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Her and a few more (minus maybe Chun Li, Ibuki, and Karin) need a redesign badly. So yes.
Will they? Nah.
 

Nocturno

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Oct 27, 2017
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Cammy's butt and Chun Li's legs are part of the characters, but no more porn star bodies in six (including men with huge bulges and hulkish bodies).

It looks too tacky for an iconic series.
 

Phoenixazure

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Oct 27, 2017
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Its funny. Cammy's leotard is her most iconic outfit and she's got Great Britan's Ass but she looks so much sexier wearing pants over the leotard plus it makes more tactical sense i would imagine then again im not a spec ops operative
 

SapientWolf

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Nov 6, 2017
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That's fair. But while we are largely and fortunately away from violence in most of our lives, sexual harassment is, in some ways, much more ubiquitous in every day life than war or violence or political espionage or alien attacks, or whatever most violent games wanna do.
I think Cammy (and her cosplayers) should be able to exist in their current form without inviting the ugliness of sexual harassment or sexism. If they can't I think that's more of a symptom of an awful, immature community rather than a cause of it.

And yes, a large element of the FGC are disgusting human beings. But I don't see thirst for Cammy butt as intrinsically worse or more sexist than thirst for Ryu chest or Chun Li thighs.

On that same token, Capcom needs to make sure their female characters aren't just reduced to body parts. They should be interesting and varied and they don't all need to show skin all the time. If they fail at that then they could fall into the realm of sexism.
 

eraFROMAN

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Mar 12, 2019
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If ESPN complains in preproduction, they MIGHT.

But yeah, they probably should, 5 introduced new outfits for a bunch of returning characters; Cammy has been around long enough to, you know, get to wear pants
 

Kyora90

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Apr 15, 2018
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Maybe Urien shots?

iu
 

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I think Cammy (and her cosplayers) should be able to exist in their current form without inviting the ugliness of sexual harassment or sexism. If they can't I think that's more of a symptom of an awful, immature community rather than a cause of it.

And yes, a large element of the FGC are disgusting human beings. But I don't see thirst for Cammy butt as intrinsically worse or more sexist than thirst for Ryu chest or Chun Li thighs.

On that same token, Capcom needs to make sure their female characters aren't just reduced to body parts. They should be interesting and varied and they don't all need to show skin all the time. If they fail at that then they could fall into the realm of sexism.
This.
 

TimeFire

Avenger
Nov 26, 2017
9,625
Brazil
Yes. One of Bison's top priorities for a good replacement body was a rocking ass.

Half serious, I mean look at the lineup of women he chose to be his replacements. He certainly had some specific priorities.

Isn't it kinda curious that literally all of Bison's future bodies are girls? And a character that is literally his soul is also a girl?

Is Bison an egg?
 

Fabtacular

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Jul 11, 2019
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I was playing Street Fighter Third Strike and noticed that all of Chun Li's animations were designed to get as close to showing her underwear without actually showing it, almost to a supernatural degree like Neo dodging the bullets in bullet time.
 

Thronazuug

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Mar 30, 2019
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There has to be a line dividing people that like butts and literal rapists. We reject the idea that the people that enjoy violent games are also violent but this idea still persists.
But there's nuance. Violence in real life frown upon in mostly normal communities. Unfortunately sexism and crimes towards women isnt as strongly opposed. On the contrary it is actually normalized in many different ways, such as victim blaming etc. This normalization is still occuring even in so called drveloped countries.This enabled and fostered by perversive uncheck sexist culture. That's the difference.

You see the way we dont talk about asses and bulges, treasure trails, adonis muscles of Ryu, Ken, Guile etc, or simply lack of talking about penis shows that there is a difference. And if it becomes a subject of a conversation it is either a joke or downplayed as "Hot Ryu" were (wow such shirtless, what beard, that sexualization of males). All of those people who poses like sex positive individuals T&A talk becomes incredibly prude when tables are turned. Then the line for being appropriate is quickly drawn again and again.

It's not appropriate to talk about womens bodies in a public forum and it creates enabling system for sexist culture which has direct consequence for women or anybody who is not a straight guy.

Just ask women, check threadmarks of "Why women criticize sexualized designs" thread. They explained situation thoroughly and so much better than I can.
Here is your chance understand why it is not ok.
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Since SFVI is seemingly being led by a woman, maybe we'll see improvements on this front.
 

Rzarekta

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There are women in real life who enjoy showing off their hard work on their asses. Perhaps Cammy is one. Not every sexualized person in games should be unsexualized. These people exist and should also be represented in games and other media.
 

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There are women in real life who enjoy showing off their hard work on their asses. Perhaps Cammy is one. Not every sexualized person in games should be unsexualized. These people exist and should also be represented in games and other media.
Maybe but Cammy happens to be a Special Forces soldier so her having a butt floss leotard doesn't make much sense. It's fanservice through and through.
 

