So an Overwatch Nintendo Switch Case just got revealed... [Update: Port likely happening]

[Deleted member 32018]

Guys Justin Wong is arguing in bad faith, that much should be obvious.

He's disregarding all positive achievements and doubles down on all negative things.

It's no use to discuss that matter with him.

Click to shrink...

Yep. He did exactly the same with the Witcher 3 rumour thread a while back.

Also those concerned about online. As far as I'm aware Overwatch runs on Blizzard's dedicated servers. Most of the issues I've seen with online games on the Switch have had a p2p connection so this shouldn't be an issue with Overwatch.

 

[Justin Wong]

Fact that you comparing performance of PC component to console is very wrong.
every console game have extra optimisation compared to PC, they are currently optimisation game for Switch hardware specifically.
I am pretty sure that you are one of people that were saying that Witcher 3 cant run on Switch.



I am willing to bet that game will be 60 FPS on Switch also.
[/

Fact that you comparing performance of PC component to console is very wrong.
every console game have extra optimisation compared to PC, they are currently optimisation game for Switch hardware specifically.
I am pretty sure that you are one of people that were saying that Witcher 3 cant run on Switch.



I am willing to bet that game will be 60 FPS on Switch also.

Click to shrink...

I use it almost as some kind of benchmark. I don't think there has been a situation where the win 2 has lost to the switch in a game other than crash

Click to shrink...

 

[ILikeFeet]

Honestly, the best part about people arguing in bad faith is that when Overwatch reveals itself, they mysteriously disappear or move the goal posts 2 miles down the road

 

[Bonejack]

Honestly, the best part about people arguing in bad faith is that when Overwatch reveals itself, they mysteriously disappear or move the goal posts 2 miles down the road

Click to shrink...

You know what i'd like? Another of those situations that happened when the Ori port was announced, people come in thread, declaring performance shit. Then a few posts later, dev comes in and says performance fine. ^^

 

[Jahranimo]

You know what i'd like? Another of those situations that happened when the Ori port was announced, people come in thread, declaring performance shit. Then a few posts later, dev comes in and says performance fine. ^^

Click to shrink...

I...still don't know how those people came to that conclusion in the first place O_o

 

[Oregano]

Honestly, the best part about people arguing in bad faith is that when Overwatch reveals itself, they mysteriously disappear or move the goal posts 2 miles down the road

Click to shrink...

Overwatch isn't that demanding anyway. It's just an arena shooter.

 

[Aleh]

You know what i'd like? Another of those situations that happened when the Ori port was announced, people come in thread, declaring performance shit. Then a few posts later, dev comes in and says performance fine. ^^

Click to shrink...

And then they tried to argue it didn't have HDR or 4k support so they were right lol

 

[ShinobiBk]

I...still don't know how those people came to that conclusion in the first place O_o

Click to shrink...

Tbf, the original Indie World video was running at 30fps and dropping frames everywhere. Was a problem with the whole video though, not just that trailer.

 

[Felaipes]

overwatch @30 fps...no thanks

 

[K Samedi]

Glad its getting ported. I remember both Overwatch and Rocket league being requested the most by Switch fans in 2017. Finally both games will be available on the system. It will probably be a hit game on Switch. Never played it myself but I'll be getting Witcher in October and take my time with it.

 

[Mendrox]

game will run on Switch, but I would be very surprised if it's 60fps

 

[dogbox]

I'd be really interested to see this! Blizzard & Iron Galaxy did an awesome job with Diablo III, hopefully Overwatch would get some similar care. I would love a shooter to pick up on the Switch now that Splatoon 2 has wound down.

 

[8byte]

game will run on Switch, but I would be very surprised if it's 60fps

Click to shrink...

lol, it will 100% be 60fps.

Prepare for some major downgrades.

 

[8byte]

The Switch is weaker than an Intel hd 620 in handheld mode and that can't run it at 544p 60 fps let alone the switch. It runs at the same level as the switch on the witcher 3 when you use a mod so it isn't even a miracle

Click to shrink...

Oh boy...this is probably the worst take i've seen in a switch thread about ports.

You do realize that closed environments
like consoles are not at all like PCs, right? It's not a pound for pound comparison.

 

[Mendrox]

lol, it will 100% be 60fps.

Prepare for some major downgrades.

Click to shrink...

I don't know what is "LOL" about my post to be honest. Game is being ported regardless and if they get it to 60fps they will have done a lot of work (and worked some magic).

 

[Empyrean Cocytus]

So it's gotta be asked: What are the chances of this leading to crossplay? With the Switch being a second console or dedicated handheld for a lot of people and the Switch Lite due to release which will likely put even more of them in the wild, people are probably going to want to play with their friends on other systems. PUBG and Fortnite have accounted for this, but Overwatch has still been dragging their feet, probably because the PC community is much bigger than Xbox or PS4.

 

[Mendrox]

So it's gotta be asked: What are the chances of this leading to crossplay? With the Switch being a second console or dedicated handheld for a lot of people and the Switch Lite due to release which will likely put even more of them in the wild, people are probably going to want to play with their friends on other systems. PUBG and Fortnite have accounted for this, but Overwatch has still been dragging their feet, probably because the PC community is much bigger than Xbox or PS4.

Click to shrink...

0%

Blizzard needs the loot boxes and need you to restart every single time you play Overwatch on another device. $$$$$

 

[Civilstrife]

overwatch @30 fps...no thanks

Click to shrink...

Switch runs Paladins at 60fps. It can run Overwatch at 60fps.

 

[Bonejack]

And then they tried to argue it didn't have HDR or 4k support so they were right lol

Click to shrink...

Doesn't Ori even lack HDR on XBox? Honest question, i can't remember. ^^

I fully expect Blizz or the porting devs to make either cuts in resolution trying to aim for 60fps, or going for locked 30fps for a higher visual quality. I wonder what arguments either of those spawn, if it really gets ported.

Tbf, the original Indie World video was running at 30fps and dropping frames everywhere. Was a problem with the whole video though, not just that trailer.

Click to shrink...

I think this is and has been a problem with Nintendo's trailers and streams for a few years now already. At this point, people on an enthusiast forum should be able to keep that in mind and wait for direct feed material where Nintendo's people didn't tinker around.

Remember the first images of Xenoblade 1? It's almost like Nintendo's PR activley try to use the least favorable stuff. ^^

 

[SiG]

overwatch @30 fps...no thanks

Click to shrink...

And here come the haters...

 

[Simba1]

I don't know what is "LOL" about my post to be honest. Game is being ported regardless and if they get it to 60fps they will have done a lot of work (and worked some magic).

Click to shrink...

Why magic? Game is not that demanding, it runs 1080p/60fps even on base XB1.
I think we can expect 720p/60 fps on Switch in docked mode and 540p/60 fps in portable mode.

 

[SiG]

Wow, why is everyone HATING on a Switch version all of a sudden?

 

[Justin Wong]

Oh boy...this is probably the worst take i've seen in a switch thread about ports.

You do realize that closed environments
like consoles are not at all like PCs, right? It's not a pound for pound comparison.

Click to shrink...

If it beats the switch in almost every game games and can't run overwatch at 60 fps without insanely low res then the switch probably can't either

 

[Justin Wong]

Wow, why is everyone HATING on a Switch version all of a sudden?

Click to shrink...

Not really hating. Just don't expect it to be 60 fps

 

[SiG]

Not really hating. Just don't expect it to be 60 fps

Click to shrink...

Do we even have confirmation? Diablo III managed to get 60fps with 900p, so I would expect about the same range of performance for a game like Overwatch (if Iron Galaxy is once again handling their port).

I'd say from your other post, you'd be too pessimistic over Switch port quality.

 

[Neoxon]

I'd say it is more reasonable to expect 30 fps than anything else

Click to shrink...

I highly doubt Blizzard would've bothered porting the game if they couldn't get Overwatch running at 60fps on the Switch.

 

[Bonejack]

In the end, 60fps is pretty much a requirement if they're also aiming for cross-play in the long run. Though in this case i'd rather have cross-progression.

 

[Justin Wong]

Do we even have confirmation? Diablo III managed to get 60fps with 900p, so I would expect about the same range of performance for a game like Overwatch (if Iron Galaxy is once again handling their port).

I'd say from your other post, you'd be too pessimistic over Switch port quality.

Click to shrink...

What worries me is the requirements difference between the 2 games. I would rather have a stable 30 then for it to fluctuate

 

[Comic Obsessed]

Wow, why is everyone HATING on a Switch version all of a sudden?

Click to shrink...

"All of sudden"?

This always happens.

 

[Deleted member 2474]

overwatch is a really easy game to run at 60fps, even easier if they put in the work to downgrade some assets and effects. it's not like it has particularly massive maps or lots of characters or anything. it's really not unrealistic at all.

 

[SiG]

What worries me is the requirements difference between the 2 games. I would rather have a stable 30 then for it to fluctuate

Click to shrink...

It comes down to frame pacing and draw calls of their graphics renderer.

I know Panic Button games tend to exhibit some of these problems, but with my limited time on Iron Galaxy's ports, they tend to run much smoother. It's clear a lot of devs need to do a lot of under-the-hood optimizations.

(I'm not sure if PB is still in charge of Warframe updates but the recent ones have made the game run considerably smoother with narry a hitch)

"All of sudden"?

This always happens.

Click to shrink...

And people call me deranged...

 

[Deleted member 32018]

On PC, my frame rate tanks more in D3 at endgame than in Overwatch.

 

[Skittzo]

If it beats the switch in almost every game games and can't run overwatch at 60 fps without insanely low res then the switch probably can't either

Click to shrink...

... but does it?

 

[Tom Nook]

If OW on Switch is true, I want this crossover.

 

[Deleted member 32018]

... but does it?

Click to shrink...

Even Diablo 3 runs worse on a GPD Win 2. It constantly goes into the 40's (with drops even into the 30's) with not much happening on screen early game.

 

[blue_phazon]

You can run OW at 60 on a potato.

Don't know how anyone would think it's impossible on switch

 

[Skittzo]

Even Diablo 3 runs worse on a GPD Win 2. It constantly goes into the 40's (with drops even into the 30's) with not much happening on screen early game.

Click to shrink...

Not to mention The Witcher 3, which I believe that user has claimed before could not run on the Switch as well as it does on the GPD Win 2.

Basically, almost every port we have seen to Switch runs and looks better on Switch than it does on the GPD Win 2. There might be a few exceptions but generally the Switch is stronger in real world use, even if it's not on paper.

 

[8byte]

If it beats the switch in almost every game games and can't run overwatch at 60 fps without insanely low res then the switch probably can't either

Click to shrink...

Bad faith is so easy to see through...

I presume you didn't consider that the studio would be able to adjust poly count of objects & player models, fine tune textures, change lighting solutions, and adjust things like resolution, alpha effects, or any other number of variables to improve performance and resolution.

I *assume* you don't really have a solid idea as to what you're talking about.

 

[Bonejack]

Basically, almost every port we have seen to Switch runs and looks better on Switch than it does on the GPD Win 2. There might be a few exceptions but generally the Switch is stronger in real world use, even if it's not on paper.

Click to shrink...

Some people on here certainly need a read-up about OS overhead and development for fixed hardware and optimized small-footprint OS. ^^

 

[8byte]

Some people on here certainly need a read-up about OS overhead and development for fixed hardware and optimized small-footprint OS. ^^

Click to shrink...

If they did that, how would they shit up threads with baseless predictions on performance?

 

[Aleh]

If they did that, how would they shit up threads with baseless predictions on performance?

Click to shrink...

The same way they're doing it now, in bad faith

 

[Defuser]

If a GPD Win 2 can run Overwatch with no problem then Switch can run it even better. The Overwatch engine scaling is superb, how can people be this delusional.

 

[Tregard]

If OW on Switch is true, I want this crossover.

Click to shrink...

I actually think we're due a "Splatoon" mechanically-styled character soon, maybe the next character for OW. It's one of the few remaining existing shooter mechanics they haven't used yet.

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

So it's gotta be asked: What are the chances of this leading to crossplay? With the Switch being a second console or dedicated handheld for a lot of people and the Switch Lite due to release which will likely put even more of them in the wild, people are probably going to want to play with their friends on other systems. PUBG and Fortnite have accounted for this, but Overwatch has still been dragging their feet, probably because the PC community is much bigger than Xbox or PS4.

Click to shrink...

You can see my speculation about it on the previous page, but I think the two most concrete things to consider is that, like you mentioned, PUBG just announced console cross-play, and Jeff Kaplan's words on it from last Blizzcon that cross-play is something Blizzard discusses with the console manufacturers. Nothing vague about PUBG unlike some unreleased AAA games just gesturing towards some form of cross-play, it's explicitly PS4/Xbox; the Sony Cross-Play Beta might finally be having results for players with devs outside of Epic Games' privileged bubble.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-03-the-big-overwatch-blizzcon-interview-with-jeff-kaplan

Are you working on enabling PS4-Xbox One cross-play in light of Sony loosening up?

Jeff Kaplan: We're super-excited about what's going on with cross-play in all sorts of different games, from Rocket League to Fortnite, and we are constantly in discussions with the first-parties, Microsoft and Sony, to see where they're at and gauge where their temperature is at. It's something that would be very exciting for us to pursue.

Is it something you are pursuing?

Jeff Kaplan: We are definitely having conversations that we're interested in the thought of it.

It's very complicated - from a technology standpoint, a game design standpoint, and from a business relationship standpoint. But we would be excited to tackle all of those challenges; we would love to try. We're gamers; "Why can't my buddies on this system or that system play together?" We sympathise with that, we want to be able to do that too.

Talking of technical complications: have you explored putting Overwatch on Switch (Diablo launched on Switch today)? Could it work?

Jeff Kaplan: Our philosophy has always been we want as many players playing Overwatch as possible, and we want to reach as many possible Overwatch players as are out there. We will always explore a platform if we think we could make it viable - both the technology and the business relationship. We would love to do it.

We don't have anything to announce or any plans with Nintendo or Switch at this time, but -

It's a possibility?

Jeff Kaplan: It's something we're very open-minded about.

Click to shrink...

 

[Thorakai]

If cross-progress happens with PS4 this would be the greatest gaming announcement for me. Its been a long time since I've stuck to a game for as long as I have Overwatch and portable play will bring that to the next level. Nintendo-exclusive costumes would be awesome too.

 

[cmChimera]

My only issue with this is that you still need to be online to play, so I lose a lot of that portability aspect. But glad to see it come to Switch regardless.

 

[Komo]

I...still don't know how those people came to that conclusion in the first place O_o

Click to shrink...

Pretty easy. They never actually owned the game and those were false statements

 

[Empyrean Cocytus]

Yooo that game was my first credit as concept artist. Such a bad game but hey, got to design the main character so theres that.

Click to shrink...

Holy crap I remember that game!

Also yeaaah, pretty bad. But the art design was cool.

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

0%

Blizzard needs the loot boxes and need you to restart every single time you play Overwatch on another device. $$$$$

Click to shrink...

Jokes aside, I wonder what Blizzard's feelings are on cross-progression nowadays internally. I'm sure around launch there were enthusiastic double/triple dips on the game and fans maintaining multiple OW accounts, but I assume getting some (possibly lapsed) players to start over on Switch 3+ years later when they already invested time on other platforms seems like a nonstarter.

Ideally for me, a cross-progression OW would go F2P, and I could just play it on all platforms without rebuying it, Blizzard distributing some founders perks to past players who bought at copy of OW, with the game adopting more modern MTX over loot boxes. But I don't believe there are any signs pointing towards that.

 

[Aleh]

Jokes aside, I wonder what Blizzard's feelings are on cross-progression nowadays internally. I'm sure around launch there were enthusiastic double/triple dips on the game and fans maintaining multiple OW accounts, but I assume getting some (possibly lapsed) players to start over on Switch 3+ years later when they already invested time on other platforms seems like a nonstarter.

Ideally for me, a cross-progression OW would go F2P, and I could just play it on all platforms without rebuying it, Blizzard distributing some founders perks to past players who bought at copy of OW, with the game adopting more modern MTX over loot boxes. But I don't believe there are any signs pointing towards that.

Click to shrink...

That would be the dream 😭
I don't wanna buy OW for the 100th time (gifted it to some friends) and after so many years going F2P would be smart especially since they are gonna launch a PvE expansion