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What tendency/ideology do you best align with?

  • Anarchism

    Votes: 125 12.0%
  • Marxism

    Votes: 86 8.2%
  • Marxism-Leninism

    Votes: 79 7.6%
  • Left Communism

    Votes: 19 1.8%
  • Democratic Socialism

    Votes: 423 40.6%
  • Social Democracy

    Votes: 238 22.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 73 7.0%

  • Total voters
    1,043

Sibylus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,728
Brain: These quizzes are stupid
Also Brain: I love them!

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samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
I remember the 8 values thread. Had to spend some time explaining what libertarian means in this context.

Also libsoc.
 

Xiaomi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,237
That 8values quiz needs an "Agree, but not for the reasons you're implying" answer choice for some of those.
 

TheLucasLite

Member
Aug 27, 2018
1,446
Leftist Youtube is Succdem Youtube, actually. I watch plenty of the videos in that Era thread, and while most are critical of capitalism, there isn't much advocating for actual socialism, anarchism, or communism.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,826
Paid-up IWW member, iirc
I know nothing about the IWW except they're pretty old. What's their deal? How effective are they at what they do?

I'd like to see more content by guys like donoteat. That is, from people working in stuff like civil engineering, agriculture, or energy instead of philosophy and media. I don't mean to knock leftists who work in those fields, but I hear their perspective a lot. I don't wanna hear about Ben Shapiro any more. I want to hear about building and maintaining communities from a non-market viewpoint.

join the loving embrace of social democracy
Eh, I've never been against voting socdem-style policy. The state is often too hard to smash for my delicate hands.
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver


The Progressive Think Tank/USSR alliance against Marxist twitter.

I can see how a certain level of alienation can work to fight against discrimination, but it's still troubling when that same alienation can make it that much easier to detach the morality of your actions from the pursuit of profit.

But honestly I don't get the whole seniority thing in the first place. I might be missing something.

Edit: Guess Matt Bruenig deleted it and I forgot to copy over the tweet text. It was basically him calling the left ignorant of labor because every union uses software that determines who gets fired first in cutbacks, and Soviet Russia had a similar practice.
 
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
There needs to be a political axis quiz specific to socialist factions.

Christ, I'd love that. Maybe include a bunch of anarchisms on there too. The closest thing I'm aware of is the Political Sextant, which comes as close as it does simply by having radical ideologies of every stripe vastly outnumber major centrist ideologies. It's got multiple flavors of socialism, anarchism, and fascism on tap, to the point of ridiculousness. One of the possible outcomes is Strasserism, which I guess is fair when you've got a grand total of sixty ideologies represented. It goes in balls deep. My results were 100% classical Marxism, 100% anarcha-feminism, and 100% Marxist feminism. I wish it let me see my percentage on other ideologies, but I guess that's acceptable.
 
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sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
Christ, I'd love that. Maybe include a bunch of anarchisms on there too. The closest thing I'm aware of is the Political Sextant, which comes as close as it does simply by having radical ideologies of every stripe vastly outnumber major centrist ideologies. It's got multiple flavors of socialism, anarchism, and fascism on tap, to the point of ridiculousness. One of the possible outcomes is Strasserism, which I guess is fair when you've got a grand total of sixty ideologies represented. It goes in balls deep. My results were 100% classical Marxism, 100% anarcha-feminism, and 100% Marxist feminism. I wish it let me see my percentage on other ideologies, but I guess that's acceptable.

Somehow I got both 100% Classical Marxism and 100% Fourierism.
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
Won't lie, I was pretty enamored with Charles Fourier's prophetic vision of Iron Chef back when I was a teen.
 

Xiaomi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,237
Political Sextant gave me 90% Insurrectionary Anarchism, 93% Communalism, 92% Neozapatismo. Two of which I have never really heard of. Huh. Thanks Deffers.
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
Moar quizzes:
Anarcho-communism 93%
Anarcho-syndicalism 92%
Green syndicalism 92%
Fourierism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -93%
Paleoconservatism -100% (lol wtf is this)

I don't really think of myself as an anarchist though, just very strongly opinionated.
 
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sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
Moar quizzes:
Anarcho-communism 93%
Anarcho-syndicalism 92%
Green syndicalism 92%
Fourierism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -93%
Paleoconservatism -100% (lol wtf is this)

I don't really think of myself as an anarchist though, just very strongly opinionated.

Paleocon is Pat Buchanan.
 

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Political Sextant gave me 90% Insurrectionary Anarchism, 93% Communalism, 92% Noezapatismo. Two of which I have never really heard of. Huh. Thanks Deffers.

Not a problem! I'm gonna guess Insurrectionary Anarchism and Neozapatismo are the two you haven't heard of?

I could have sworn we had some good resources on insurrectionary anarchism posted in the thread but that doesn't look to have been the case, which now just makes me confused as to how I confabulated that. Aaaanyways, Anarchist Library has some useful stuff about insurrectionary anarchism and I tend to think of it as a good source of inspiration, though I'm sure I'm as bad at being an insurrectionary anarchist as I am at being a socialist. Some Notes on Insurrectionary Anarchism, Armed Joy, and this one are pretty good primers, I THINK?

Haven't heard much about Neozapatismo either, I must confess.
 

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Ummmmmm. What the fuck is going on in here ?
Playing around with the only political quiz that has multiple categories for socialists, memeing about nuCOINTELPRO, and handing out literature based on said political quiz results. Which mostly devolves into me evangelizing about anarchism having good ideas again. Having lots of fun, basically.
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
What really confused me is that I would honestly label myself a statist and I gave a "slightly agree" answer to:

State involvement is needed to protect citizens' interests

With disagrees for:

State regulation of markets should be minimised
Government should only be involved in the administration of vital services like the police and fire services


So this is what being a sekirtsucc/statist is, right? Like I broadly think government is useful, I just want to decentralize it. I don't know how people got Marxism and why I didn't get it...
 
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sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
What really confused me is that I would honestly label myself a statist and I gave a "slightly agree" answer to:

State involvement is needed to protect citizens' interests

With disagrees for:

State regulation of markets should be minimised
Government should only be involved in the administration of vital services like the police and fire services


So this is what being a sekirtsucc/statist is, right? Like I broadly think government is useful, I just want to decentralize it. I don't know how people got Marxism and why I didn't get it...

I wonder if it has to do with the money question. I put Neutral (or No Opinion or whatever it was) instead of agreeing/disagreeing that wages should be based on value rather than hours worked because...the point is to do away with wages. LTV doesn't describe how wages "should" be distributed, it describes how they ARE distributed.