Just "being from Japan" isn't a strong correlation between the FromSoft devs and the Kirby devs. There could have been many reasons why one group decided to travel and the other didn't.
Yes, I know. I'm not disagreeing with you.
Just "being from Japan" isn't a strong correlation between the FromSoft devs and the Kirby devs. There could have been many reasons why one group decided to travel and the other didn't.
TGA gave the award Kirby won to the fucking CEO of the America branch, rather than the devs of who worked on it. Or even the individuals who produced or directed it.
I only watched because I wanted a Deck & wanted to see more XVI/T8. Treating this award show as anything other than an advertising block, is silly.
You said TGA gave the award to NoA CEO as apposed to the devs. When in reality the devs didn't travel from Japan to accept it. Doesn't mean they aren't gonna get it.
The show has an ongoing history of being problematic and shitty, so you have some goddamn nerve attempting to frame somebody's repeated complaints about it as being in "bad faith." You're not slick.
Geoff Keighley has some questions to answer about venue security.
Yeah, we simply don't know. You are painting Nintendo as not wanting the devs there ("simple as that" as you claim). When we actually have no evidence that's the case. I'm just pointing out that there are other very reasonable possibilities for why they were not there.Who said I was blaming TGA for that?
"Maybe" is doing some pretty heavy lifting here, man.
Yup. I'd wait to see who else would confirm.I'm not saying this isn't true or downplaying it, but the source is one person on Twitter. The second tweet in the OP is using the first tweet as a source.
I'm going to argue removing pins was more for optics than any actual threat mitigation.
This Geoff conspiracy goes deep, follow the money."Conspiracy" implies that there's something going on behind the scenes. This isn't that complex.
If Nintendo wanted someone from the dev team there, they would be. They didn't. Simple as that.
Thar seems like an issue with either Nintendo or just the devs were unable to be there, not malice on the part of The Game Awards.
TGA gave the award Kirby won to the fucking CEO of the America branch, rather than the devs of who worked on it. Or even the individuals who produced or directed it.
I was pointing out the optics, which fits the context of a thread about a dev being forced to remove a pro-union pin at an award show that's *supposed* to be celebrating the accomplishments of the talent who designed these games.You said TGA gave the award to NoA CEO as apposed to the devs. When in reality the devs didn't travel from Japan to accept it. Doesn't mean they aren't gonna get it.
Your post in context to this thread makes it seem like it's TGA fault for this.
But if you noticed everyone that had responded to your original post thought the same as me.I was pointing out the optics, which fits the context of a thread about a dev being forced to remove a pro-union pin at an award show that's *supposed* to be celebrating the accomplishments of the talent who designed these games.
And the optics are mostly on Nintendo, because as I said, if Nintendo wanted the devs to be there, they would be. But after how the show ended, TGA certainly doesn't look good here either.
What's this about giving a platform to racists? You mean the kid at the end?
Folks really need to stop taking a single tweet as the entire situation. Factor it in, sure, but things get so quickly overblown and hyper aggressive when a single experience is made representative of the whole.
Nintendo of America president always accepts the awards. Blame Nintendo for not making sure the devs are there. That's not the fault of the TGAs.TGA gave the award Kirby won to the fucking CEO of the America branch, rather than the devs of who worked on it. Or even the individuals who produced or directed it.
I only watched because I wanted a Deck & wanted to see more XVI/T8. Treating this award show as anything other than an advertising block, is silly.
Geoff posts here right? Is he actually going to respond to anything?
I can absolutely comprehend a scenario in which the Kirby devs did not want to fly all the way to America to receive a best family game award that wasn't even handed out during the show but rattled off on a list for 2 seconds lol.TGA gave the award Kirby won to the fucking CEO of the America branch, rather than the devs of who worked on it. Or even the individuals who produced or directed it.
I only watched because I wanted a Deck & wanted to see more XVI/T8. Treating this award show as anything other than an advertising block, is silly.
IDK how this reflects badly on anyone involved at all. If Nintendo devs don't want to travel across the planet for an awards show in the off chance of winning a minor category where they are competing against themselves...how can you blame them?Nintendo of America president always accepts the awards. Blame Nintendo for not making sure the devs are there. That's not the fault of the TGAs.
I mean it's only Nintendo published games that really have this though. I find it hard to believe a developer from any of those studios that have won recently would've minded sending one of their own.IDK how this reflects badly on anyone involved at all. If Nintendo devs don't want to travel across the planet for an awards show in the off chance of winning a minor category where they are competing against themselves...how can you blame them?
If Nintendo devs don't want to travel across the planet for an awards show in the off chance of winning a minor category where they are competing against themselves...how can you blame them?
This is not time or place for waiting, we need action.I feel like we've gone full blown conspiracy theorist here. I mean, did security call out they couldn't wear it because it was pro union? Or because it was a pin? There were other people allowed in with the pro union pin. There needs to be more facts before everyone jumps on the torches and pitchforks.
Please tell me this is missing a /s. (I think so because your post history, but I'm terrible at interpreting sarcasm)
1 unsourced tweet stating that they had to remove a pro-union pin by request of security when entering. Everyone needs to breath.
1 unsourced tweet stating that they had to remove a pro-union pin by request of security when entering. Everyone needs to breath.
Check this thread.
There isn't a single woman or non-binary person on this list of "eligible twitch drops" channels for The Game Awards
Yup. I was originally going to joke about Geoff inviting Hitler to the TGA next year in this thread, but I thought it might have been too mean and bad taste. Then the show ends with this.www.resetera.com
I've been fuck the game awards and fuck fake ass Geoff keighley for a long time and even if this didn't happen, nothing changes for me
People really focusing all their energy of finding something to be mad about.
being angry is a gamers favorite activity
It was always gross. So many cringe moments like talking about Kevin Conroy's death and then going into old spice. Geoff was more sincere talking about sponsors than he was about anything else.Who the fuck does that benefit? Why Geoff? So much for caring about games and the people behind them. Vapid hype man.
Has Geoff made any statements yet, outside of the silly arrested tweet?
I get it, he's probably waking up today, just laughing while looking at his bank account, but he's absolutely lost credibility due to this 'show'.
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And another quote from somebody with the right perspective here: