbaugh/Savage, sending death threats to a pizza place for allegedly having an underground sex ring or 36% of the country having a favorable view of Trump, it's hard to see anything being done as a result. The woman from DHS will just roll her eyes when interrupting Cory Booker and there will be no consequences because her boss Trump won't have any consequences for her.
The connection that people from South/Central America and Africa live in this country for a better way of life and the words Trump uses hurts everyone won't get made.
The connection that people from South/Central America and Africa live in this country for a better way of life and the words Trump uses hurts everyone won't get made.
Meanwhile...
I like Corey Booker for a number of reasons, and dislike him for a number of others. His response in the Senate hearing was worthwhile, but I feel he often doesn't deliver when it comes to votes.
I like Corey Booker for a number of reasons, and dislike him for a number of others. His response in the Senate hearing was worthwhile, but I feel he often doesn't deliver when it comes to votes.
try running him and see. It doesn't help that he also can be effeminate when he gets shmaltzy.
I agree with his comments wholeheartedly, but the delivery felt off to the point of making the emotion not believable (and perhaps I'm old and cynical about political speechifying).
I've always felt this way about him. He comes off as trying to be profound. Intentionally trying to create a sound bite. Basically, trying too hard. I'd have more respect if he spoke like a normal person. Not necessarily a dry, mono toned politician. But not like he's trying to be MLK either, because he ain't no matter how much he might think he is.
It's kind of sad when there's so little reaction to racism in America in general, that when someone in power shows the correct level of disgust and hurt towards it, that the conversation has to turn to whether such a level of disgust and hurt regarding the racism could even be real.
It reads like, "okay racism is bad etc etc etc but does anyone really care this much?"
It's like we all just watched him give a speech on who makes the best French fries the way people are almost embarrassed that he cares so much.
It reads like, "okay racism is bad etc etc etc but does anyone really care this much?"
It's like we all just watched him give a speech on who makes the best French fries the way people are almost embarrassed that he cares so much.
This is the first time I've seen this guy speak, so I don't have any biases about him, and I agree with the whole "Fake" thing. The message is good, obviously, but if you're the type who disagrees, it's super easy to dismiss this video as just a performance.
The level of disgust is appropriate, sure, I just have trouble believing his sincerity in showing that disgust.
The level of disgust is appropriate, sure, I just have trouble believing his sincerity in showing that disgust.
Booker is a phoney establishment Dem and his speech here makes him out to be the politician he is. His message, albiet a good one, is tainted bc he looks crooked and fake as all hell. If he runs/wins it will not be a good look for dems.
Yeah, this feels pretty on the nose. But I dunno, I honestly never could sit through a whole Bernie speech. Watched one of the debates and he was definitely good, at his one big topic.
Yes. As we all know, every single speech by every single person is equally sincere and should be equally liked by everyone.
If you listened to two different speeches by two different people and somehow had different reactions towards them, then I'm sorry but it's just impossible to take you seriously.
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To be honest, Booker's voting record on pharmaceuticals feels a little beside the point, not that it isn't fair to criticize, but it doesn't make what he says here less true.
When it comes to social issues, I wish more Dems could be as impassioned as Booker.
When it comes to social issues, I wish more Dems could be as impassioned as Booker.
Good message. I don't really know much about the guy, so maybe that's why I'm missing the whole "fake" argument. I just don't see it.
On the flip side, he seemed to mispronounce or stumble over words at several points, which made me think he was legitimately angry or fired up. Of course, I could be completely be wrong.
On the flip side, he seemed to mispronounce or stumble over words at several points, which made me think he was legitimately angry or fired up. Of course, I could be completely be wrong.
He will run but I can't imagine him winning. In today's political clime Booker and his ilk are pretty toxic to the Democratic base.
If you followed him at all with his career in Newark you'd know the guy's a bit fugazi.
That being said I got no problem with how he reacted in this hearing. Honestly with the amount of feigned ignorance this woman was spouting, specifically the line about not knowing the ethnic makeup of Norway, I'd have been heated too. The length that Trump's people go to defend him is at once astounding and shameful that in this country we have people who think that this is just okay.
You claim to have no bias but you automatically choose to not believe he's sincere. It's flying in the face of what you're seeing, the opposite direction of where he's going. You either believe he means what he says or you don't, no amount of "performance" should really take away from that.
These responses are disheartening.
Watched the entire thing. Every word of his has reality and loss of patience for the bullshit that's happening.
Everyone of them is a cold hearted crook who will only take their deteriorating body to the grave, and no one will remember them for anything other than their bigotry, fascist ways.
Everyone of them is a cold hearted crook who will only take their deteriorating body to the grave, and no one will remember them for anything other than their bigotry, fascist ways.
I might actually believe this if this didn't come right on the fucking heels of
"Yeah Oprah made some good points, but whatever, shes probably running for office so whatever".
No, this shit is far too consistent. Meanwhile Bernie changes parties just before the freaking election to Democrat from independent, and hes SO genuine? The person you quoted is right, thats utter bullshit.
Young people who angrily post on internet forums aren't the Democratic base.
For me it's not that it was fake (I'm sure there is sincere belief there). Rather the delivery felt off to the point of making the emotion not connect for me. It's kind of like when you see an actor give a great performance versus one where they look like they're trying too hard.
I'm not sure if that was a shot at me, but I'm not young. But I am angry at the party, who has failed us so many times. There are millions out there who feel this way.
No thanks. Booker would be an improvement over Trump, but we can do much better. We'll have a good field in 2020 to choose from.
Yep, a few words away from basically asking, "why you talking so white"
People who have the kind of money necessary to run for office at that level are all crooked and fake. Every one of them. That can't be a determining factor in who you vote for, or you just won't vote for anyone, and you end up with a President like Trump. You have to listen to their message, and like you said, he had a good message.
Booker is a pretty good progressive, but we can do way better than him as the 2020 candidate. At this point, the only viable options that I can see are Bernie or Warren.
"He's a little too well spoken. We have better options in 2020."
*EDIT* Wow right as I post too.
Please, tell us why Bernie or Warren are better options.
Yep.
Of course once Hilary Clinton is brought up, they turn right the hell around.
Same with Warren and Harris.
As mentioned above, he's a phony establishment Democrat. Tows the corporate line. I don't like safe Democrats. Please stop turning this into race at every opportunity.
He's also from New Jersey, a hotbed of corruption.
Also, as to the statements he made in Congress...
There is nothing wrong with rehearsing what you are going to say in Congress. Politicians should choose their words for maximum effectiveness. Booker publicly criticizing the President and his cabinet for Racism should not be a polite conversation.
I also think the number of people getting on Booker for yelling at a white woman and trying to twist their defenses into some kind of feminist "gotcha" are wrong.
"I don't remember" should not be good enough for any high-ranking cabinet member in the United States when asked specific questions about meetings.
You are either lying or you're unfit for the job to "not recall."