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Enjoy. I liked the movie on my first viewing but absolutely loved it the second time.
I believe Rogue One would have made less, but still been profitable; I believe that Solo would have made more, but not significantly.
Put another way: Disney would have lost money in that scenario as compared to this one.
But are you suggesting that "lets steal those Death Star plans" was significantly more exciting than what Solo was selling?
That said, Rogue One had Vader, so that's a significant boost in its favor for the casual fans, but I don't know how much his presence was advertised in the trailers.
Yeah, mainly because we didn't know *what* Solo was selling.
No one really knew the movie was about stealing fuel until they went in, which is not really exciting in itself- and not knowing the plot of a movie is also not really exciting (see the opposite: Blade Runner 2049, which no one really knew what it was about going in, but turned out awesome, but had similar results to Solo- not a very high turnout).
When you watch it the second time, the script, direction, and acting really really pop. There's very few wasted moments. It's a very efficient film. Comparatively, I can think of spots from other new films that I think rather negatively on:
1. Tentacle wars in TFA, Takodana needed some tweaking too.
2. Canto Bight for obvious reasons in TLJ.
3. Saw Gerrera base in Rogue One.
The closest thing that approaches those for me in Solo might be the Han and Chewie masking themselves as slaves bit, but it doesn't really approach those others for me and is a bit of a nitpick.
Rogue was also the first ever non-trilogy Star Wars movie AND was riding off the high of Force Awakens, so it had a lot going for it box office-wise. On the flip side, Solo had pretty much the exact opposite: ill-will from a chunk of fans for TLJ, Memorial Day weekend, Avengers/Deadpool still in play, and a general feeling of unnecessariness from fans.
That's a really good point. The marketing seemed to needlessly hide the general direction of the film beyond " Han's gonna grow in this somehow."
You are correct - my bad. His reveal just wasn't in the context of the final scene...
I was so sick of that line by the time the film came out haha.
Yeah, I'm glad they didn't even hint at that. I was hoping Vader would get an action scene but it was a good surprise.
I feel the advertising for Solo was very low key in comparison to what you'd normally expect.
I also think it would have done much better had they waited to release it in December.
I also think it would have done much better had they waited to release it in December.
The assumption since TFA was that they really wanted May releases, but that hasn't panned out. Other than a six-month window for Christmas toy sales, I'm not sure what their logic is leaning on May so hard.
Especially on the heels of Disney's own IW, which was going to (probably) be the biggest film of the year.
Why not just own the Holiday season? The previous three films absolutely killed it at the box office in December.
This time you'll make the Kessel Run in LESS than 12 parsecs!
I just got back from seeing it. Didn't buy into the doom and gloom before, it was really fucking good. Helps that it's a cohesive movie the entire time as compared to rogue one(which I still enjoyed) where the first and second halves are basically two different movies with the same actors.
Not only was the acting good, the cinematography was great (the galaxy is no longer just white people and aliens and lando). The score was good. And all of the EU cohesion, from the bounty hunter name drops, Maul cameo, and extended look at how hyperspace travel looks like in live action. Also, finally you get to see an imperial blockade. As someone who enjoys the universe outside of the films, this was really really good. Everybody who didn't give this a fair shake over the last several months can go kick rocks.
Not only was the acting good, the cinematography was great (the galaxy is no longer just white people and aliens and lando). The score was good. And all of the EU cohesion, from the bounty hunter name drops, Maul cameo, and extended look at how hyperspace travel looks like in live action. Also, finally you get to see an imperial blockade. As someone who enjoys the universe outside of the films, this was really really good. Everybody who didn't give this a fair shake over the last several months can go kick rocks.
I've seen it a second time too and was still greatly entertained. I think the acting was really good. There was no character I didn't like. I also think alden ehreneich performed the iconic han solo manerisms pretty well.
The story between han and his love interest was beautiful.
The story between han and his love interest was beautiful.
But the question arise....Just thought about that Maul reveal again and wondered if it would have been more fitting (and cooler) if it was Cad Bane instead.
.... 'member Cad Bane. You 'member
Audience: who?
But I agree
It's a complicated issue. I enjoyed Ehenreich, but I do think how he came across in marketing had an impact on the box office. He simply did not channel Han in trailers. And despite the film actually being named Solo, I don't think it enjoyed as much leeching from that characters popularity as it might otherwise have. I love the film and have seen it twice, but Ehenreich's Han is not similar really to Fords Han. There's a willful dissonance that allows me to buy them as the same character, but I'd be lying if I said that he wasn't far from the guy that sat down with Luke in Mos Eisley.
Could Ingruber or someone else with a more comparable look/voice have provided for a better film? Hard to say.
Fun movie. Nothing major but it shot the vibe through. Chewie is the man. L3 should have been a lot better instead of one note joke and then death. The end where Han shoots Beckett is badass.
I think people would be better off if they just admitted that they'd rather the role not be recast. I don't think it has anything to do with him not "embodying Han", people just didn't want to see Ford recast. And for what it's worth, Harrison Ford loved the movie. People we're going in expecting to see Harrison Ford, and they got out saying they didn't get Han Solo. To me that's a big disconnect in expectation
Sorry I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times but how is darth maul alive in this? He was killed in TPM when anakin was a kid. There is no way that solo is at least15 years older (deciding very generously solo is 20 in this and anakin 5 in TPM). How?
This movie was quite good btw . Better than rogue one IMO.
This movie was quite good btw . Better than rogue one IMO.
BDS wrote up a great thread explaining what happened to Maul after Episode I.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ma...at-character-in-solo-a-star-wars-story.45127/
Maul didn't actually die in TPM. He used the Dark Side to keep himself alive, and lived as a mindless animal in a literal garbage heap for over a decade, before being found and "saved". Solo is around a good two decades or so after TPM, at which point he had been running major crime syndicates.
i think id find it pretty distracting to watch ingruber do a harrison ford impersonation for 90 minutes.
because i found it pretty distracting when glover managed to slip into a billy dee impersonation every once in a while.
because i found it pretty distracting when glover managed to slip into a billy dee impersonation every once in a while.
I'm pretty sure Anthony Ingruber wouldn't have had anywhere near as good chemistry with Chewbacca as Alden had
I can't remember from the movie where exactly Donald Glover jumped in and out of a Billy Dee impression in particular but I remember him introducing the Millennium Falcon sounded very BDW-like from the trailers.
I can't remember from the movie where exactly Donald Glover jumped in and out of a Billy Dee impression in particular but I remember him introducing the Millennium Falcon sounded very BDW-like from the trailers.
Yup, impressions suck. I loved Donald's take on Lando but that one sentence where he was doing a Billy D impression was not good. It's the only time I didn't see Lando but Donald Glover doing an impression of Billy D Williams doing Lando.
A whole movie of that would've been terrible.
It became a running joke online about how no one wanted to see Solo and that it was going to be terrible. I think that was unique to Solo because of all the production trouble rumours.
Thanks. This really confused me. Is Qi'ra a character in anything else ?
Alden really nailed the subtle mannerisms of Harrison Ford in his performance. One spot that jumped out at me re-watching ANH was when Han introduces himself, watch 3:00 in the first and 0:29 for Alden's. Not only is the voice dead on there but the mannerisms are there too.
No, she's a new character, but it definitely seems like they intend to continue her story. Whether it makes it to the big screen or is resolved in books/comics, who knows.
I mean at the same time Alden is clearly doing his own take on Ford in the movie.
I disagree, he's doing his own take on Han Solo but not Harrison Ford. You can pick up on some of the mannerisms but those are Han Solo's and not Harrison Ford's.
Solo is pretty blatantly set up as a part 1 of 2. Whether part 2 happens (or was effectively meant to be "Solo" followed by "Lando") is an open question.
I actually think Boba is/was planned to pick up on Solo's dangling plot threads. Boba is established to be within Han's sphere of the universe, the bulk of the hooks pertain to crime syndicates which is an obvious connection for Boba, and there's quite a few potential Boba/Maul connections, including both Palpatine and Mandalore.