Thronazuug

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There are women in real life who enjoy showing off their hard work on their asses. Perhaps Cammy is one. Not every sexualized person in games should be unsexualized. These people exist and should also be represented in games and other media.
With how the world has sexism problem, your priorities are .... oh *avatar quote*
Edit: Cammy is not a real person with choices. Her character depiction by her designers and her costume doesnt make sense.
 

Gutsfree

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There are women in real life who enjoy showing off their hard work on their asses. Perhaps Cammy is one. Not every sexualized person in games should be unsexualized. These people exist and should also be represented in games and other media.
This might be a real point if sexualization wasn't such a prevalent issue in games. Also, every female character in SFV has plenty of skimpy extra costumes on top of this default.
 

THErest

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sexual harassment is as much a culture based on how women are treated, and games constantly depicting them in scandalous and unrealistic outfits (often and especially compared to men) is indeed because it's rooted in ideas of how women are seen as hyper-sexualized. Telling me Cammy's stereotype is reduced to her costume showing ass isn't helping your argument.

But do tell ME how a green onesie is empowering for her character. >:/
How odd. People have posted great cammy pants art... and Chun Li dabbled in it too
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Capcom is made of talented artists. The ball is in their court and they've done fantastic work for its ladies before. Not sure why "tradition" = CAMMY ASS IS A MUST

That Chun costume is amazing and all, but you realize you just posted a depiction in which Chun is virtually, from the waist down, naked and painted blue, right?


keep the butt but still give her pants

we live in an assless chaps future

The future is now.
cammy_fiona_belli_easter_egg.jpg
 

Ciao

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Jun 14, 2018
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"SJW wants to CENSOR iconic design! They're taking video game 25 years old HISTORY and CULTURE from US REAL GAMERS"
 

Amnixia

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Jan 25, 2018
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They should. But they won't.

Too many people will complain about "censorship".
 

Biggersmaller

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Oct 27, 2017
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Minneapolis
Overall I find her design aesthetic very intimidating and high energy. Sexualizing her ass is all part of that. If it helps to put Ryu and Zangief in a thong to even things out - I'm all for that. It's all in good fun after all.
 

stersauce

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Oct 28, 2017
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keep the bodysuit outfit but add pants, which is actually a fashionable look right now

that way you don't have to change the pose
 

Mugy

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Oct 28, 2017
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This reminds me of that time Marvel gave She-hulk pants while maintaining the same outfit. Don't give her pants as her main outfit, she looks great as it is
 

Omnistalgic

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Not sure why Cammy is singled out but Yes to all of it! Playing against R.Mika in front of my family was almost embarrassing. I think Soul Caliber is the only worse offender...

Either way, it's obnoxious and annoying. At least give us a choice and let us set up character outfits just like we can choose English/Japanese VO.
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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Cammy's outfit was ridiculous when they introduced it in Super Street Fighter II.
It's also part of the reason I fell out of SFII back in the day too.
If you have to rely on cheap sexy outfits to sell your game it's not really worth my time.
Also the big reason why I wasn't bothered when they sent Dead or Alive to Xbox exclusivity too.
 

Bane

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wish they would but after the disappointing amount of fan service in 5 I'm not counting on it.
 

Amnixia

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They don't even know what the word means if they call that censorship.

I know

There's plenty of times some weebs complained because some outfits got changed (like in tms)

Then there was the quartering raging about how he couldn't jerk off to Shera

People whining about the awesome and more realistic clothes in the last MK game

Etc
 

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They should but i would guess they won't.Got to keep those long time fans satisfied. At least give her some pants or stop with the ass shots, it's weird and out of character.
 

DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should, but they won't. Too much $$$ from horny nerds.

Also, to everyone in here saying it'd be sacrilege to change Cammy's outfit: get out of here with that shit. Most fighting game characters change shit all the time. Don't act like you didn't think it was sick when Chun showed up in a new outfit in Alpha. And also, that excuse doesn't work for camera angles. Even if they kept her outfit they could still have the decency to not zoom in on her ass crack like in SFV.
 

rhandino

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should but they wont because they are cowards and they want those horny coins~

Like... Bearded Ryu could have been a fantastic redesign for such an iconic character but instead we keep seeing him in slightly different textures and fabrics.
 

TheGhost

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should, but they won't. Too much $$$ from horny nerds.

Also, to everyone in here saying it'd be sacrilege to change Cammy's outfit: get out of here with that shit. Most fighting game characters change shit all the time. Don't act like you didn't think it was sick when Chun showed up in a new outfit in Alpha. And also, that excuse doesn't work for camera angles. Even if they kept her outfit they could still have the decency to not zoom in on her ass crack like in SFV.
When i was 18 I hated chun Li's new outfit.

But yeah cammy is a "fan favorite" because of that pose so i doubt they will get rid of it.

the pose should never have left sf2