So i just learned Rinoa is Ultimecia
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The theory is she's using time compression to create a singularity, a point where she can destroy the fixtures in time that always lead to that bad timeline, but she's going too far. Edea still gets her power, Ultimecia dies and the loop continues, but Squall being alive suggests something may have changed, and the fixtures in time may have challenged.
Nope. From what I remember during the secret ending in KH4 its Sora and Shions kid after the MCU world. Paradox happened when they went back in time to correct the thanos snap
It would be better if both characters were just fleshed out more instead of being the same person. Ultimecia is a pretty shit villain. Rinoa is a pretty flat heroine. This theory doesn't do much for me.
If the whole point of this purely theoretical plot is to prevent Squall from dying, then why is she trying so damn hard to kill him?
If Squall being alive is the point of divergence, then why is she still trying even after he's shown to be fine?
Just theories.. would have made an excellent story twist if it was officially made in the game. but again nothing but die hard fans theories.
Then who she is and her motives don't actually matter and she's just a generic doomsday villain trying to end the world for no reason at all.
Like the whole theory is only interesting because of the connection to the main cast but if she doesn't remember any of it then that connection doesn't exist anymore.
I mean the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory relies on the amnesiac orphanage plot.
Shit would have to be rewritten completely honestly. I think Rinoa being future Ultimecia is an interesting concept but it would have to be presented properly (heroine destined to become the villain), whole orphanage plot would have to be dropped.
FF8 has my favourite FF world and music but I really dislike the story.
I said that already, Ultimecia had evil wings and doesn't look entirely human, like Adel who was a hulk, being a sorceress is a transformative process and presumably can corrupt and empower the body. Ultimecia is attacking her friends but she is not totally in control of the corruption, she's mutated and her two natures are battling themselves out. Time compression may be her way to break out, and reconnect with her friends in her own dark way. That was my interpretation.
I played it, I think that's a bit rude. It's not very clear at all what she's after, she's so cryptic. That's not just my interpretation of Ultimecia being Rinoa, it's not just that she can't get over her boyfriend.. but Squall surviving is one of the fixtures, that may suggest things can change. It seems to be a stable loop that the sorceress must pass on their powers, and the war between Utlimecia must happen, but now a new variable has entered the overall equation and one variable can lead to all sort of other variables, and ways to prevent the war. I think it is cooler because the antagonist is more personal and the ending had a new dimension.
I mean you can dismiss it as bad fiction, but I think there's so much mystery in the ending, it should encourage people to imprint their own narrative, and what may have been going on during the window of time compression. Like Necron being up to interpretation, I don't think it's necessarily bad to suggest one character had another purpose, another identity.
I never played this game so all I have to contribute is the following question: Is Rinoa pronounced like quinoa or like the way you would pronounce quinoa if you were sounding it out phonetically?
No, and you're evil for even coming up with this. Imagining someone saying it that way though...
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That theory has been debunked by Kitase himself.
Is Squall Really Dead? Final Fantasy Producer Addresses The Series' Biggest Fan Theories
Was Aeris ever going to come back to life? Are Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy VII set in the same world? Is Gogo actually Daryl? Thanks to Yoshinori Kitase, we now have the answers to all of these questions. And they’re mostly “No.”kotaku.com
lmfaoooo he really didn't like this theory.
it's hilarious that people in this very thread are defending the theory when it's absolutely been debunked by Square themselves.
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well, know that you can never say that you live a happy life until you do
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I actually just had to go to the wiki to actually understand what is going on with gunblades.
They are pretty cool tbh
When you realize that, even though she fell to hatred and madness and lost her memories, some small part of her subconscious may have done it all just to see her friends again... to see him one last time... even if it meant sinking to the darkest depths... ;_;
Just realised that when I replayed the game like two months ago. Blew my mind.
In Dissidia Opera Omnia, you cannot have Dark Knight Cecil and Paladin Cecil in the same party because they're the same guy. You also cannot have (XIV spoiler) Yda and Lyse in the same party, for the same reason.
You can have Rinoa and Ultimecia.
QED.
You can have Rinoa and Ultimecia.
QED.
It's not a painting etc, it's a defined story. You ever read a book and just change the ending cause you didn't agree with it?
If its part of the text the author has no say over it anymore to just change it by decree outside of the text. Unless they left literally zero ambiguity there will always be soom room for interpretation. Most decent stories leave things open ended enough for reasonable differences in interpretation.
It's a pretty dumb theory but then again ff8 has an extremely dumb plot so it's not impossible.